Justification By Works

[robert derrick]

The born again, as James teaches, are "justified by works" before others.........but not before God.

To be justified before GOD, """you must be born again"""= "Justified by Faith", as "Faith is counted as righteousness".

God receives your Faith in Christ to then redeem you with the Blood of Jesus..

That is not your "work"......that is God's Grace as your "Gift of Salvation.""

Salvation is a Gift. You dont work for a GIFT.

The born again, as James teaches, are "justified by works" before others.........but not before God.

Now that's a new crafty one indeed. Thanks.

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

So, Abraham was justified before Isaac only, not God.

And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.

"Faith is counted as righteousness".

God's faith obeyed is doing righteousness even as He is righteous.

Man's faith alone is counted as dead.

What man counts for righteousness by faith alone is not the righteousness God puts into the hearts of them that believe and obey Him within the heart.

God receives your Faith in Christ

Strange doctrine indeed is the result of them that go by their own thinking, rather than believing and obeying Scripture as written.

Our faith is our thinking, not God's knowledge.

God doesn't receive 'our faith'. We are to receive His faith, which is the gift that saves and justifies us, if we obey that faith of Jesus.

Man's faith saves no souls.

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Faith as with commandments is kept, done, obeyed.

Faith not done is faith undone and dead, even as commandments not done are useless.

to then redeem you with the Blood of Jesus..

To wash us from our sins with the blood of the Lamb of God.

The redeemed are washed clean and saved from their sins, not washed in them to keep doing them.

And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

The redeemed of the Lord are purified in heart and justified in doing His righteousness at all times.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Wow.
Is this nonsensical topic in EVERY forum I visit for believers..
Acts 13:37-40 [ in context]
But he whom God raised again,saw no corruption.
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethern, that through this man is preached unto you THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS:
AND BY HIM ALL THAT BELIEVE ARE JUSTIFIED FROM ALL THINGS,FROM WHICH YE COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW OF MOSES.Gal.2:16works of faith not of law for the law exposes sin and unrepentant sin brings death ( spiritual & the 2nd death)

Rms.4:1-3
3 For what saith the scripture?
Abraham Believed God,and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Gal.3:24.

Rms5:7-10
God commended his love towards us who were filthy and UNRIGHTEOUS by sending his only begotten son and while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. By his blood are we JUSTIFIED and saved from wrath through him.
1 Cor.6:11.

THIS IS OUR WORK BEFORE GOD ON EARTH,IT IS THE SAME AS HIS SON'S.

Luke 4: 18 ( from Isaiah)
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,because he hath anointed me to PREACH THE GOSPEL to the poor; he hath sent me TO HEAL UP THE BROKENHEARTED, TO PREACH DELIVERANCE TO THE CAPTIVES,and RECOVERING OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND,TO SET AT LIBERTY THEM THAT ARE BRUISED.

Mt.28:18-20, Mk.16:15 ,Luke 24: 46/47, Mt.9:37/38, Acts1:8, Rms.10:15,2Tim.2:15

Mt.10:7/8
And as ye go,preach, saying,The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick,cleanse the lepers,raise the dead,cast out devils: freely he have received freely give.
James 12:27
PURE RELIGION AND UNDEFILED LOVE BEFORE GOD AND THE FATHER IS THIS,TO VISIT THE FATHERLESS AND WIDOWS IN THEIR AFFLICTION,AND TO KEEP HIMSELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE WORLD.

 

[robert derrick]

Wow.
Is this nonsensical topic in EVERY forum I visit for believers..
Acts 13:37-40 [ in context]
But he whom God raised again,saw no corruption.
Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethern, that through this man is preached unto you THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS:
AND BY HIM ALL THAT BELIEVE ARE JUSTIFIED FROM ALL THINGS,FROM WHICH YE COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW OF MOSES.Gal.2:16works of faith not of law for the law exposes sin and unrepentant sin brings death ( spiritual & the 2nd death)

Rms.4:1-3
3 For what saith the scripture?
Abraham Believed God,and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Gal.3:24.

