Nancy and Her Church

[Ronald Nolette]

No - he's a Catholic Bishop.
"Romanist" is your idiotic moniker . . .

YOu say tomato I say tomatoe! Big deal!

 

[Illuminator]

PELOSI IS AT WAR WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Catholic League president Bill Donohue responds to Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s attack on her archbishop:

After House Speaker Nancy Pelosi proved to be insubordinate, continuously rebuffing her bishop, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone, she was told not to present herself for Communion. Now she has gone on MSNBC to say that not only is he wrong, the entire Church is wrong. She said the Church is wrong about abortion, gay and transgender issues, contraception and in vitro fertilization.

There is not a single Church teaching on women, marriage, the family or sexuality that Pelosi accepts, so out of touch is she with the Catholic Church. There are atheists who agree more with the Church on these issues than she does.

To top it off, she has the audacity to say that she is against imposing her views on others.

Yet she tried to force her pro-abortion views down the throats of the Little Sisters of the Poor, mandating that they pay for abortion-inducing drugs in their healthcare plans. She is a strong proponent of the Equality Act and other measures that would impose her radical pro-abortion views on Catholic doctors and hospitals. She would also coerce Catholic doctors to perform immoral surgeries against their will.

Pelosi is at war with the Catholic Church.

Contact her chief of staff: [email protected]

PELOSI IS AT WAR WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

 

[BreadOfLife]

YOu say tomato I say tomatoe! Big deal!

Wrong.
YOU said something stupid - and I corrected you.

"Romanist" is nothing more than a woefully-ignorant and derogatory term.

 

[Illuminator]

Wrong.
YOU said something stupid - and I corrected you.

"Romanist" is nothing more than a woefully-ignorant and derogatory term.

Stupid insults like "Romanist" and "Papist" are automatic with anti-Catholics. They are not even aware they are insulting and stupid. That's why it's not a big deal for them. They regurgitate the garbage consumed on anti-Catholic web sites; they number in the billions. They can't stop doing it and are too proud to be corrected. "RCC" is another inaccurate term used for the sole purpose of annoying Catholics. It's commonly found on the CARM site, owned by a professional liar and bigot: Matt Slick. It's not hard to identify the hateful mentality that is gleaned from so many "Bible-Christian" sites who preach lies and falsehoods and deceive millions of good Christians. Anti-Catholicism is a tradition of men, and it can be addictive. Sadly, it can and does infect politicians. The worst form anti-Catholicism is not out of the Internet, but the American government.

"... Out of all the enemies hostile to the Catholic Church, the government poses the most danger of them all. Particularly, with Joe Biden holding the presidency, the forces of the federal government ushered in many anti-Catholic policies. That this occurred under a self-described “devout Catholic” made this all the more infuriating.

Biden wasted no time attacking teachings at the heart of the Church. On January 20th, his first day in office, Biden issued an executive order allowing males who claim to be female the right to compete with females in high school and college sports. He also approved of them showering together.

On January 22, Biden said he was “committed to codifying Roe v. Wade.”

Then, on January 28, he issued an executive order to rescind the Mexico City Policy, the rule that bars U.S. foreign aid to international non-profit organizations that provide for abortion or abortion counseling. Biden also asked the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to begin the process of rescinding the Trump administration’s Title X family planning rule; among other things, it denies funds to Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills.

On February 14, the White House announced that the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships “will not prefer one faith over another or favor religious over secular organizations.” But the whole point of creating an office of faith-based programs was to prioritize religious social service agencies.

Biden’s decision to appoint Melissa Rogers to head this endeavor was even more telling. He could not have chosen a more seasoned secularist to steer these faith-based entities.

On May 14, our worst fears for the office were confirmed. Rogers met with representatives from six secular organizations. None of them were religion-friendly and some are positively militant in their agenda.

Even on issues where Biden should have found common ground with the Church, he found ways to alienate the bishops. For instance, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) formally opposed the American Rescue Plan Act. Their concern was that there was nothing in the legislation that prohibited funding for abortions.

In an even more serious break with the concerns of the bishops, Biden pushed for action on the Equality Act. The effect of this legislation is to promote the most comprehensive assault on Christianity ever written into law.

