The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

[marks]

a theologically uneducated, myopic Fundamentalist Ghetto, whose intellectually suffocating atmosphere makes it impossible to breathe the fresh air of honest and open inquiry

This says so much more about you than it does @ScottA .

 

[Marymog]

Typical blathering carnal nonsense. Pfff

Is that not the pot calling the kettle black?

I signed up on a website to have a daily joke sent to my email. I unsubscribed from that website. Now I just login to Christianityboard and read what you have written for my daily joke.

Mary

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL, per usual you speaking for others is a fail.

Yes - your usual response after I've exposed your ignorance . . .

Your consistent rejection of Scripture and Advocation of Philosophies of men, is old and boring. Yawn.
There was no “16th century Protestant invention” <—- LOL as you claim.
However there was a beginning rise and continuing rise in LITERACY!

Yes,your uninformed response for my trounding of the unbiblical Protestabt invention of Sola Scriptura is noted.

Stop your old worn out accusations and whining...Some people Choose to take advantage of Reading Scripture for themselves, rather than be (like you) robotically trained to sit and be indoctrinated by generations of Philosophical men dictating what to believe.

READING Scripture is not the problem.

Perverting it is where the problem lies - and Protestantism has done this to the tyne of tens of thousands of perpetually-splintering sects that ALL teach different doctrines based on some guy's personal interpretations. The funny thing is that you ALL believe that the Holy Spirit "led" you to this confusion.

Ths is nothing more than the modern day Tower of Babel . . .

 

[ScottA]

You wrote an entire book.....thousands of words I presume....about Einstein but you can't answer a simple question?

Let's try again: When 65 Protestants agrees with The Church they are "collaborators"! What are they if they agree with YOU?

What is this...elementary school English class?

col·lab·o·ra·tor
/kəˈlabəˌrādər/
Learn to pronounce

noun
plural noun: collaborators

1. 1.
   a person who works jointly on an activity or project; an associate.

Let me rephrase that... We both know the definition of the word "collaborators"...so what's your real question? Or better yet...what are you trying to say? And when a person really has something to say, but asks a question instead, what is that called? It's called an "ulterior motive."

Now that we understand one another-- spit it out, lets have it. What's your point?

 

[ScottA]

Those 65 Protestant scholars just spoke for the modern scholarly consensus, secular and Christian, as evident from the majority views of professors who attend the largest and most prestigious Bible conference in the world, the annual meetings of The Society of Biblical Literature. Scott A. on the other hand is trapped in a theologically uneducated, myopic Fundamentalist Ghetto, whose intellectually suffocating atmosphere makes it impossible to breathe the fresh air of honest and open inquiry.

That is quite a mouth full. Worth quoting. Might just get you cut out of the will.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

And this is precisely the type of NONSENSE that is indiccative of a beginner’s understanding of Scripture.
Perhaps another Bible Lesson is needed here . . .

First of all – James NEVER says that ALL sin is the same – or as YOU pu it, “stealing is just as evil as murdering someone”.

James was making the point that according to the LAW (Mosaic Law) if you break ANY of it – you have violated the Law. NOWHERE does he say that every aspect of the Law is that same – because some violations require DEATH, while others don’t.

He states:
James 2:11
For he who said, “Do not commit adultery,” said also, “Do not kill.” If you do not commit adultery but do kill, you have become a transgressor of the law.

James was writing to JEWISH Christians, so context is key.
Remember what Jesus said about sin:

Matt. 5:19:
Whoever then relaxes (breaks) one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus is teaching that are indeed “least commandments” that someone can break - and even teach others to do so – and STILL remain in the kingdom of heaven.

HOWEVER, as few verses later, He teaches that there are other sins that will make us “liable to the hell of fire” (Matt. 5: 22). In Matt. 5:28-28, Jesus states that the sin of adultery can land you in hell.
Matt. 12:32 is about the “unforgiveable sin" against the Holy Spirit which is a damnable offense.

In I John 5:16-18, John ALSO differentiates between lesser sins (venial) and sin that causes death (mortal).

So, YOUR claim that ALL sin is the “same” is just another 16th century man-made invention – similar to the unbiblical doctrines of Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide from the same period.