Rms5:7-10
God commended his love towards us who were filthy and UNRIGHTEOUS by sending his only begotten son and while we were yet sinners Christ died for us. By his blood are we JUSTIFIED and saved from wrath through him.
1 Cor.6:11.

THIS IS OUR WORK BEFORE GOD ON EARTH,IT IS THE SAME AS HIS SON'S.

Luke 4: 18 ( from Isaiah)
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,because he hath anointed me to PREACH THE GOSPEL to the poor; he hath sent me TO HEAL UP THE BROKENHEARTED, TO PREACH DELIVERANCE TO THE CAPTIVES,and RECOVERING OF SIGHT TO THE BLIND,TO SET AT LIBERTY THEM THAT ARE BRUISED.

Mt.28:18-20, Mk.16:15 ,Luke 24: 46/47, Mt.9:37/38, Acts1:8, Rms.10:15,2Tim.2:15

Mt.10:7/8
And as ye go,preach, saying,The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick,cleanse the lepers,raise the dead,cast out devils: freely he have received freely give.
James 12:27
PURE RELIGION AND UNDEFILED LOVE BEFORE GOD AND THE FATHER IS THIS,TO VISIT THE FATHERLESS AND WIDOWS IN THEIR AFFLICTION,AND TO KEEP HIMSELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE WORLD.

Is this nonsensical topic in EVERY forum I visit for believers.

Since you don't show how it is nonsensical, then it still makes perfect sense to me.

Also, since you don't address Abraham and His children by faith being justified by works with faith commanded in James, then I'll stick with being justified by works as Abraham obeyed God.

So, thanks anyway for your time.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

Is this nonsensical topic in EVERY forum I visit for believers.

Since you don't show how it is nonsensical, then it still makes perfect sense to me.

Also, since you don't address Abraham and His children by faith being justified by works with faith commanded in James, then I'll stick with being justified by works as Abraham obeyed God.

So, thanks anyway for your time.

Thumbs down in dislike bc I can't use my emojis.
Well ok you do you,I'll do me.

We and Abraham were AND ARE JUSTIFIED by FAITH!
I addressed works after salvation ,our justification is only in him ,he IS THE PROPITIATION for sin .
1John4:10
Herein is LOVE,not that we loved God,but that he loved us,and sent his son to be the propitiation for OUR SINS.

We can NOT save ourselves by working FOR Salvation. Never ever, it is by FAITH in his blood,to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,through the forbearance of God. Rms.3:25.

You believe what you want by picking scriptures YOU think says what you want,I'll stand on and in the word.

Btw your aggression is senseless. I don't scare and I NEVER move from the word.

 

[robert derrick]

Thumbs down in dislike bc I can't use my emojis.
Well ok you do you,I'll do me.

We and Abraham were AND ARE JUSTIFIED by FAITH!
I addressed works after salvation ,our justification is only in him ,he IS THE PROPITIATION for sin .
1John4:10
Herein is LOVE,not that we loved God,but that he loved us,and sent his son to be the propitiation for OUR SINS.

We can NOT save ourselves by working FOR Salvation. Never ever, it is by FAITH in his blood,to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,through the forbearance of God. Rms.3:25.

You believe what you want by picking scriptures YOU think says what you want,I'll stand on and in the word.

Btw your aggression is senseless. I don't scare and I NEVER move from the word.

We and Abraham were AND ARE JUSTIFIED by FAITH!

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Until you address the Scriptures and the teaching offered, then your response is useless.

We can NOT save ourselves by working FOR Salvation.

And misshaping the teaching doesn't help either, but only shows your insincerity.

I don't scare and I NEVER move from the word.

Glad to hear it. Now let's see if the word can move to correct you. Or at least address the argument sincerely.

 

[kcnalp]

Those who don't have Christian works are not Christians. Yes, Christianity is a "works" religion!

James 2:17 (NKJV)
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

We and Abraham were AND ARE JUSTIFIED by FAITH!

Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Until you address the Scriptures and the teaching offered, then your response is useless.