The Equality Act has two major goals: it would amend the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include sexual orientation and gender identity to the definition of sex; it would also significantly undermine the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) by allowing gay rights to trump religious rights.

In May, Biden raised more than eyebrows when he omitted any mention of God in his National Day of Prayer proclamation. What he did was unprecedented: No previous president has failed to mention God since this celebration was created in 1952 by a joint resolution of Congress and signed into law by President Harry Truman.

On September 20, the White House issued a statement saying, “The Administration strongly supports House passage of H.R. 3755, the Women’s Health Protection Act of 2021.” But because there is not an abortion that Biden could not justify, the proposed law has nothing to do with women’s health—it is a pro-abortion bill.

This legislation is anything but “women friendly.” It would abolish the requirement that abortion can only be performed by a physician and eliminates health and safety regulations that are specific to abortion facilities. Further, the bill promotes the falsehood that abortion restrictions are racist. Similarly, it promotes the insane notion that men can become pregnant: it has more than two dozen references to “pregnant people”; this is roughly twice as often as they speak of “pregnant women.”

With the alarming pace Biden moved to undermine the teachings of the Church, the Catholic League prepared a report, “President Biden’s Policies: Departures from Catholic Teachings,” that outlines many instances where his decision-making on important moral issues is at variance with established Catholic teachings.

Biden surrounded himself with henchmen who have long track records of hostility to religious liberties. Xavier Becerra was President Biden’s worst nominee for a Cabinet post. The man is a menace to life and liberty and has no business serving in this capacity. The Catholic League found 16 serious flaws with his nomination. While we sent our detailed list of complaints to the Senate, they voted 50-49 to confirm him as Secretary of HHS.

In October, President Biden nominated Joseph Donnelly to be the new U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See. When Donnelly served as a congressman, he was largely pro-life, but when he became a U.S. Senator, he pivoted and joined the pro-abortion camp. There is a reason why Donnelly was co-chair of Catholics for Biden. Like our “devout Catholic” president, he turned rogue..."
CATHOLIC LEAGUE FOR RELIGIOUS AND CIVIL RIGHTS 2021 YEAR IN REVIEW

 

[JohnPaul]

Stupid insults like "Romanist" and "Papist" are automatic with anti-Catholics. They are not even aware they are insulting and stupid. That's why it's not a big deal for them. They regurgitate the garbage consumed on anti-Catholic web sites; they number in the billions. They can't stop doing it and are too proud to be corrected. "RCC" is another inaccurate term used for the sole purpose of annoying Catholics. It's commonly found on the CARM site, owned by a professional liar and bigot: Matt Slick. It's not hard to identify the hateful mentality that is gleaned from so many "Bible-Christian" sites who preach lies and falsehoods and deceive millions of good Christians. Anti-Catholicism is a tradition of men, and it can be addictive. Sadly, it can and does infect politicians. The worst form anti-Catholicism is not out of the Internet, but the American government.

"... Out of all the enemies hostile to the Catholic Church, the government poses the most danger of them all. Particularly, with Joe Biden holding the presidency, the forces of the federal government ushered in many anti-Catholic policies. That this occurred under a self-described “devout Catholic” made this all the more infuriating.

Biden wasted no time attacking teachings at the heart of the Church. On January 20th, his first day in office, Biden issued an executive order allowing males who claim to be female the right to compete with females in high school and college sports. He also approved of them showering together.

On January 22, Biden said he was “committed to codifying Roe v. Wade.”

Then, on January 28, he issued an executive order to rescind the Mexico City Policy, the rule that bars U.S. foreign aid to international non-profit organizations that provide for abortion or abortion counseling. Biden also asked the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to begin the process of rescinding the Trump administration’s Title X family planning rule; among other things, it denies funds to Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills.

On February 14, the White House announced that the Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships “will not prefer one faith over another or favor religious over secular organizations.” But the whole point of creating an office of faith-based programs was to prioritize religious social service agencies.

Biden’s decision to appoint Melissa Rogers to head this endeavor was even more telling. He could not have chosen a more seasoned secularist to steer these faith-based entities.

On May 14, our worst fears for the office were confirmed. Rogers met with representatives from six secular organizations. None of them were religion-friendly and some are positively militant in their agenda.

