Can you be saved if you don't believe in the diety of Christ?

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Aunty Jane

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You did not say latter day revelation but you taught only your church which came into existence in recent times has rediscovered the truth of Gods word, thus the NWT was created by the watch tower.

Here you are claiming the prophecy of Daniel only now by JW's enlightenment understand.
Show me how you prove your claim, within the last 100 years, from scriptures? The scriptures teach this nowhere! Only you are claiming within the last 100 years. That is latter day prophecy.



Prove with scripture your latter day revelation of your people being the enlightened ones that have only been in the world for over 100 years? That number is made up by the Watch Tower!

Where does the Bible teach Jesus is the Arch angel Michael?
More made up JW doctrine.

The NWT perverts John 1:1 to fit their false doctrine that claims the Bible never says Jesus is God.
John 1:1 NKJV
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Now the NWT perversion of John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was a god.

That is why the NWT was created to pervert the Bible to make it say what the watch tower wants it to say!
Now you claim you are not a polytheist. Your Bible shows you most certainly are.Jesus is God!

Aunty Jane has denied God over and over. There is no hope for you Aunty Jane. So, so sad.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of peace.

Ephesians 2:4
For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one and has broken down the middle wall of seperation,

1John 2:1
My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate(Counselor) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

Jesus is proclaimed God all throughout the sacred scriptures!

2Thessalonians 3:12;16
Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
-Now may the Lord of peace Himself give you peace always in every way. The Lord be with you all.
No point in responding to someone who has no comprehension that can reach outside of his own chosen position. You have your fingers firmly placed in both ears....blocking entry into the heart which is where true understanding is examined. You misinterpret everything I say according to your own twisted interpretation of the Bible.

I asked you what the good news of the kingdom is.....I asked you what God’s kingdom is using scripture....your answer? Crickets!

If you cannot comprehend simple questions about the very thing Jesus came to teach his disciples, then why bother trying to tell you anything else? You don’t, or won’t listen. Your choice.

Re-read my posts, I have already explained everything. Not wasting my time anymore. Shaking the dust off....
 

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No point in responding to someone who has no comprehension that can reach outside of his own chosen position. You have your fingers firmly placed in both ears....blocking entry into the heart which is where true understanding is examined. You misinterpret everything I say according to your own twisted interpretation of the Bible.

I asked you what the good news of the kingdom is.....I asked you what God’s kingdom is using scripture....your answer? Crickets!

If you cannot comprehend simple questions about the very thing Jesus came to teach his disciples, then why bother trying to tell you anything else? You don’t, or won’t listen. Your choice.

Re-read my posts, I have already explained everything. Not wasting my time anymore. Shaking the dust off....
no Mk 16:16 acts 8:36-38 Faith and baptism
Amen, what church are you a member of
 

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No point in responding to someone who has no comprehension that can reach outside of his own chosen position. You have your fingers firmly placed in both ears....blocking entry into the heart which is where true understanding is examined. You misinterpret everything I say according to your own twisted interpretation of the Bible.

I asked you what the good news of the kingdom is.....I asked you what God’s kingdom is using scripture....your answer? Crickets!

If you cannot comprehend simple questions about the very thing Jesus came to teach his disciples, then why bother trying to tell you anything else? You don’t, or won’t listen. Your choice.

Re-read my posts, I have already explained everything. Not wasting my time anymore. Shaking the dust off....

John 1:1 NWT
...and the Word was a god
 

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No point in responding to someone who has no comprehension that can reach outside of his own chosen position. You have your fingers firmly placed in both ears....blocking entry into the heart which is where true understanding is examined. You misinterpret everything I say according to your own twisted interpretation of the Bible.

I asked you what the good news of the kingdom is.....I asked you what God’s kingdom is using scripture....your answer? Crickets!

If you cannot comprehend simple questions about the very thing Jesus came to teach his disciples, then why bother trying to tell you anything else? You don’t, or won’t listen. Your choice.

