The 1st century way to be saved via water and Spirit baptism

[Truther]

There are no unbelievers that are saved EVER!!!!

Right, thus they must believe then be baptized per Mark 16:16.

 

[mailmandan]

Phillip in Acts understood Mark 16:16.

He required the eunuch to believe before baptism.

Modernists require belief OR unbelief before baptism?

Is this how they process unbelievers getting baptized per Mark 16:16?

You need to place your faith in the Savior God and not the water god.

 

[Truther]

If water baptism is absolutely required for salvation, then why did Jesus not mention it in the following verses? (3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26).

What is the ONE requirement that Jesus mentions 9 different times in each of these complete statements? *BELIEVES. *What happened to baptism? *Hermeneutics.

Jesus had not died yet.

Acts 2:38 was the fulfillment of the great commission.

Prior to his death, they were not required to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of the sins.

The testator had to die to institute the New Testament.

You are stuck in the wrong Testament.

 

[Truther]

You need to place your faith in the Savior God and not the water god.

Acts 2:38 represents a water god to you?

Okay, is Jesus' name a name god?

 

[Truther]

Is repentance a repentance god?

Is receiving the Holy Ghost a spirit god?

 

[Truther]

LOL!! Who does not know that millions of unbelievers have been baptized just to please their mothers,girl friends, and such ??? Think!

They did not believe?

How did you know?

Did you ask?

 

[mailmandan]

Jesus had not died yet.

Acts 2:38 was the fulfillment of the great commission.

Prior to his death, they were not required to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of the sins.

The testator had to die to institute the New Testament.

You are stuck in the wrong Testament.

So you are saying that prior to acts 2:38, baptism was not required for salvation but afterwards it is?

John the Baptist was prior to the death of Jesus and in Mark 1:4, we read that he was preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

So was John’s baptism for “in order to obtain” the remission of sins *in contradiction to your argument* or was his baptism for “in regards to/on the basis of” remission of sins receive upon repentance?

 

[Truther]

So you are saying that prior to acts 2:38, baptism was not required for salvation but afterwards it is?

John the Baptist was prior to the death of Jesus and in Mark 1:4, we read that he was preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

So was John’s baptism for “in order to obtain” the remission of sins in contradiction to your argument or was his baptism for “in regards to/on the basis of” remission of sins receive upon repentance?

I am saying that Acts 2:38 was the official NT requirement for salvation.

Jesus gave them the Holy Ghost and power to remit sins etc at Acts 2.

Prior to that, the testator had not died and they were stuck in the previous testament.

This is precisely why we don't have to self amputate etc, to be saved as in the OT.

 

[mailmandan]

Acts 2:38 represents a water god to you?

Okay, is Jesus' name a name god?

Trusting in plain ordinary H2O to save you over trusting in Jesus Christ alone to save you is trusting in a water god. You need to trust exclusively in the Savior God to save you through faith in Him. Faith in H20 does not save. You remain deceived.

 

[Truther]

Would you rather pluck out your eye per Jesus' OT words when you see a hot chick or be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of your sins per NT?

 

[Truther]

Trusting in plain ordinary H2O to save you over trusting in Jesus Christ alone to save you is trusting in a water god. You need to trust exclusively in the Savior God to save you through faith in Him. Faith in H20 does not save. You remain deceived.

You still don't get it Dan.

It is not the water, but the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST invoked while in the water.

That is how our sins are remitted...by invoking the name of the very person we all murdered while in the water.

This justifies Jesus.

 

[mailmandan]

You still don't get it Dan.

It is not the water, but the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST invoked while in the water.

That is how our sins are remitted...by invoking the name of the very person we all murdered while in the water.

This justifies Jesus.

Now you sound like a Oneness Penecostal.

 

[Truther]

Now you sound like a Oneness Penecostal.

I am not.

However, they got it right concerning Acts 2:38.

 

[mailmandan]

I am not.

However, they got it right concerning Acts 2:38.

Multiple false religions and cults would agree with your interpretation of Acts 2:38. Can you say, “red flag?”

 

[Behold]

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[Behold]

Tongues follows the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Jesus never spoke in tongues, and you'll note this if you read a New Testament.

Also, being born again, this spiritual birth, is not caused by water, and water is not required.

Here is what God requires to give you the new birth...(Born again)

= "The will of God is that you BELIEVE on Jesus.....whom GOD sent'.<<

"all that call on the name of Jesus, shall be SAVED"..."Saved" = born again spiritually.

Jesus said..>"all that believe in me, i give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish".

Now what is missing in all that?

A.) Water.

 

[Truther]

Multiple false religions and cults would agree with your interpretation of Acts 2:38. Can you say, “red flag?”

Would Peter agree with this?...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Truther]

Jesus never spoke in tongues, and you'll note this if you read a New Testament.

Also, being born again, this spiritual birth, is not caused by water, and water is not required.

Here is what God requires to give you the new birth...(Born again)

= "The will of God is that you BELIEVE on Jesus.....whom GOD sent'.<<

"all that call on the name of Jesus, shall be SAVED"..."Saved" = born again spiritually.

Jesus said..>"all that believe in me, i give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish".

Now what is missing in all that?

A.) Water.

Wait...

Jesus never spoke in tongues..correct.

Those that Jesus entered into spoke in tongues.

This happened at Pentecost(Acts 2).

This was when the NT started.

This is where we start.

We are not required to pluck out our eyes since Acts 2:38 became our remission of sins.

Aren't you glad about that?

 

[Truther]

Multiple false religions and cults would agree with your interpretation of Acts 2:38. Can you say, “red flag?”

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


Is this a red flag to Peter or modernists?

 

[Behold]

Wait...

Jesus never spoke in tongues..correct.

Those that Jesus entered into spoke in tongues.

This happened at Pentecost(Acts 2).

Peter was not water baptized in Acts 2:38.
Do you realize this?
Neither where any in the "upper room:., yet they all were filled with the Spirit of God.....except for Peter, who had already received it in John 20:22.

And when you read that, take note that He was not water baptized to receive it.

So, anytime you want to end the Jehovah's Witness, "Cult of the Virgin', nonsense... that teaches that Water is what God requires to save you, then free to stop.
After all, why teach a lie on a Christian forum?