You're not going to get anywhere in this discussion by playing the "James was talking to Jewish Christians" game. All Scripture applies to all Christians of any period. So says the Christ you claim to worship(Matt. 4:4) and Paul (2 Tim. 3:16-17). They didn't give one set of theology to Jews and then give an entirely different theology to Gentiles. I realize that it's the kind of hogwash Catholics and Protestants are brainwashed into believing, but that's not what the Bible shows.

 

[Taken]

Is that not the pot calling the kettle black?

I signed up on a website to have a daily joke sent to my email. I unsubscribed from that website. Now I just login to Christianityboard and read what you have written for my daily joke.

Mary

Thanks for sharing my posts can reverse your frown.

 

[Taken]

Protestabt invention of Sola Scriptura is noted.

Accrediting the Protestants with following the Bible....
AWESOME!!

READING

Scripture is not the problem.

As I said, Reading WAS and Bible availability WAS a historical problem...
but literacy and Bible availability and affordability....
Became an AWESOME Blessing for Protestants!

Perverting it is where the problem lies -

It’s great to KNOW upfront the Rules of A Protestant Church...
Rather than the Confusion of some 250+ Historical papal guys making up ever changing rules...AS IF the Word of God is at their discretion...lol

Ths is nothing more than the modern day Tower of Babel . . .

Clearly different, Rock building ON Christ or a pebble.

 

[Taken]

This says so much more about you than it does @ScottA .

Nothing new.
Gas-lighters start a flame in hopes to deflect from their own ineptness.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You're not going to get anywhere in this discussion by playing the "James was talking to Jewish Christians" game. All Scripture applies to all Christians of any period. So says the Christ you claim to worship(Matt. 4:4) and Paul (2 Tim. 3:16-17). They didn't give one set of theology to Jews and then give an entirely different theology to Gentiles. I realize that it's the kind of hogwash Catholics and Protestants are brainwashed into believing, but that's not what the Bible shows.

And where did I say that the Epistle of James was ONLY for Jewish Christians??

I said that the CONTEXT of James is that he is speaking to Jewish Chrisitnas so undeerstood that there IS a diversity of sin according to the Law - regardless of what you Protestants believe. Cathollics understand this - and Scripture teaches it.

So the quwstion is:
Why do Protestants regard ALL sin as equal - when the Bible clearly doesn't.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Accrediting the Protestants with following the Bible....
AWESOME!!

SAD, actually, when all you've done is pervert it.

As I said, Reading WAS and Bible availability WAS a historical problem...
but literacy and Bible availability and affordability....
Became an AWESOME Blessing for Protestants!

No, it became confusion for Protestants - to the tune of tens of thousands of perpetually-splintering sects with different and competing doctreins - because too many pridefun MEN with ideas of their own sought to re-invent the Church.

It’s great to KNOW upfront the Rules of A Protestant Church...
Rather than the Confusion of some 250+ Historical papal guys making up ever changing rules...AS IF the Word of God is at their discretion...lol

We DO know the "rules" up front. It's called the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Einstein. And EVERY teaching within ut is backed by Scripture and Sacred Tradition *2 Thess. 2:15),

The fact that YOU frequest a theolofical debate site ike thids a- nd yet, are completely ignorant of this fact is pathetic . . .

Clearly different, Rock building ON Christ or a pebble.

And clearly, in the depths of your Biblical ignorance - you missed the point.
The Tower of Babel was built on confusion - as are the tens of thousands of PRotestant splinter sects.

 

[Cassandra]

The 2nd commandment is different between the RCC and the Protestants.

 

[Taken]

...competing doctreins - because too many pridefun MEN with ideas of their own sought to re-invent the Church.

Yes, the Catholic Church....competes with the Doctrine of Christ...re-inventing Christ’s Church to be the Catholic Church.

Jer 9:
[3] And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.