We can NOT save ourselves by working FOR Salvation.

And misshaping the teaching doesn't help either, but only shows your insincerity.

I don't scare and I NEVER move from the word.

Glad to hear it. Now let's see if the word can move to correct you. Or at least address the argument sincerely.

Whoa,pull back.

My sincerity is an UNDERSTANDING of the word of God,which you lack as well as reading comprehension.

Furthermore,you cannot teach me anything,a mere fallible man full of his own interpretations.
I am led by the Holy Spirit into God's word with all the power the TEACHER needs to transform my heart.

You are dispensable so poof...off to ignore with your attitude,high mindedness and arrogance!

 

[robert derrick]

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

The lie of OSAS is all about being saved by faith alone first, before and apart from doing good works, which makes salvation by faith alone without good works at first, as though there is temporal time between believing and obeying God.

I.e. unto good works is in the future.

This is of course false, since obeying God first begins withing the heart, when first believing God, to wash within the cup, that the outside by be clean, not unto cleaning.

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Nevertheless, to be consistent, we first believe with the heart, before and apart from doing righteousness: we believe unto righteousness.

Therefore, we first confess with the mouth, before and apart from being saved: we confess unto salvation.

And so, believing and confessing saves no man, because even as good works and doing righteousness only comes later, so does salvation.

And so we conclude Scripture is true: no man is saved by dead faith alone, and is only justified by works of God's righteousness, which we do within the heart first, that we may be doing His righteousness at all times in the flesh.

 

[Behold]

The lie of OSAS is all about being saved by faith alone

Faith does not save you.
How do you know?
Because Faith didnt die on the Cross for you.

Also.

Water Baptism can't save you.
How do you know.
Because Water Baptism didnt die on the Cross for you.

Also.

Good deeds, enduring to the end, commandment keeping, and joining a specific "church" can't save you.
How do you know?
Because NONE OF THAT died on the Cross for you.

So, what is left?
Christ on the Cross.
There is your Savior, and the proof God has saved you through Christ, is if you are Born again.
Being Born again is the only only proof that you are saved, as apart from this, there is no proof, as everything else is something YOU can do, and nothing you can do, can save you.
How do you know?
Because YOU didnt die on the Cross.

 

[amigo de christo]

Talk about overthinking . What i just read sounded a bit scary .
JESUS SAVES , but if our faith aint in HIM , if we believe not , dont expect to be saved .
Since when did folks start making something so simple so complex .
FOR YE are saved by Grace through FAITH IN CHRIST . And if i lip his name and yet walk in darkness
well , I DONT KNOW HIM . Faith without works is dead , SO IS all the works without faith in CHRIST .
Cornelious should be a good reminder to all .
Cornelious did much good . MUCH GOOD . Gave much alms , did so much good it came up as a remembrance before GOD .
But to be saved , CORNELIOUS NEEDED SOMETHING . TO HEAR that gospel and BELIEVE IN CHRIST .
That should be very simple to see . And as i said earlier if i can lip the name of Christ
but still love and support sin , WELL i aint HIS EITHER . WHO WE SERVE IS WHOSE WE ARE .
PROOF of WHO INDWELLS US .

 

[robert derrick]

Faith does not save you.
How do you know?
Because Faith didnt die on the Cross for you.

Also.

Water Baptism can't save you.
How do you know.
Because Water Baptism didnt die on the Cross for you.

Also.

Good deeds, enduring to the end, commandment keeping, and joining a specific "church" can't save you.
How do you know?
Because NONE OF THAT died on the Cross for you.

So, what is left?
Christ on the Cross.
There is your Savior, and the proof God has saved you through Christ, is if you are Born again.
Being Born again is the only only proof that you are saved, as apart from this, there is no proof, as everything else is something YOU can do, and nothing you can do, can save you.
How do you know?
Because YOU didnt die on the Cross.

Once again, you have no clue what you are talking about. You are a spiritualist void of truth of Scripture. You use the name of Jesus and the cross to wipe your mouth with after sinning:

Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

Faith does not save you.