Even on issues where Biden should have found common ground with the Church, he found ways to alienate the bishops. For instance, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) formally opposed the American Rescue Plan Act. Their concern was that there was nothing in the legislation that prohibited funding for abortions.

In an even more serious break with the concerns of the bishops, Biden pushed for action on the Equality Act. The effect of this legislation is to promote the most comprehensive assault on Christianity ever written into law.

The Equality Act has two major goals: it would amend the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include sexual orientation and gender identity to the definition of sex; it would also significantly undermine the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) by allowing gay rights to trump religious rights.

In May, Biden raised more than eyebrows when he omitted any mention of God in his National Day of Prayer proclamation. What he did was unprecedented: No previous president has failed to mention God since this celebration was created in 1952 by a joint resolution of Congress and signed into law by President Harry Truman.

On September 20, the White House issued a statement saying, “The Administration strongly supports House passage of H.R. 3755, the Women’s Health Protection Act of 2021.” But because there is not an abortion that Biden could not justify, the proposed law has nothing to do with women’s health—it is a pro-abortion bill.

This legislation is anything but “women friendly.” It would abolish the requirement that abortion can only be performed by a physician and eliminates health and safety regulations that are specific to abortion facilities. Further, the bill promotes the falsehood that abortion restrictions are racist. Similarly, it promotes the insane notion that men can become pregnant: it has more than two dozen references to “pregnant people”; this is roughly twice as often as they speak of “pregnant women.”

With the alarming pace Biden moved to undermine the teachings of the Church, the Catholic League prepared a report, “President Biden’s Policies: Departures from Catholic Teachings,” that outlines many instances where his decision-making on important moral issues is at variance with established Catholic teachings.

Biden surrounded himself with henchmen who have long track records of hostility to religious liberties. Xavier Becerra was President Biden’s worst nominee for a Cabinet post. The man is a menace to life and liberty and has no business serving in this capacity. The Catholic League found 16 serious flaws with his nomination. While we sent our detailed list of complaints to the Senate, they voted 50-49 to confirm him as Secretary of HHS.

In October, President Biden nominated Joseph Donnelly to be the new U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See. When Donnelly served as a congressman, he was largely pro-life, but when he became a U.S. Senator, he pivoted and joined the pro-abortion camp. There is a reason why Donnelly was co-chair of Catholics for Biden. Like our “devout Catholic” president, he turned rogue..."
CATHOLIC LEAGUE FOR RELIGIOUS AND CIVIL RIGHTS 2021 YEAR IN REVIEW

That’s why Brandon and Pelosi are fake Catholics, they are evil, they are in favor of everything that’s against Catholicism, as Kerry and the Kennedy’s are, especially Ted when that liberal piece of drunken garbage was alive and got away with killing a young girl whom he left to drown and nothing happened to him.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Wrong.
YOU said something stupid - and I corrected you.

"Romanist" is nothing more than a woefully-ignorant and derogatory term.

Stupid to you, accepted by others. You say potato I say potatoe'!

 

[farouk]

Stupid to you, accepted by others. You say potato I say potatoe'!

@Ronald Nolette Spelling..... :)

 

[Ronald Nolette]

@Ronald Nolette Spelling..... :)

Well I don't know how to spell out how they pronounce potato and tomato differently, so I just made a new spelling!!!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Stupid to you, accepted by others. You say potato I say potatoe'!

Soooooo - if the "N" word is "accepted" by racists - then it's okay to use it ?
That's pretty stupid - even for YOU . . .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Soooooo - if the "N" word is "accepted" by racists - then it's okay to use it ?
That's pretty stupid - even for YOU . . .

You love to major on the minors. Instead of dealing with the topic, you act thin skinned over a word. I don't hate catholics, I hate catholicism. I will call average folks catholics, but the teachers are Romanists- those who follow the teachings of the Roman sect. If you cannot handfle it, do not reply to me. I bear no ill will towards people, just the false teachings of some.

 

[Illuminator]

You love to major on the minors. Instead of dealing with the topic, you act thin skinned over a word. I don't hate catholics, I hate catholicism. I will call average folks catholics, but the teachers are Romanists- those who follow the teachings of the Roman sect. If you cannot handfle it, do not reply to me. I bear no ill will towards people, just the false teachings of some.