We DO know the "rules" up front. It's called the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Einstein. And EVERY teaching within ut is backed by Scripture and Sacred Tradition *2 Thess. 2:15),

Protestant Teaching:
~~ John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
~~ Eph 4:
[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
~~ Matt 23:
[9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
~~ Matt 16:
[18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
~~ Luke 17:
[21] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
~~ 1 John 3:
[5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
~~ Ex 20:
[4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Catholic Teaching:
~ Catholic Word Catechism Doctrine
~ Catholic Fathers
~ Catholic Infallibility
~ Catholic Supremacy
~ Catholic Church
~ Catholic Idols
~ Catholic Bowing Down before graven images
...........and then along came “SINLESS” (taught) Mary! and a whole NEW Catholic man-made Doctrine..

We DO know the "rules" up front. It's called the Catechism of the Catholic Church,

Catholic Catechism “changed” how many times....? Hundreds!

The fact that YOU frequest a theolofical debate ...

LOL...There IS NO DEBATE...There IS DISAGREEMENT...
The Catholic Standing IS CLEAR....their standing is UPON the Created.
The Protestant Sanding IS CLEAR..their standing is IN the Creator.

 

[Illuminator]

The 2nd commandment is different between the RCC and the Protestants.

Our 10 Commandments do not differ from the Protestant version in content, there is simply a difference in how they are organized. The Protestants first two commandments are:
1) I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any false gods before me;
2) Thou shalt not make any graven images…you shall not bow down to them or serve them.
And, their last commandment is simply: Thou shalt not covet.

The first two commandments, Catholic version are:
1) I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any false gods before me;
2) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
And, our last two commandments are:
9) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife;
10) Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.

So, the Protestants combine our #9 and #10, into their #10. While we combine the Protestants’ #1 and #2, into our #1. Now, some folks say that the Catholics purposely leave out the graven image reference that we find in Protestant Commandment #2 so that we can worship our statues and all that kind of rot. Which is probably what Casandra was getting at, but you can take anyone to page 496 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and show them that we did not leave out the prohibition on worshiping graven images.

In the left hand column of that page, you will see the whole first commandment written out just like it appears in Exodus 20. You have the long version on the left, the shorter version in the middle, and the traditional version for catechesis on the right. Notice the mention of graven images under Commandment #1?

In essence, we simply don’t write the whole thing out, because we know that bowing down to (worshiping) graven images falls under: “Thou shalt not have any false gods before me.” Just so, the Protestants shorten the commandment about coveting. Go to page 497 of the Catechism (or to Exodus 20) and see all the things that are included in the, "Thou shalt not covet," section. The Protestants don’t write out all those things, they just say, "Thou shalt not covet."

Does that mean they left out part of the Commandments so that they could indeed covet some things? No. It’s understood that “Thou shalt not covet,” covers all of those things. Just like Catholics understand that, “Thou shalt not have any false gods before me,” means that we should not worship idols, or graven images, as false gods.

Furthermore, guess who wrote a catechism that had the first and second Commandments exactly the same as the Catholics do? Martin Luther. That’s right, Martin Luther, in his “Small Catechism” (which was a catechism meant primarily for children), listed the first two commandments in the exact same way Catholics do. Yet, do Protestants ever complain about Martin Luther changing the Ten Commandments?
I don’t think so.

Did the Catholic Church Change the Ten Commandments?

 

[Enoch111]

We DO know the "rules" up front. It's called the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Einstein. And EVERY teaching within it is backed by Scripture and Sacred Tradition *2 Thess. 2:15),

When Scripture is misapplied and misrepresented, it simply produces false doctrines. And the CCC is full of false teachings. Thus we find the fiction of Purgatory in the CCC:

1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.604 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. the tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:605

Except that the texts of Scripture which they use DO NOT refer to Purgatory at all! That word is not found in the Bible even once.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes, the Catholic Church....competes with the Doctrine of Christ...re-inventing Christ’s Church to be the Catholic Church.

Jer 9:
[3] And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.

Leave it to YOU, in the depths of your ignorance, to use a verse of Scripture that is completely irrelevant to the Catholic Church as an entiry.

But - what can one expect from a hater of God's Word?

Protestant Teaching:
~~ John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
~~ Eph 4:
[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
~~ Matt 23:
[9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
~~ Matt 16:
[18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
~~ Luke 17:
[21] Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
~~ 1 John 3:
[5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
~~ Ex 20:
[4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

These are ALL Catholic teachings because it was the Catholic Church who gave YOU the Canon of the New Testament.