What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Our faith does not save us, but only receiving His faith saves us, by keeping His faith unto the end:

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Because YOU didnt die on the Cross.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

No man died on Jesus' cross, but He Himself. If we come after Him, we must die on our own cross for His name's sake.

Jesus dying on His cross saves no man, but only opens the door to be saved by dying on our own cross through Him.

Christ has not saved you, until you take up your own cross to die to sins in the flesh, and live as He did in the days of His flesh.

Trying to piggy back on His cross of Jesus by your own scriptureless imagination will not have part in the first resurrection.

When I was a hypocrite such as yourself, trying to be saved by faith only, while yet being a sinner, I also imagined all men getting to heaven, because of Jesus on the cross.

My imagination was without bounds and very, very generous to all men.

Any sinner would let Hitler and the devil himself into heaven, so long as they get there too.

You practice spiritual witchcraft, not the faith of Jesus. Seriously, are you a christian wicken? You sound like one.

 

[mailmandan]

Romans 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it (faith, not works) was accounted to him for righteousness." 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.

Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, (apart from additions or modifications) we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

Once again, you have no clue what you are talking about. You are a spiritualist void of truth of Scripture. You use the name of Jesus and the cross to wipe your mouth with after sinning:

Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

Faith does not save you.

What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Our faith does not save us, but only receiving His faith saves us, by keeping His faith unto the end:

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Because YOU didnt die on the Cross.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

No man died on Jesus' cross, but He Himself. If we come after Him, we must die on our own cross for His name's sake:

Jesus dying on His cross saves no man, but only opens the door to be saved by dying on our own cross through Him.

Christ has not saved you, until you take up your own cross to die to sins in the flesh, and live as He did in the days of His flesh.

Trying to piggy back on His cross by your scriptureless imagination will not have part in the first resurrection.

Too many use liberty as a means to sin . WHEN IN TRUTH paul said ONLY USE NOT your LIBERTY as an occasion to serve THE FLESH .
Too many use the word freedom to mean FREE TO SIN , when in truth it means BEING MADE FREE FROM SIN
Being then made free YE BECAME THE SERVANTS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS , not SIN , RIGHTEOUSNESS .
Too many use the word love and so on and so forth . But they use these words by the power of darkness .
Only satan would do such a thing . Ponder that .
WHO would tell the church , HAS GOD , HAS JESUS really said IF ye continue NOT in me ye are cast out .
NAY NAY it says , GOD IS LOVE , say a prayer and do as thou wilt .
WHo would tell the church , DID JESUS really tell them to GO and SIN NO MORE lest something even WORSE COME UPON YOU ,
NAY NAY it says , GOD IS LOVE , HE KNOWS WE CANT STOP SINNING . DO as thou wilt
Satan would .
WHO would convince the church there is no need to even have to believe in CHRIST to be saved .
DID JESUS really say that if one believes not in HIM they will be damned , nAY NAY it says
GOD IS LOVE , even those in other religoins are saved . SATAN WOULD .
WHO would convince the church and say , HEY DID JESUS REALLY say that YE must be DOERS of the WORD
and that if one is not a doer HE has NO FOUNDATION . NAY NAY says the serpent , THAT IS LEGALISM .
I can do this all night . TOO many people have learned another jesus , another gospel and it cant save them at all .
Did paul really write the church and GOD wont be mocked that he who sows the the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruptoin
but HE who sows to the SPIRIT shall of the SPIRIT reap LIFE everlasting .
NAY NAY it says , GOD IS LOVE , that is legalism .
DId paul really write the church and say
BEHOLD both the goodness and severity of GOD
severity towards those who did not beleive but goodness towards thee , IF YA CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS
otherwise ye too shall be CUT OFF . NAY nay it says , SAY A PRAYER and dO as thou wilt YE CANT FALL AWAY . YE cant be cast out
WE have serious problems in the church realm today my friend . Too many are following another jesus
And think they have the light , YET THE LIGHT that be in many IS DARKNESS and cometh of the dark one
who himself can appear as an angel of light , EVEN THOUGH HE BE OF DARKNESS . AND No marvel
if his ministirs can appear as though they are of us , when in truth OH NO THEY AINT . TOO many wont read
the bible FOR THEMSELVES and instead sit under men who TWIST IT to justify their own teachings .

