KJV Only...which one!

[Bible Highlighter]

God doesn't always answer with scripture. God can answer anyway He wants, scripture isn't the only method.

Again, you're never going to get me to change my mind. God answered my prayer.

Today: I believe God always answers in a way that backs up Scripture in some way or that leads us to look to His Word in some form. Why? Because God magnifies His Word above His own name. God wants us to do His will according to Scripture.

 

[JesusFan1]

How can corrupted bibles have the same authority as uncorrupted bibles?

The Kjv is corrupted also!

 

[Enoch111]

Enoch acts as if Jesus and Paul spoke in King James English.

You know as well as I do that this is PURE BALONEY. But since you really have no clue about this matter, you make silly accusations. You actually believe that the most corrupt bibles and manuscripts are the most trustworthy!

 

[JesusFan1]

"JesusFan1 to Enoch 111: "Can you show me the list where ANY scholar on the nas/esv/Nkjv translation teams became heretics, or denied the full inerrancy and inspiration of the originals?"

On the other hand. the KJV translators included a womanizing drunk, who was nevertheless competent in Bible languages. On this see the BBC documentary on the origin of the KJV.

JesusFan! to Enoch 111: "Do you read hebrew and Koine Greek though, as those texts have authority over the Kjv!"

Enoch 111: "Why would I do that when I have God's very preserved words that I can hold in my hands right now (i.e. the KJB)?"

Enoch acts as if Jesus and Paul spoke in King James English. He doesn't realize that the Bible cannot be accurately translated into English because for many theological and ethical terms in Hebrew and Greek there is no one-to-one English equivalent. That's why seminaries teach Hebrew and Greek.

The Kjvo really do see the Kjv as having authority over the Hebrew and Greek texts, as they hold that better to translate off the Kjv then those original language texts!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

The Kjvo just need to read and heed the Preface on the 1611 Kjv

God can use men despite their own intentions or plans. God used the evil of Joseph's brothers done towards Joseph for a greater plan for good in the end. Saul's men who were after David had prophesied against their own wishes or plans. God made Jonah to go back to the city of Nineveh despite his own desires.

So God has a way of doing things despite our current desires or actions. So the KJB Preface is not a good argument when we look at the Bible in how God uses men despite their intentions.

 

[JesusFan1]

You know as well as I do that this is PURE BALONEY. But since you really have no clue about this matter, you make silly accusations. You actually believe that the most corrupt bibles and manuscripts are the most trustworthy!

Your "proof" that the TR is the best text, and Kjv best translation, is mere circular reasoning!

 

[Enoch111]

The Kjv is corrupted also!

Well then you are no Jesus Fan. Even the Muslims will never say that the Koran is corrupt. But they will say what you have just said. So shame on you for saying you are a Jesus Fan when you call His Word "corrupt".

 

[JesusFan1]

God can use men despite their own intentions or plans. God used the evil of Joseph's brothers done towards Joseph for a greater plan for good in the end. Saul's men who were after David had prophesied against their own wishes or plans. God made Jonah to go back to the city of Nineveh despite his own desires.

So God has a way of doing things despite our current desires or actions. So the KJB Preface is not a good argument when we look at the Bible in how God uses men despite their intentions.

So you deny that the 1611 translators knew better what they had created then you Kjvo do now 4 centuries removed?

 

[Naomanos]

Today: I believe God always answers in a way that backs up Scripture in some way or that leads us to look to His Word in some form. Why? Because God magnifies His Word above His own name. God wants us to do His will according to Scripture.

And that's fine. However, there is nothing in the Bible against modern versions of the Bible. I have done His will, by praying and receiving by faith His answer to a prayer.

Your beliefs are not binding on me.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

The Kjvo really do see the Kjv as having authority over the Hebrew and Greek texts, as they hold that better to translate off the Kjv then those original language texts!

Well, I believe the texts we do have that lines up with the KJB says the same thing. But those words in italics in the KJB that were added for clarity (Which would be like words in brackets that are not really there but yet are there). These italicized words were simply what God was doing in Jeremiah 36:28 and Jeremiah 36:32.

Again, God added many like words to the copy that was to replace the original Scripture.
So God can edit His own words.

The italicized words were added because God is not the author of confusion. 2 Samuel 21:19 is a great example of this. The words [brother of] were added to align with what 1 Chronicles 20:5 says. Yet, Modern bibles like the NASB simply confuses the issue and leaves these words out making us believe that Elhanan killed Goliath when it really was Elhanan killed the brother of Goliath.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

So you deny that the 1611 translators knew better what they had created then you Kjvo do now 4 centuries removed?