The fact that YOU have perverted it is something YOU will have to answer to GOD for . . .

Catholic Teaching:
~ Catholic Word Catechism Doctrine
~ Catholic Fathers
~ Catholic Infallibility
~ Catholic Supremacy
~ Catholic Church
~ Catholic Idols
~ Catholic Bowing Down before graven images
...........and then along came “SINLESS” (taught) Mary! and a whole NEW Catholic man-made Doctrine..

~ Catholic Word Catechism Doctrine - What's THAT?
~ Catholic Fathers - Who passed the teachings of the Apostles onto us.
~ Catholic Infallibility - Infallibility of the HOLY SPIRIT as spoken through His Church.
~ Catholic Supremacy - God-given Supremem Authority (Matt. 18:18-18, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21023).
~ Catholic Church - Christ's Catholic Church.
~ Catholic Idols - NO such thing.
~ Catholic Bowing Down before graven images - NO such thing.
...........and then along came “SINLESS” (taught) Mary! and a whole NEW Catholic man-made Doctrine.. - Anothing BIBLICAL teaching (Luke 1:28) .
Catholic Catechism “changed” how many times....? - And yet not ONE doctrine has changed. And "Hunfreds"?? PROOF, please . . .

LOL...There IS NO DEBATE...There IS DISAGREEMENT...
The Catholic Standing IS CLEAR....their standing is UPON the Created.
The Protestant Sanding IS CLEAR..their standing is IN the Creator.

There is MO unified Protestant stance.
It is a never-ending gaggle og peerpetually-splintering sects that disagree with each other - and each sect isbased IN each splinter's founder.

 

[BreadOfLife]

When Scripture is misapplied and misrepresented, it simply produces false doctrines. And the CCC is full of false teachings. Thus we find the fiction of Purgatory in the CCC:

1031 The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.604 The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the Councils of Florence and Trent. the tradition of the Church, by reference to certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:605

Except that the texts of Scripture which they use DO NOT refer to Purgatory at all! That word is not found in the Bible even once.

If you're looking for the WORD, "Purgatory" - you're right. It's NOT in Scripture.
HOWEVER, neither is "Incarnation", "Trinity" - or even "Bible".

The TEACHING about Final purificatioon (Purgatory) IS in Scripture . . .

Scriptural support for Purgatory includes:
‐ Praying for the dead ‐ 2 Macc. 42‐46, 2 Timothy 1:18
- Suffering and being released ‐ Matt. 5:25‐26, Matt. 18:32‐35, Luke 12:58‐59, 1 Cor. 3:12‐15
- God as the Refiner – Mal. 3:3, Jer. 6:27‐30, Ezek. 22:18, Psalm 119:119, Psalm 37:20, Zech. 13:9, Isa. 48:10

In 1 Cor. 3:10‐15, this is how the process of Final Purification is described:
"According to the grace of God given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But each one must be careful how he builds upon it, for no one can lay a foundation other than the one that is there, namely, Jesus Christ. If anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, the work of each will come to light, for the Day (judgment) will disclose it. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each one’s work. If the work stands that someone built upon the foundation, that person will receive a wage. But if someone’s work is burned up, that one WILL SUFFER LOSS; the person WILL be saved, but only as through fire."

- This cannot be Heaven because the person will SUFFER ‐ and there is NO suffering in Heaven.
- This cannot be Hell because the person will be SAVED ‐ ad there is NO salvation in Hell.
- This is describing a THIRD state – a state of Final Purification.

Matt. 5:25‐26 tells us that unless we have settled our matters, we will be “handed over to the prison guard and will not be released until we have paid the last penny.”

Additionally, Matt. 12:32 states, “whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age OR in the age to come”, which indicates that there IS purification after death for some.
Matt. 18:32‐35 and Luke 12:58‐59 are additional verses that support this doctrine.


YOUR turn . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus asked His Disciples WHO men thought He was.
Jesus asked His Disciples WHO they thought He was.
None could give Jesus the CORRECT ANSWER.

Jesus identified Simon Barajona as being BLESSED BECAUSE God Himself gave Simon Barajona the CORRECT ANSWER.