Re-read my posts, I have already explained everything. Not wasting my time anymore. Shaking the dust off....

You can always put Titus on "ignore". I do that with people who can't control themselves and/or make no sense.
 
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You can always put Titus on "ignore". I do that with people who can't control themselves and/or make no sense.
Do you believe in that God is the Father, Son, Holy Spirit? I do.
 

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You can always put Titus on "ignore". I do that with people who can't control themselves and/or make no sense.
That is a last resort for me....I like to hear what others have to say so that I can respond to them.....it helps if they are actually interested in a discussion but some just want to parrot off their ancient indoctrination. :(
 

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You can always put Titus on "ignore". I do that with people who can't control themselves and/or make no sense.
Gave in...had to, he was getting noxious. Obviously he has never been on the receiving end of an "ex"s" testimony....:rolleyes: They never tell the truth.
 
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The only question that's worse than "Can you be saved if...?"

Code for "What file shall I keep you in and which hate web sites do I look for stuff to accuse you of?" :p

You gotta admit there is something seriously wrong with not being open about the faith you believe in.
Jesus adds the saved to His church, Acts 2:47.
I'm more than happy to share the church that God added me to, Romans 16:16. What a privilege to be in Christ's church!

All the saved are in His church,
Ephesians 5:23
For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body.

Since all that are saved are in His church,body.
It would only be right to share that church with others.
We cannot be saved outside His church.

The Psalmist said, Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain who build it, Psalm 127:1
The Lords house is the Lords church,
1Timothy 3:15,
But if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Any church other than the Lords has an empty existence!

The Lord only promised to build one church,
Matthew 16:18-19
And I also say to you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build My church and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.
Is a church built by man, as good as the church built by Christ?

Paul taught only one church, Ephesians 4:4,
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling
The body is identified as the church in Colossians 1:24,
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body which is the church.

We can only be reconciled in one church, ie the making of peace with God, is only possible in the one body,
Ephesians 2:16, the church,
That He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.

Jesus is the Savior of only one church, Ephesians 5:23.

Barnyfife, it is strange to not want to share your church with others.
 

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You gotta admit there is something seriously wrong with not being open about the faith you believe in.
Jesus adds the saved to His church, Acts 2:47.
I'm more than happy to share the church that God added me to, Romans 16:16. What a privilege to be in Christ's church!

All the saved are in His church,
Ephesians 5:23
For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body.

Since all that are saved are in His church,body.
It would only be right to share that church with others.
We cannot be saved outside His church.

The Psalmist said, Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain who build it, Psalm 127:1
The Lords house is the Lords church,
1Timothy 3:15,
But if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Any church other than the Lords has an empty existence!

The Lord only promised to build one church,
Matthew 16:18-19
And I also say to you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build My church and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.
Is a church built by man, as good as the church built by Christ?

Paul taught only one church, Ephesians 4:4,
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling
The body is identified as the church in Colossians 1:24,
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body which is the church.

We can only be reconciled in one church, ie the making of peace with God, is only possible in the one body,
Ephesians 2:16, the church,
That He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.

Jesus is the Savior of only one church, Ephesians 5:23.

Barnyfife, it is strange to not want to share your church with others.
I don't mind sharing it with others, just not you.
 

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@Titus

Would you like to know my age and my weight, too?

No, but I would like you to know that unless we know the truth, we will not be saved.
That's what I'm here for. To help anyone in need of knowing how the gospel of Christ saves.
I know that God does not accept differing doctrines. Denominationalism has convinced many that "we are all headed to the same place, Just going different ways"
That is why folks on here do not see the urgency to refute, error.
They have the idea that we can believe different doctrines and still get to heaven.

Is the way to heaven the broad way?
Matthew 7:14
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life and there is few who find it.
Jesus taught it is difficult to attain eternal life.

The Bible teaches there are no different ways.
There is only one way, John 14:6,

I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
How many ways is that?

Only those who obey the Lords commandments will enter into heaven, John writes, Revelation 22:14,
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.