Catholicism is not a sect. That's a false teaching. Do you hate the CC teaching on women, marriage, the family or sexuality? You don't even know what you hate. Instead of dealing with the topic, you throw in headless chicken comments that are inflammatory, off topic and uncharitable. Do you support Nancy Pelosi's anti-Catholicism? I'll wait for a thoughtful reply.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You love to major on the minors. Instead of dealing with the topic, you act thin skinned over a word. I don't hate catholics, I hate catholicism. I will call average folks catholics, but the teachers are Romanists- those who follow the teachings of the Roman sect. If you cannot handfle it, do not reply to me. I bear no ill will towards people, just the false teachings of some.

Hmmmmm . . . more idiocy.

Tell me - what exactly s the "Roman sect"?
What are it's core tenets and when was it established - and by WHOM?

If you're going to make such a claim - at LEAST have the courage to back it up with some facts.
If you can't do this - then we'll just chalk it up to yet another moronic anti-Catholic making a stupid and unsubstantiated claim . . .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Catholicism is not a sect. That's a false teaching. Do you hate the CC teaching on women, marriage, the family or sexuality? You don't even know what you hate. Instead of dealing with the topic, you throw in headless chicken comments that are inflammatory, off topic and uncharitable. Do you support Nancy Pelosi's anti-Catholicism? I'll wait for a thoughtful reply.

Well I was Catholic and even studied for the priesthood for a short time, so I think I have a knowledge of what their false doctrines are. I do not hate every teaching that Romanism teaches, every sect even the Jw's and Mormons have right doctrines.

Nancy Pelosi is not an authority of Romanism so it matters not what she teaches.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Hmmmmm . . . more idiocy.

Tell me - what exactly s the "Roman sect"?
What are it's core tenets and when was it established - and by WHOM?

If you're going to make such a claim - at LEAST have the courage to back it up with some facts.
If you can't do this - then we'll just chalk it up to yet another moronic anti-Catholic making a stupid and unsubstantiated claim . . .

The Roman sect is the roman Catholic Church.

Its core tenets in what area?? they have established a library called canon law so they have lots of core teachings on lots of subjects. Narrow it down please like Soteriologoy, Harmartiology, ecclesiology,

The Roman church date of foundinf is shrouded by several dates.

Jesus did not found it.

Peter was not its first Pope. But if you insist in Jesus founding then any bible church which claims scripture as its authority is founded by Jesus.

And you can chalk up anything you wish with whatever you wish.

But I will give you the one core teaching Romanism spreads that makes them preach another gospel:

They still hold to the false teaching that one can sin and lose the salvation gained for them by the cross of Jesus and the Blood He shed.

They preach a gospel of grace plus works are necessary for salvation in contradistinction to the Scriptures.

Which other core tenets you wish to have me expose?

Perpetual virginity's
Queen of heaven
Purgatory
limbo
indulgences
penance
baptismal regeneration for infants
celibacy
papal infallibility
worship(adoration) of saints
Mary as co-redemptrix and co mediatrix.
perpetual sacrifice of the mass

 

[farouk]

perpetual sacrifice of the mass

@Ronald Nolette I love how - in contrast - Hebrews 7.25 speaks of the Lord Jesus, our great high priest, Who 'ever liveth to make intercession' for all who trust Him.

 

[Philip James]

perpetual sacrifice of the mass

Hello Ronald,

Thats a big list. How bout we start with the sacrifice of the Eucharist being the fulfillment of Malachi 1:11 which the Church has recognized for 2000 years...
If not the Eucharist. Then pray tell me, what is the pure offering to His great name, being made 'from the east the west' ?

Pax et Bonum

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Hello Ronald,

Thats a big list. How bout we start with the sacrifice of the Eucharist being the fulfillment of Malachi 1:11 which the Church has recognized for 2000 years...
If not the Eucharist. Then pray tell me, what is the pure offering to His great name, being made 'from the east the west' ?

Pax et Bonum

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!

Well Scripture says Christ was sacrificed once for all time, Romanism teaches that the mass is a perpetual sacrifice. They either do not know the meaning of the word sacrifice or they are recreating the crucifixion each time they celebrate the mass. Which is nonsense.

when the church celebrates the Lords Supper it is a memorial showing His death for our sakes until He returns. It is not reoffering a sacrifice for sin. He did it once never to have it done again- even symbolically, but then Romanism doesn't teach it symbolic.