Simon Barajona spoke aloud the CORRECT ANSWER God gave him.
It is the CORRECT ANSWER UPON WHICH JESUS IS BUILDING HIS CHURCH!
The ROCK, is Christ is the HEAD, and FOUNDATION Rock of Jesus’ Church.

Jesus’ Church is built upon;
Jesus is the Christ the Son of the Living God.

Jesus’ TWELVE appointed are the First to be established joined members of Jesus’ Church Spiritual Church, as a mason would build stone upon stone, adding more stones upon stones, every member joining Christ Jesus’ Spiritual Church being added, BINDED, as stones upon stones. BINDED together on Earth as they shall be BINDED together in Heaven, while others who are NOT members shall be LOOSED.


"Protestants build their Churches upon their Rock, called Christ.



MALARKEY!
The first of Christ Jesus’ Church is Christ the Rock. The first Apostle added was Simon Peter, thereafter the rest of the Apostles, thereafter others Converted “IN” Christ. Stones upon Stones of the Rock.

Your church is upon one man Peter, one rock, and a secession of other men “your church” takes credit of being “THE” Church, without credit due it is Christ’s Church.
“Your church” appoints men as as holy fathers, without credit due it is God who is the Holy Father.
“Your church” has transferred all that is Christ Jesus’ into the hands of men, making due to them the credit that is Christ Jesus’.
And when your “church fathers” are found underhanded, corrupt, deceitful, their deeds are hidden and “your church” continues exalting itself.

I am not in defiance of Christ Jesus. I am WITH and IN Christ Jesus, doing the WILL of the Holy Father who knows the Truth.

Yes indeed my friend . I want us all to take heed to this simple reminder again .
BUT WHOM do you say that I am . YE are the CHRIST of GOD . BLESSED are you simeon
MY FATHER revealed this too you . SO why is the pope and more and more protestants allowing
other religoins to die in their religoin and saying things like if they love and do good then GOD is with them
and in them . Cause THE HOLY GHOST , I SAY , LEADS US TO JESUS CHRIST . BLESSED are the lambs
for the SPIRIT of GOD has drawn them to JESUS CHRIST .
SO my question again is , WHY would anyone of us ever once sit and this huge UNITY table
and break bread and have unity with , That HARLOT who sold JESUS OUT . My advice . DONT . RUN
and let none look back . Let us cling to CHRIST and let us say bodly to all , REPENT AND BELEIVE the GOSPLE
for FAITH IN JESUS is the ONLY THING GONNA save you . Let us go out the way the early church came in .
Preaching and pointing ONLY TO JESUS . ONLY TO HIM . AND Let us not sit at this table of false unity and false love
which is leading and will lead all astray WHO do so . FORWARD MARCH , its gonna get real ugly against us and soon .
Already i have lots of christendom who have come against me , Cuase i wont let them beleive this universal religoin lie .
NOPE . FAITH IN JESUS . FAITH IN JESUS . YOU must beleive in HIM
and allow me HIS own parting words .
HE who beleives in me shall be saved , but HE who believes NOT is CONDEMNED ALREADY . AS JESUS own words
they will ring TRUE FOREVER . LET not one foot be taken into this all inclusive LIE . NO sirs and no mams .
SUFFER FOR JESUS , preach the glorious truth of the ONE and only LIFE SAVING GOSPEL
and be prepared to be hated for our love . BUT IT IS the ONLY GOSPEL that can save . Take it to the end my friend no matter the cost .
Let us cling to CHRIST and be hearers and doers of all that our glorious LORD did teach and say . And let all
that has breath , praise and thank , and do so continuously , THE GLORIOUS LORD .
O world and religoins and most all of christendom , CHOOSE YE THIS DAY whom ye shall serve
whether it be the all inclusive lie or the one true GOSPLE OF JESUS . BUT as for the lambs WE GONNA PREACH JESUS and not the lie .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The 2nd commandment is different between the RCC and the Protestants.
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The FIRST thing you need to remember about the Commandments is that they are NOT numbered in the Bible – either in Exodus 20, where they first appear – or in Deut. 5, where they are reiterated.
Numbering them is a man-made addition.

