Well, He was there in the beginning, meaning, obviously, that He was there before the beginning, and there is no specification regarding how long before Creation He was there, and the silence concerning that can be readily understood that He had no beginning.How does John 1:1 show the Logos to be eternal.
Agree.God has no beginning.
Agree.The beginning that John refers to is the beginning at Genesis 1:1, the beginning of the heavens and the earth.
Not the Father; the last part of John 1:1, says the Logos was God.The Logos was not God there, he was “with” God.
Right; all three Persons of the Godhead were present.God created all things through him. He didn’t create on his own.
The distinction is one of sentence structure only.As to the different uses of the indefinite article in John, there are different forms of the Greek word for God. Theos, Theon, Theou. Check out John 1:6, 1:12, 1:13 and 1:18 in the interlinear at Biblehub.com and you will see that all four do not say Theos like John 1:1. I’m not a Greek scholar, but the grammar varies for them regarding the use of articles.
I know him very well (and his website). No, thanks. :)Tigger 2 could help you with this.
There is no difference in the context here.The issue in Colossians 1:15 as regards eternity is not what rank Jesus had, his preeminence. The translation you use says he is “over” creation. Many translations read he was “of” creation such as American Standard, Amplified, Douay, English Standard, Jerusalem, King James, New American Standard, Revised Standard to mention a few.
As Paul says there, "by (Christ) all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities ~ all things were created through Him and for Him... He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." The necessary understanding in this is that Christ is not included in those all things, else Paul is mistaken and should have said "all things minus Himself," or "all other things," or some like exception. There is no exception; the necessary conclusion is that He Himself had no beginning, and thus existed with the Father from all eternity, and, like the Father, is eternal.If Jesus is “of creation” trinitarians have a problem.
This is Paul's assertion that, as he said in Philippians 2, Christ took the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men, and was then found in human form (while also being in the form of God). So here in Colossians 1, it is very much the same; Paul speaks of Christ being both God (Colossians 1:15-17) and man (Colossians 1:18-20).Interestingly, protokokos is used again 3 verses later at Colossians 1:18 and reads he is “firstborn from the dead.” I can’t find any Bible that reads “over” the dead.
Right, but you misunderstand what it means that Christ is the Son of God. He's also the Son of Man, referring to Himself as such many times over, and this is very much parallel to John 1, Philippians 2, and Colossians 1 (and other like passages). He is both of God and of man.The chief purpose of John’s Gospel is stated by John at 20:17: “But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name.”
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Now, I know you were talking to Rich here, but:
If by "sanctify God's name" you mean "don't set it above every name," then I agree with you.I can’t agree with you that those who fail to sanctify God’s name (are my spiritual brothers)
No one here does that; it is only a false supposition......who support its replacement in His own Word (are my spiritual brothers)
Jesus needs no "elevation"...those who accept and promote elevating Jesus to a trinity (are my spiritual brothers)
He doesn't, but hell is a real place; Jesus was not lying or mistaken......those who believe that Jehovah eternally tortures in fires of hell (are my spiritual brothers)
Well, that's admirable, I guess, but sometimes, David, the "help" is the problem. :)I try to kindly help them but they need to get out of Babylon the Great or they will receive part of her plagues when Jesus comes.
Grace and peace to you.