No. Wrong again.
Jesus was referring to being first born of water (of women), and then born again of the spirit of God.
"Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.
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Jesus was referring to being first born of water (of women), and then born again of the spirit of God.
ez 36:25-27
Ez 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Jn 3:5 Born again BY water and the spirit! Not by “faith alone”!
They did not go to Jerusalem and preach “accept Christ as you’re personal Lord and savior “
They went to the river (water) and they baptized! Jn 3:22
your pride and zeal have blinded you to the truth!
we have the life of grace but must remain faithful and in obedience must abide in Christ and in a state of believing until death then we enter salvation
That is why I am contending with you--because you "reject the revelation of God!"
You say the words but do not understand even what you are saying.
"Apostles" are those "who are sent." But what you apparently do not understand although it is written, is that God has poured out His spirit upon "all flesh"--raising "Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt."--All are "sent." As it is also written:
But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8 Therefore He says:
“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”
9 (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. Ephesians 47-12
...Which you now reject, saying only a few.“When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men.”
9 (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)
11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. Ephesians 47-12
You do not understand.
It is--God is--all spiritual.
What you are referring to--all that you now see, is only made manifest that the man of sin should be revealed before the judgement. And so he is.
No.
You are wrong (again, and again).
Christ is the Son of David. Christ is King. The church is appointed "a kingdom", as His body, not as Head.
That is only true for the evil servant who Christ cuts in two leaving them to their preference of life in flesh and blood and heaping burdens upon men. Matthew 24:51
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No. Your not getting it
We have eternal life by grace. Because we can not earn it
We earn death. That is all we will ever earn. We can be the most morally upright person who does every sacrament, and church tradition and ceremony, Goes to church every time the doors are open. Prays without ceasing, does every christian dead. He will still be morally bancrupt and apart from Grace and he has remained dead inspite of all his good works.. And will suffer eternal death if he does not repent.
I know that makes people mad.. It hurts their pride. That why the pharisees and religious jews crucified Christ, because he told them the same thing, and they refused to repent.
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Timothy was a bishop successor to the apostle Paul
2 Tim 3:17
but I was referring to the verse “the man of God” and a man of God is an apostle
that’s nice but not scriptural
Jn 3:5 born again by WATER AND THE SPIRIT
not born of water and born again of the spirit
See Jn 3:22 they did not go round preaching faith alone!
the went to the river (water) and baptized
the went to the river (water) and baptized
You are changing your story...without first admitting you were wrong. That is what liars do. I am not going to entertain one who is deceitful in this way.
As for bishops, they are just other "helpers" who are sent.
You do not know your scripture. Not only did you misquote it, but you speak falsely of what you do not know.
Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ John 3:5-7
Jesus explained the context of being born of water, as "born of the flesh."...which is exactly what I told you, just as He did, and you have rejected it already.
Such actions call for repentance.
its a covenant a body a kingdom
Lk 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
Prophecy of the new covenant church fulfilled in the apostolic union with Christ!
Matt 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, (Israel) and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The new covenant church) Jn 15:1-5
Dan 2: 44 And in the days of these kings (Roman Caesars) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
Isaiah 2:2
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Micah 4:1
But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
Lk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Matthew 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Matthew 6:33
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
you can’t seek what you can’t see
christ is king and head of the new covenant kingdom body of Christ
And Peter is his minister to govern the church and administer the kingdom until Christ returns Isa 22:21-22 Matt 16:19
we are not required to be faithful?
Not required to abide?
Not required to continue believing?
You know not the hour your master returns so be ready
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