In the Catholic listing, the 2nd Commandment of “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain” is different from the Protestant version of “You shall not make unto thee any graven images”?

In Exodus 20, where we first see the list of Commandments, we read in verses 3 and 5 that this is NOT simply a Commandment against the making of statues and images. It is clearly talking about not making gods out of them and not bowing to and and serving them. The Church has always condemned this practice as well.

If this were a Commandment against the creation of images and statues, then God would have violated His own law by commanding Moses just a few chapters later to create 2 golden images of Cherubim to place atop the Ark (Exod. 25:18-22). This hypocrisy would have also extended to commanding Moses later on to create a bronze serpent and place it on a pole so that those who looked upon it would be healed (Num. 21:8-9).

We also read other examples of God being pleased with the creation of statues (I Kings 6:23-28, 9:3). When we read those verses in context, we see that God’s prohibition is against making idols to worship and not the creation of images. This is ALL covered in the Catholic rendering of the first Commandment about having “other gods”.

If you were to count all of the “You shalls" and "You shall nots” alongside the other two that command the keeping of the Sabbath and honoring your father and mother – you would wind up with at least thirteen.

As to the LAST Commandment - in Deute. 5, we see another version of the list. Here, we see a clear distinction between a man’s wife and his property. A different word for the desire of a man’s property is used than that of the desire for his wife.

Chamad (תחמד), is used to describe the coveting a man’s wife as opposed to 'Avah (תתאוה), which is used to describe the desire for a man’s property. Chamad has a connotation of sexual desire and lust, whereas, ‘Avah means to crave or to be greedy for something material.

We now see that there are two different Commandments here and not one jumbled, all-inclusive commandment. Remember also that, in Gen. 2:24, God declared that, in the union between a husband and wife, the two become ONE flesh.
Jesus reiterates this fact in Mark 10:8.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes indeed my friend . I want us all to take heed to this simple reminder again . BUT WHOM do you say that I am . YE are the CHRIST of GOD . BLESSED are you simeon MY FATHER revealed this too you . SO why is the pope and more and more protestants allowing other religoins to die in their religoin and saying things like if they love and do good then GOD is with them and in them . Cause THE HOLY GHOST , I SAY , LEADS US TO JESUS CHRIST . BLESSED are the lambs for the SPIRIT of GOD has drawn them to JESUS CHRIST .
SO my question again is , WHY would anyone of us ever once sit and this huge UNITY table and break bread and have unity with , That HARLOT who sold JESUS OUT . My advice . DONT . RUN
and let none look back . Let us cling to CHRIST and let us say bodly to all , REPENT AND BELEIVE the GOSPLE
for FAITH IN JESUS is the ONLY THING GONNA save you . Let us go out the way the early church came in .
Preaching and pointing ONLY TO JESUS . ONLY TO HIM . AND Let us not sit at this table of false unity and false love
which is leading and will lead all astray WHO do so . FORWARD MARCH , its gonna get real ugly against us and soon .
Already i have lots of christendom who have come against me , Cuase i wont let them beleive this universal religoin lie .
NOPE . FAITH IN JESUS . FAITH IN JESUS . YOU must beleive in HIM
and allow me HIS own parting words .
HE who beleives in me shall be saved , but HE who believes NOT is CONDEMNED ALREADY . AS JESUS own words
they will ring TRUE FOREVER . LET not one foot be taken into this all inclusive LIE . NO sirs and no mams .
SUFFER FOR JESUS , preach the glorious truth of the ONE and only LIFE SAVING GOSPEL
and be prepared to be hated for our love . BUT IT IS the ONLY GOSPEL that can save . Take it to the end my friend no matter the cost .
Let us cling to CHRIST and be hearers and doers of all that our glorious LORD did teach and say . And let all
that has breath , praise and thank , and do so continuously , THE GLORIOUS LORD .
O world and religoins and most all of christendom , CHOOSE YE THIS DAY whom ye shall serve
whether it be the all inclusive lie or the one true GOSPLE OF JESUS . BUT as for the lambs WE GONNA PREACH JESUS and not the lie .

Oh, good grief - the confusion and ignorance never ceases around here . . .