When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

[dad]

So be it.

 

[Truth7t7]

You have no say, nor do you know the truth.

You accusation is false, and a direct personal attack

Jesus Is The Lord "Truth"

 

[ScottA]

You accusation is false, and a direct personal attack

Jesus Is The Lord

No, not direct...but only in response. See...you can't even continue to attack without being untrue.

Are you trying to get kicked off the forum?

 

[CadyandZoe]

We disagree, the pharisees spoke of a "Literal" temple in destruction, and John gave the Lords definition of the temple being talked about, it was the temple of his body

Your apparent belief is as that of the pharisees, it's not a "Literal" temple to be destroyed, it's very simple and clearly before your eyes

John 2:19-22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

I get what you are saying, but I'm not sure you got my point. Jesus isn't talking about destroying the temple; he is talking about raising the temple back up after it was destroyed. See?

 

[Truth7t7]

No, not direct...but only in response. See...you can't ever continue to attack without being untrue.

Are you trying to get kicked off the forum?

Your claims of myself attacking is false, of course you want to see your opposition gone, in building a false narrative, nothing new

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[ScottA]

Your claims of myself attack are false, of course you want to see your opposition gone, in building a false narrative, nothing new

Jesus Is The Lord

Na, na, na...I quoted you. You're on record.

 

[Truth7t7]

Na, na, na...I quoted you. You're on record.

False claim, building a false narrative in trying to remove your opposition, I have attacked nobody as you falsely claim .......

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[MatthewG]

Hello to you,

It’s better to live in Christ victory, and trust him to have told the truth to his apostles and his apostles to the churches that were written too, putting trust in the full victory and Jesus told the truth about coming to those people in that day. To me seems more freeing that I’m not held down to anything and can be used freely by the spirit.

Just my thoughts on that subject,
In peace, kindness, love, of Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks. Your statement affirms your belief that the Son of Man has already returned yet you have not seen Him, which is contradictory to His Return.

When the Son of Man left Earth He promised the “unseen” Holy Spirit would come “IN”to Faithful Converted men, Be With such men forever and Be their comfort and peace, Until the Son of Man returned. That has been in effect for 2,000 years and shall continue Until the Son of Man returns, and Every eye shall see Him. I think you are a bit out of Gods Order and Way. Perhaps review step by step.

Glory to God,
Taken

Hello Taken,

You may freely believe as you desire, thankfully however I’m not the only one who believes like I do nor is it anything new either.

For many it is a matter of subjective thinking and perspective overall.

Anyone who believes that’s Jesus is still going to return in the future may believe subsequently over all when you or me die from this realm being translated from this world into the heavenly realm is where all reside, in my view according to Revelation 22.

Which shows people going into the kingdom, and those who are outside the kingdom Gates.

However you decide to view the end of time, the coming of Christ is up to you, with the use of the scriptures it seems to indicate a generation of people Jesus spoke to, many try to address as though Jesus did know what he was talking about or that the Apsotles either didn’t know what they were talking about And use to the Bible to address those matters.

My belief is that everything happened, that leaves a lot taken care of, where the person who may be a futurist won’t never seen the day of returning back to God except upon death, to be judged.

If a person is pure In heart they shall see God- meaning they shall see God in everything that happens to them as though he is working with them or others.

Just my thoughts on it again,
It doesn’t makes me right, however I can express my viewpoint regardless of what someone else may think,

Thank you for your own thoughts,
In love, peace, patience, kindness, forbearance of Christ,

Matthew Gallagher

- take care to all be encouraged to seek out the answers! -

 

[Truth7t7]

I get what you are saying, but I'm not sure you got my point. Jesus isn't talking about destroying the temple; he is talking about raising the temple back up after it was destroyed. See?

It appears you aren't getting what the scripture clearly states

Jesus stated "Destroy This Temple" and he wasn't speaking of a literal destruction of a temple in Jerusalem

It appears you want to cancel the words "Destroy This Temple", as you mention the resurrection of the Lord, as if it displaces the words spoken, it dosent

The Pharisees were looking at a physical destruction and rebuilding, and the Lord spoke of a "symbolic destruction and rebuilding"

When Jesus died the veil in the temple was rent, God was finished with the literal temple in Jerusalem, it was "Symbolically" destroyed, its that simple

My opinion isnt going to change, we disagree

Jesus Is The Lord

John 2:19-22KJV
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.
22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

 

[Taken]

Hello Taken,

You may freely believe as you desire, thankfully however I’m not the only one who believes like I do nor is it anything new either.

I’m sure. Don’t expect all learning are at the same point.

Anyone who believes that’s Jesus is still going to return in the future may believe subsequently over all when you or me die from this realm being translated from this world into the heavenly realm is where all reside, in my view according to Revelation 22.

Which shows people going into the kingdom, and those who are outside the kingdom Gates.

I do believe scripture is clear, the Son of Man came, left, shall return.
And People do not ascend to Heaven, but souls and spirits of People do ascend to Heaven.

However you decide to view the end of time, the coming of Christ is up to you, with the use of the scriptures it seems to indicate a generation of people Jesus spoke to, many try to address as though Jesus did know what he was talking about or that the Apsotles either didn’t know what they were talking about And use to the Bible to address those matters.

Well it is the Son of Man who shall return, “with” Power.

My belief is that everything happened, that leaves a lot taken care of, where the person who may be a futurist won’t never seen the day of returning back to God except upon death, to be judged.

Many individuals, and many precise situations according to Scripture, regarding that point.

Thank you for your own thoughts,
In love, peace, patience, kindness, forbearance of Christ,

Matthew Gallagher [/QUOTE]

Ditto.

take care to all be encouraged to seek out the answers! -

Many answers in the Scriptural Knowledge. Understanding is From God. :)

 

[MatthewG]

Taken,
Thank you for your kind reply,
In peace, love, joy, of Christ,
Matthew Gallagher

 

[Timtofly]

I assume you mean after the 1000 years.

Nope!

 

[dad]

No.
The Lord descending to the Clouds.
IS NOT.
The Son of Man Returning to the Earth!

Yes and that is the second coming. The coming in the clouds to gather up His Bride is not when He returns to earth. He takes us away from the earth.

 

[dad]

Nope!

What support do you have for this?

 

[Timtofly]

Why even talk about second death when it comes to believers? When you talk about His return you conflate the Rapture with the second coming.

Even Paul conflated the rapture with the Second Coming. We certainly do not rapture at a third coming.

 

[Timtofly]

Adam was made from the dust of the ground ,problem is you don't know why we were made flesh, had satan not rebelled (before Adam)we would not had been.
So no Adam was not in his spiritual body, however at the start of the millennium we all shall be

Of course Adam was created completely in the image of God as a son of God. Satan did not interfere with anything for the first 1,000 years of creation. Just like Satan will not interfere with the last 1,000 years.

 

[dad]

Even Paul conflated the rapture with the Second Coming. We certainly do not rapture at a third coming.

It is a mystery, as Paul said. However some things are known. Such as that when He appears in glory, (the return to earth when He is seen by all) we will be with Him!
Colossians 3:4
When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

 

[dad]

Of course Adam was created completely in the image of God as a son of God. Satan did not interfere with anything for the first 1,000 years of creation. Just like Satan will not interfere with the last 1,000 years.

? You think the last 1000 years was evil free?

 

[n2thelight]

Of course Adam was created completely in the image of God as a son of God. Satan did not interfere with anything for the first 1,000 years of creation. Just like Satan will not interfere with the last 1,000 years.

When did satan fall ,ie, then known as lucifer ?
If you think it happened after man was created flesh , that's a problem