These men were highly educated beyond any scholar today. Take for example: The accomplishments of Lancelot Andrews. He was certainly a superior KJV translator. He had mastered fifteen languages. If you are truly interested, you can learn more about the other translators and their superior credentials to that of Modern day scholars here.

But in any event, I am saying that God used the KJB translators to providentially guide them through time as one of the purifications in accomplishing His seven purification process of His words according to Psalms 12:6-7. See, God does not always operate like man does or thinks like man does. God does not have to get men to agree with what He is doing in His bigger plan.

I don't believe the KJB translators knew that God was using them to create a purified Word. For they are not God to truly know God's greater plan in preserving His words for us today.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

the Bible cannot be accurately translated into English

“But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.” (Matthew 19:26)

 

[Bible Highlighter]

So you deny that the 1611 translators knew better what they had created then you Kjvo do now 4 centuries removed?

I hold to the possibility that the seven different purifications (Psalms 12:6-7) of the different seven KJB Editions were not errors exactly but they were improvements in clarity of what God wanted to say. In either case, it does not change the fact that we have a perfectly preserved Word of God that we can hold in our hands today and speak with authority from.

For that's what this is really about. The authority of God's Word.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Here again is the seven purifications / seven KJB editions viewpoint (Just in case somebody has missed it):

www.bibleprotector.com/forum • View topic - Seven major purifications of the KJB

 

[Bible Highlighter]

And that's fine. However, there is nothing in the Bible against modern versions of the Bible. I have done His will, by praying and receiving by faith His answer to a prayer.

Your beliefs are not binding on me.

Everything I say on the Bible I strive to speak in line with what the Bible actually says. But we can agree to disagree in love and respect and move on (if you prefer).

May God's good ways shine upon you greatly even if we disagree strongly on this topic.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

If you were to compare the KJB vs. Modern Bibles: The real issue is if you were to see that various doctrines are watered down and outright attacked (if doctrine is important to you).

Amen. Sound Doctrine Is Very Important, As CHRIST
Revealed To our apostle, Paul:

Tit 2:1 "But speak thou the things which become Sound Doctrine:"

Amen?

Thus, modern "scholarship" is no different than the FIVE-fold deceit,
that occurred in the Beginning, which, In Biblical Fact:

1) Questions God's Word!; 2) Adds to IT!; 3) Takes Away From IT!;
4) Waters IT down!; And, 5) DENIES IT!:

More here:
Brother Rodney Beaulieu's Excellent KJV Series

This brother believes In The ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Of CHRIST,
and appropriately wonders, and asks ALL preachers:

WHY would they "preach/teach from bibles that Omit And DENY"
This Most Important Sound Doctrine Of:

The Precious BLOOD Of our Wonderful SAVIOUR?

My earnest plea:
Brothers and sisters (Bought By HIS BLOOD), Please, don’t
settle for anything less than God’s PERFECT Words.

GRACE And Peace...

 

[Taken]

@Nancy

I don't mind corrections when all the words and verses are there. What I take issue with is in the modern versions that used the Alexandrian codices, by leaving out key words, the whole meaning of the verse is altered. And in their margins they write that it is the translations like the KJV that added words, when in reality (seeing as church fathers quoted those 'added' words (???) before the Alexandrian codices were created, it is more likely the Alexandrians subtracted words to fit some doctrine they had issue with (like the Trinity).

KJV (King James Version)

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


NASB (New American Standard Bible

1 John 5:7 For there are three that testify:

Romans 8:1 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

KJV 1611
1 John 5:
[7] For there are three that beare record in heauen, the Father, the Word, and the holy Ghost: and these three are one.

KJV 1611
Romans 8:
[1] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Iesus, who walke not after the flesh, but after the spirit.

 

[Taken]

Sure does change the message. I would love to get a 1611 KJV.

If you do not have a hard copy of 1611 KJV, it is available online.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[JesusFan1]

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And are you proficient in these languages?

Enough to read

 

[JesusFan1]

It does not prove your case. In order for you to prove your case, you need testimony from a bona-fide prophet sent from God who declared that he personally superintended the production of the KJV. You can't do that. So your claim is bogus and safely ignored.

The Holy Spirit has never inspired any translation