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

Faith does not save you.
Being Born again is the only only proof that you are saved, as apart from this, there is no proof, as everything else is something YOU can do, and nothing you can do, can save you.
How do you know?
Because YOU didnt die on the Cross.

you almost got there…… now tell us, how do we know if we have been born again??

 

[Behold]

Talk about overthinking . What i just read sounded a bit scary .
JESUS SAVES , but if our faith aint in HIM ,

No overthinking is required.
What is required for a person to go to heaven, has been completed on the Cross.
This is why God on the Cross said...>"it is finished"., and He should know.

All other theologies, philosophies, and man made attempts to dodge, duck, and avoid the blood atonement, = by trying to replace it with self effort, will land you here.
John 3:36.

Here is the thing.....when God manifested in the Flesh told you that He is THE WAY to the Father....>He isn't kidding. John 14:6
And thousands who tried to get there with water, works, mary, church attendance, and trying to imitate Christ, died today, and found out that Jesus was not their savior.
They were, and that is why they went to Hell.

 

[Behold]

you almost got there…… now tell us, how do we know if we have been born again??

How do you know if you are born again?
Very simple....... Christ has joined you to God, and you can't do that for yourself.
And when this has happened, you'll talk about THAT.
See, Christians talk about their Savior and what He did for them.. as that is their love for God and God's love in them, that urges this PRAISE.
Fakirs talk about Christians who talk about what Christ did for them.
Fakirs talk about water, works, and try to prove that God's Salvation is Temporary, and is only as good as their behavior.

A fakir, a Christian fakir will read....>"Jesus who saved you keeps you saved", and this will cause them to become carnally upset and want to argue that THEY keep themselves saved.

See that?
That is Exactly, NO FAITH IN CHRIST.
None.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Romans 4:2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it (faith, not works) was accounted to him for righteousness." 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. 5 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, 6 just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works.

Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, (apart from additions or modifications) we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

I am amazed at those who will continually use james to support their works based theology. Yet refuse to listen to Paul who time and time again said it is not by works by which we have been saved but By Gods mercy.

It is those who have the faith of Abraham who is saved. The people in James did not have the faith of Abraham. They had mere belief. A belief that although acknowledged Jesus (even demons acknowledge him) they have no faith in the gospel or in Jesus himself. Proven by the fact they never do anything Jesus asks. Because they are not born of God. and do not have Gods Spirit to learn and guide them

These people also show their own lack of faith in God as they deny that the God who says he will complete a work in us, Might fail Thats its all on us..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Too many use liberty as a means to sin . WHEN IN TRUTH paul said ONLY USE NOT your LIBERTY as an occasion to serve THE FLESH .
Too many use the word freedom to mean FREE TO SIN , when in truth it means BEING MADE FREE FROM SIN
Being then made free YE BECAME THE SERVANTS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS , not SIN , RIGHTEOUSNESS .
Too many use the word love and so on and so forth . But they use these words by the power of darkness .
Only satan would do such a thing . Ponder that .
WHO would tell the church , HAS GOD , HAS JESUS really said IF ye continue NOT in me ye are cast out .
NAY NAY it says , GOD IS LOVE , say a prayer and do as thou wilt .
WHo would tell the church , DID JESUS really tell them to GO and SIN NO MORE lest something even WORSE COME UPON YOU ,
NAY NAY it says , GOD IS LOVE , HE KNOWS WE CANT STOP SINNING . DO as thou wilt
Satan would .
WHO would convince the church there is no need to even have to believe in CHRIST to be saved .
DID JESUS really say that if one believes not in HIM they will be damned , nAY NAY it says
GOD IS LOVE , even those in other religoins are saved . SATAN WOULD .
WHO would convince the church and say , HEY DID JESUS REALLY say that YE must be DOERS of the WORD
and that if one is not a doer HE has NO FOUNDATION . NAY NAY says the serpent , THAT IS LEGALISM .
I can do this all night . TOO many people have learned another jesus , another gospel and it cant save them at all .
Did paul really write the church and GOD wont be mocked that he who sows the the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruptoin
but HE who sows to the SPIRIT shall of the SPIRIT reap LIFE everlasting .
NAY NAY it says , GOD IS LOVE , that is legalism .
DId paul really write the church and say
BEHOLD both the goodness and severity of GOD
severity towards those who did not beleive but goodness towards thee , IF YA CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS
otherwise ye too shall be CUT OFF . NAY nay it says , SAY A PRAYER and dO as thou wilt YE CANT FALL AWAY . YE cant be cast out
WE have serious problems in the church realm today my friend . Too many are following another jesus
And think they have the light , YET THE LIGHT that be in many IS DARKNESS and cometh of the dark one
who himself can appear as an angel of light , EVEN THOUGH HE BE OF DARKNESS . AND No marvel
if his ministirs can appear as though they are of us , when in truth OH NO THEY AINT . TOO many wont read
the bible FOR THEMSELVES and instead sit under men who TWIST IT to justify their own teachings .

