KJV Only...which one!

[JesusFan1]

But what if KJB Only is in fact from GOD. You would be calling that which is good as evil. That's not good. In either case, I can see you simply do not want to discuss the topic (seeing you won't even explain Matthew 24:35 to me). If such is the case, I think it is time for me to move on from talking to you, friend. For there is no point in trying to show you something you refuse to see or discuss.

The kjv is not any more the word of God to us in english then nas esv and Nkjv!

 

[JesusFan1]

And that's fine. However, there is nothing in the Bible against modern versions of the Bible. I have done His will, by praying and receiving by faith His answer to a prayer.

Your beliefs are not binding on me.

And where does the Nas/esv and Nkjv corrupt and deny essential doctrines at?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Continuing on in my point from post #273, and post #274:

I believe a settled KJB (or Bible) needed to happen. In 1828, the Apocrypha was taken out of the KJB. This is one reason why I believe there was a final purification with the Cambridge Edition KJB in 1900. While Christians knew the Apocrypha was not really authoritative Scripture, it was still in the Bible and needed to be removed so as not to mislead or misguide others. Hence, the need for one last update, and this was the 1900 Cambridge Edition.

 

[Enoch111]

The kjv is not any more the word of God to us in english then nas esv and Nkjv!

You speak from sheer ignorance. So take some time to educate yourself about Bible manuscripts and translations. And there is no excuse for ignorance in this day and age.

 

[JesusFan1]

Well, I believe the texts we do have that lines up with the KJB says the same thing. But those words in italics in the KJB that were added for clarity (Which would be like words in brackets that are not really there but yet are there). These italicized words were simply what God was doing in Jeremiah 36:28 and Jeremiah 36:32.

Again, God added many like words to the copy that was to replace the original Scripture.
So God can edit His own words.

The italicized words were added because God is not the author of confusion. 2 Samuel 21:19 is a great example of this. The words [brother of] were added to align with what 1 Chronicles 20:5 says. Yet, Modern bibles like the NASB simply confuses the issue and leaves these words out making us believe that Elhanan killed Goliath when it really was Elhanan killed the brother of Goliath.

Are you stating that the 1611 Translators were inspired in the same fashion the writers of the Hebrew and Greek texts were by Holy Spirit?

 

[JesusFan1]

Continuing on in my point from post #273, and post #274:

I believe a settled KJB (or Bible) needed to happen. In 1828, the Apocrypha was taken out of the KJB. This is one reason why I believe there was a final purification with the Cambridge Edition KJB in 1900. While Christians knew the Apocrypha was not really authoritative Scripture, it was still in the Bible and needed to be removed so as not to mislead or misguide others. Hence, the need for one last update, and this was the 1900 Cambridge Edition.

So the 1611 Kjv was not the perfect translation, nor the 1789, nor 1873, but the 1900 edition?

 

[JesusFan1]

You speak from sheer ignorance. So take some time to educate yourself about Bible manuscripts and translations. And there is no excuse for ignorance in this day and age.

Supreme irony on thnis is that the Lkvo are pretty much total ignorant on textual criticism and biblical translation!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Amen. Sound Doctrine Is Very Important, As CHRIST
Revealed To our apostle, Paul:

Tit 2:1 "But speak thou the things which become Sound Doctrine:"

I agree, brother.

 

[Berserk]

Enoch and Bible Highlighter need to have their nose rubbed in more specific texts in which the KJV has obviously been corrupted and in the objective criteria used by modern Text Critics tor determine later reads, criteria of which they are blissfully oblivious.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

So the 1611 Kjv was not the perfect translation, nor the 1789, nor 1873, but the 1900 edition?

We are talking about seven MAJOR editions of the KJB that had significant impact on believers. An edition that was burned before it was used by anyone would not count anymore than some obscure translation that most people have never truly used in human history.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Enoch and Bible Highlighter need to have their nose rubbed in more specific texts in which the KJV has obviously been corrupted and in the objective criteria used by modern Text Critics tor determine later reads, criteria of which they are blissfully oblivious.

Blessings be unto you in the Lord.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Are you stating that the 1611 Translators were inspired in the same fashion the writers of the Hebrew and Greek texts were by Holy Spirit?

More like providentially guided through a seven purification process with the seven different KJB editions. God sometimes works in view of the larger picture at times like God did with Joseph's brothers doing evil against Joseph. The evil Joseph's brothers did towards their brother Joseph, God intended to use it for good in the end. God does not have to conform to our way of thinking. God can operate in a larger scope than we can currently see in the moment.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

The kjv is not any more the word of God to us in english then nas esv and Nkjv!

I understand that is what you believe, but that would not be a position of considering the other side of the case (KJB Only). We did not just wake up one day and seen a light shining on the KJB letting us know it was the Word of God. Many of us carefully compared the evidence. We compared the KJB vs. Modern Bibles. We compared the histories of the KJB vs. Modern Bibles. We compared the moral standard between the KJB vs. Modern Bibles. We compared to see which one is more faith based (or based on the Bible itself in what it says). Therein lies the difference between us. It is my hope that you may one day carefully reconsider the evidence again in a new light that you have never seen it before.

In either case, may the Lord's love shine upon you today (even if you disagree).

 

[CadyandZoe]

Post #170 provided a link to a list of changed doctrines. I also mentioned two additional changed doctrines that was not mentioned in the link, as well. I mentioned John 1:18, and Micah 5:2 in how some Modern Bibles falsely teach that Jesus is a second created God.

As for the link you missed: See here for the post on the doctrinal changes.

Note: In that thread, I also posted changed commands, as well.

See here for the changed commands.

I am not going to follow links. Let's take one verse at a time. Here is the NASB 1995 translation of John 1:18. What doctrine was changed?
18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Are we Vulcans or robots? God does not want us to turn off our emotions because they are a part of loving others. But I do not believe the evidence I presented is biased to any kind of emotional manipulation alone. If that is the case, then you need to prove that is the case in light of ALL of the evidence I presented. But I just do not get that impression you are going to do that because you do not appear to be interested in examining all of the evidence carefully to begin with.

Perhaps you don't understand. Proper arguments give reasons and evidence, which appeal to reason and convey rational ideas. Appeals to emotion typically indicate the possession of a weak argument and reveals doubt. You appear to doubt your own belief.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I will be back (Lord willing).
Taking a lunch break here (Seeing my body is calling for the need of nourishment).

 

[CadyandZoe]

Proverbs 18:13
“He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.”

From this response I conclude that you have nothing to support your contention that God superintended the KJV. Until you can prove it, your beliefs are unsubstantiated and not worthy of affirmation.

 

[CadyandZoe]

The Kjvo just need to read and heed the Preface on the 1611 Kjv

Interesting point. I have never read the preface.

 

[CadyandZoe]

The Holy Spirit has never inspired any translation

I agree, but I think I can safely say that the Holy Spirit guides us in all truth.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Enoch and Bible Highlighter need to have their nose rubbed in more specific texts in ... the KJV

Amen! And don't forget @GRACE ambassador + The "eyes we use"
To SEE and READ God's PERFECT Word, happen to be right above our

rubbed-in noses, where God Put them, eh?

GRACE And Peace...