Is The Sheep/Goat Judgement Used, To Enter A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth?

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GISMYS_7

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LOL!!! All foes vanquished by the inspired living Word of God!!!!ptl.
Does God's Word mess up your theology????
 

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Wrath of God===Revelation 16 “Then I heard a loud voice from the temple telling the seven angels, ‘Go and pour out on the earth the seven bowls of the """wrath of God.’""" So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and harmful and painful sores came upon the people who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.
Does God's Word mess up your theology????
All foes vanquished!!!PTL.
 

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Gismy's is a die hard dispensationalist, and follower of the late (Jack Van Impe) smiles!
Passion is great.

But when it doesn't coincide with scripture in the least, it's called delusion.

For this reason God will send them Great Delusion.
2 Thessalonians 2:11
 

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Matthew 25:31-46 is nothing more than a "Parable" to "Herdsmen" using sheep/goats in explanation of the Great White Throne judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15

Yes Matthew 25:46 clearly shows this "final judgement", eternal life, eternal punishment, (The End) with no Millennial Kingdom on this earth following as many claim

Matthew 25:46KJV
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
I need to come back to this
 
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God's wrath=great tribulation===Revelation 16 “Then I heard a loud voice from the temple telling the seven angels, ‘Go and pour out on the earth the seven bowls of the """wrath of God.’""" So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and harmful and painful sores came upon the people who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.
Does God's Word mess up your theology????[/QUOTE]
All foes vanquished!!!PTL. soooooooeasy and fun too!!! Tweak!!
 

GISMYS_7

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God’s WORD


  • “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits
    whether they are of God: because many false prophets
    are gone out into the world.”—1 John 4:1

    “For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but
    as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.”—2 Corinthians 2:17

    • God’s WORD
      “Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of
      these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children
      of disobedience.”—Ephesians 5:6


      “And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.”—Colossians 2:4

      “And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:—1 Corinthians 2:4

      • God’s WORD
        “But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through
        our Lord Jesus Christ.”—1 Corinthians 15:57

        • “He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

          “Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.”—1 Timothy 6:3, 4, 5
          Yes!!Lord!!!
 
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Satan is "Currently" bound

That is a furphy as Isaiah 24:21-22 clearly indicates that the kings of the earth are judged at the same time as the wicked fallen heavenly hosts and that together they will be imprisoned in a pit for many days awaiting the time of their punishment. In Rev 20:1-3 we are told that Satan is imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years and that after that time the bottomless pit is unlocked and the inhabitants of the Bottomless pit at that time are able to come and go from the Bottomless pit.

When does Satan no longer have a place in heaven? Satan is kicked out of heaven at the time of the Armageddon judgement of the kings of the earth, and Satan and the four winds of heaven, i.e. the four beasts that cause the sea of humanity to manifest their respective dominate characteristic, as the sea of humanity ebbs and flows in and out of the influence of the four winds/beasts before they are imprisoned in the Bottomless pit with Satan. The four Beast's judgement of Daniel 7:11-12 and the judgement of the Kings of the earth in Isaiah 24:21-22 both happen at the same time and as soon as Satan and the Beasts and the Little horn land on the face of the earth, they are imprisoned in the Bottomless pit for 1,000 years as we are told in Rev. 20:1-3.

I think it is also time to back out or this thread as the furphy meter has been wound around so many times that the truth can no longer be found.

Shalom

PS: - As per the Book of Hebrews, Christ becomes our "New" high priest when He is given dominion over the peoples of the whole earth such that they should worship Christ. The Rev 20:6 verse tells us that the saints of the first resurrection will serve with Christ as Priests within the heavenly realm during the period that Satan remains imprisoned for 1,000 years.
 

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No such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture, the Church will be present on earth to witness the Man of Sin/Antichrist revealed 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3

Explain the warning given to the church at Thyatira that unless they repent, they will be cast into the bed of the great tribulation to be killed with death in Revelation 2:18-25 That tells me that there is a reason why Jesus is warning the churches to be ready or else, 5 to repent and 2 to hold fast or else.
 

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All of those who expect a Pre-Trib Rapture will very likely have their faith dashed to pieces when it doesn't come and they find themselves in the midst of a more difficult existence than they ever imagined God would allow for them.

Because none of them developed a love for the Truth (Jesus & The Bible), they will not search the scriptures to discover that they have been had and their lack of knowledge of His Word will be their destruction.

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
Hosea 4:6

A lot of saved believers will be left behind when the Bridegroom comes because they were not ready as found abiding in Him & His words. That is why Jesus is warning believers, even His disciples to be ready or else in Luke 12:40-49 Jesus is even warning churches in Revelation where in one they needed to repent or else be cast into the bed of the great tribulation to be killed with death in according to their works Revelation 2:18-25

So the rapture is about Jesus warning believers to be found abiding in Him at all times because He will come like a thief in the night.
 

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Matthew 25:31-46 is nothing more than a "Parable" to "Herdsmen" using sheep/goats in explanation of the Great White Throne judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15

Yes Matthew 25:46 clearly shows this "final judgement", eternal life, eternal punishment, (The End) with no Millennial Kingdom on this earth following as many claim

Matthew 25:46KJV
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

It is not for the great white throne but for entrance into the millenial kingdom on earth! Saved people already have eternal life! We just start enjoying the "physical" aspectso f it so to speak in the millenial kingdom.
 

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The 1000 years===A man age 100 is like a child!

“No longer shall there be in it an infant who lives only a few days, Or an old man who does not finish his days; For the youth who dies at the age of a hundred, And the one who does not reach the age of a hundred Will be thought of as accursed. Isaiah 65:20

God's wrath=great tribulation===Revelation 16 “Then I heard a loud voice from the temple telling the seven angels, ‘Go and pour out on the earth the seven bowls of the """wrath of God.’""" So the first angel went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and harmful and painful sores came upon the people who bore the mark of the beast and worshiped its image.
 

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Explain the warning given to the church at Thyatira that unless they repent, they will be cast into the bed of the great tribulation to be killed with death in Revelation 2:18-25 That tells me that there is a reason why Jesus is warning the churches to be ready or else, 5 to repent and 2 to hold fast or else.
Still no proof of a pre-trib rapture, pure speculation and assumptions not seen in scripture
 

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It is not for the great white throne but for entrance into the millenial kingdom on earth! Saved people already have eternal life! We just start enjoying the "physical" aspectso f it so to speak in the millenial kingdom.
Your claim the sheep/goats is a judgement to enter a Millennial kingdom is false, verse Matthew 25:46 shows eternal last day judgement to eternal life, and that's not in a Millennium on earth
 

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Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

And reign on the earth, too:

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
 

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And reign on the earth, too:

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Yes the believers are currently kings and priest, and currently reign with the Lord in his kingdom on this earth

Revelation 1:5-6KJV
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Yes the believer is in the Kingdom of God "Presently"

Colossians 1:13KJV
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
 
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