 

[RedFan]

Well Scripture says Christ was sacrificed once for all time, Romanism teaches that the mass is a perpetual sacrifice. They either do not know the meaning of the word sacrifice or they are recreating the crucifixion each time they celebrate the mass. Which is nonsense.

when the church celebrates the Lords Supper it is a memorial showing His death for our sakes until He returns. It is not reoffering a sacrifice for sin. He did it once never to have it done again- even symbolically, but then Romanism doesn't teach it symbolic.

Roman Catholics do not hold that the Mass is repeating the sacrifice of Christ. By current interpretations, that sacrifice is being realized―rather than repeated―through the consecration and offering of the elements in a mystical union stretching across the bridge of time and space.

I have yet to find a better exposition of this view than the following excerpt from an 1884 sermon given by an Episcopal priest, Daniel C. Roberts (1841-1907), on the twenty-fifth anniversary of the consecration of his church building, St. Paul’s, in Concord, New Hampshire:

"Christ hath offered and been offered once for all. But that one offering stands in the eternity of the being of God, free from the bond and measure of time, and He who made the offering stands in the royal Priesthood of Melchisedek, without beginning of days or end of life. We, in our feebleness, measure by days, by years, by anniversaries, generations, ages, centuries, cycles, but eternity with God is an everlasting now, and time is not. And so we plead, and the church ceases not to plead, the sacrifice of Christ. We do it day by day, year by year, and the narrow, scoffing unbeliever dares to say that we think to repeat the sacrifice many times. But it is not so. In the presence of that altar of the one sacrifice, in the presence of the cross of Calvary, we stand to-day; and we share to-day, by His own gift and benediction, the very Priesthood of Him who offers that sacrifice. We are made an holy Priesthood, offering unceasingly, as our constant and availing plea, but not renewing, that which is never old, never anything but new, the sacrifice of Christ."

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Roman Catholics do not hold that the Mass is repeating the sacrifice of Christ. By current interpretations, that sacrifice is being realized―rather than repeated―through the consecration and offering of the elements in a mystical union stretching across the bridge of time and space.

I have yet to find a better exposition of this view than the following excerpt from an 1884 sermon given by an Episcopal priest, Daniel C. Roberts (1841-1907), on the twenty-fifth anniversary of the consecration of his church building, St. Paul’s, in Concord, New Hampshire:

"Christ hath offered and been offered once for all. But that one offering stands in the eternity of the being of God, free from the bond and measure of time, and He who made the offering stands in the royal Priesthood of Melchisedek, without beginning of days or end of life. We, in our feebleness, measure by days, by years, by anniversaries, generations, ages, centuries, cycles, but eternity with God is an everlasting now, and time is not. And so we plead, and the church ceases not to plead, the sacrifice of Christ. We do it day by day, year by year, and the narrow, scoffing unbeliever dares to say that we think to repeat the sacrifice many times. But it is not so. In the presence of that altar of the one sacrifice, in the presence of the cross of Calvary, we stand to-day; and we share to-day, by His own gift and benediction, the very Priesthood of Him who offers that sacrifice. We are made an holy Priesthood, offering unceasingly, as our constant and availing plea, but not renewing, that which is never old, never anything but new, the sacrifice of Christ."

Well being an Episcopalian priest notwithstanding I shall cite a lengthy article from a catholic encyclopedia:

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Sacrifice of the Mass

And this brief excerpt:


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Sacrifice of the Mass - New ...
https://www.newadvent.org › cathen

Since the Mass is nothing else than a continual repetition, commanded by Christ Himself, of the Sacrifice accomplished at the Last Supper, it follows that the ..

Now t4he word repetition simply means doing again and again. So the Catholics believe they are repeating the sacrifice of Calvary. n Several Couoncils also pronounced Anathemas to those who do not believe in the perpetual sacrifice of the mass.

 

[RedFan]

Thanks for that, Ronald. As it happens, I was about to include a quote from that exact same Catholic Encyclopedia article as part of my post ("we plead and represent before the Father the Sacrifice of the Cross"), but took it out at the very end!