They judge others while they pump their chest and refuse to acknowledge their own sin.

They have yet to become like the tax collector. They are too busy looking down on tax collectors and calling them people who love their sin while pumping their chest praising God they are not like us.

 

[PinSeeker]

Those who don't believe salvation through faith ~ not salvation by faith; that is not Biblical ~ is a God-given and and eternal-life-guaranteeing thing have faith not in a person ~ namely Jesus ~ but rather faith in their own faith, which is terribly misguided.

Biblical faith, as defined in Hebrews 11:1, is "(t)he assurance" ~ which is given by God and worked in the person in the life-giving work of the Holy Spirit whereas the person is born again ~ "of things hoped for, the conviction" ~ also worked in the person by the Holy Spirit, Who convicts ~ "of things not seen."

And it is on this basis that we are justified, as Paul says in Romans 5:1 ("we have been justified by" ~ because of ~ "faith"). As Paul says in Ephesians 2:8-10, it is "by (God's) grace (we) have been saved" ~ past tense; we will not be somehow (any how) 'unsaved' ~ "through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them."

And continuing in Hebrews 11:3, "By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible." So our understanding correctly initially is the result of the working of faith in us by the Holy Spirit, as is the maintaining of this understanding in us by the same Holy Spirit, Who, as Jesus promised in John 14:15-26, is in each of us and with us forever, teaching us all things and bringing to our remembrance all that Jesus said to us.

It is true, though, that we will be judged at the end of the age according to what we have done. Jesus shows us this clearly in His depiction of the final Judgment at the end of Matthew 25, Paul says this clearly in Romans 2:6 ("He will render to each one according to his works"), and so does Jesus in Revelation 2:3 ("I will give to each of you according to your works"). But to the point that we keep debating and debating and debating without end, Paul says in Titus 3:5 that "(God) saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to His own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, Whom He poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by His grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life."

Grace and peace to all.

 

[Behold]

I am amazed at those who will continually use james to support their works based theology. Yet refuse to listen to Paul who time and time again said it is not by works by which we have been saved but By Gods mercy.
It is those who have the faith of Abraham who is saved.

Most of the time, these "people" who deny God's Grace, in favor of water and works, do so because they are conformed into the image of their lying minister or denomination..or a set of commentaries that they use in place of their bible that taught them the deception that has them deceived.

A real believer, who has some idea of the Gospel of the Grace of God, understands a KEY.
This key is..

= Jesus Is Salvation.

So, if you have Jesus in you, you are certainly saved, as you can't have Christ in you, and not be born again.

Now the novice, the newbie, the deceived "theologian" that hangs out on Christian Forums trying to replace the Cross with their idea of "here is how i save myself".....and "here is how i keep myself saved", is literally not connected to the Holy One who is the only One who does that, and has accomplished it for all eternity for all the redeemed.