Secure Eternal Salvation

[Ferris Bueller]

Hey - if you want to retract what you said in post #1093 when you agreed aith the Catholic position - be my guest . . .

I do not agree with it at all. I have given you the courtesy of taking the time to at least understand your erroneous works justification argument. What I have not done is agree with it. Don’t confuse the two.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Soooo, if the Catholic Church was the ONLY representation of Christianity in the 5th century...

It was the only organizational representation of Christianity. A false, corrupted organizational representation of Christianity.

- ummmmm, WHO was this "ther" group that sprung from it when the Church went to hell?

Historical documentation, please . . .

The sum total of true, individual believers in the blood of Christ has existed right from the Day of Pentecost to this very day. It will always exist and will never be held back by the gates of hades. Peter and his revelation and confession of the Christ is the foundation of a whole building of individual believers with the same revelation and confession of Christ he had. Ultimately, no religious organization of man can hinder or defeat that church, the true church.

 

[TEXBOW]

It was the only organizational representation of Christianity. A false, corrupted organizational representation of Christianity.


The sum total of true, individual believers in the blood of Christ has existed right from the Day of Pentecost to this very day. It will always exist and will never be held back by the gates of hades. Peter and his revelation and confession of the Christ is the foundation of a whole building of individual believers with the same revelation and confession of Christ he had. Ultimately, no religious organization of man can hinder or defeat that church, the true church.

I'm not sure they understand the body of Christ. At Communion, they think it's a wafer.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I've repeated several times that all denominations have had evil people in leadership positions. Men are men and men sin. You try to compare the sins of reformers with the long history of satan's partnership with the CC. There is no comparison. Have you thought about the fact that Judas was dead before God sent his Holy Spirit? I do not justify any sin. I hate sin. I hate false doctrine as it deceives souls and ushers them into hell. God will not turn a blind eye towards any sin. You have resorted to just making up my position on this matter. We see thru you. I pray for you.

A Catholic is in no position to counsel the world on child molestation. Your Church has and is protecting those guilty of sexual abuse to this very day. Your Church is also protecting the Homosexual Priest Pipeline out of South America. It is estimated that several hundred thousand children, mostly boys have been molested in the CC. One man tells of the Bishop fondling him as a young boy while the Bishop was Hail Mary praying. How sick.

Over 1700 Priest have been accused of sexual abuse of a child. Over 333,000 children were abused in Catholic Churches in France alone. Over 1000 in Pennsylvania that we know of. I would guess the number of abused around the world is in the millions. It is a global satan infested organization. Bury your head in the sand. I wouldn't want to admit it either if I were you. Are all Catholic Priest corrupt, NO. Are all Catholic Churches corrupt NO. Their supreme leadership is. The Church is well aware of the abuses and turns its head. They continue to ignore the numerous problems with a homosexual Priest in Paterson NJ to this day. It is a global infestation.
Many in the CC turn their eyes away because they are deceived into false traditions the Church has created to subject its followers. I do feel bad for them. I do not hate those who are in the CC, I hate false doctrine. I hate Satan and his minions.

You cannot see it. I understand.

And again, this rant is just another typical display of your hypocrisy.

ALL sin is evil – but ONLY when committed by Catholics – is that it? YOU say that I turn a blind eye to the sins within the MY Church – while YOU ignore the SAME sins being committed by YOUR Protestant leaders. What a typical Pharisee . . .

A good read for you would be the acclaimed book by Protestant author, Philip Jenkins called, Pedophiles and Priests.
Jenkins presents all of the statistical FBI and Insurance facts – and concludes that there is FAR MORE molestation going on in YOUR Protestant sects than in the Catholic Church . . .

Evangelicals ‘worse’ than Catholics on sexual abuse

Evangelical Sex Abuse Record ‘Worse’ Than Catholic, Says Billy Graham’s Grandson

Protestants can no longer dismiss abuse as a ‘Catholic problem’

Child Sex Abuse More Prevalent Among Protestants Than Among Catholics

There Is More Sexual Abuse In The Protestant Churches Than Catholic

Catholic priests no guiltier of sex abuse than other clergy

Data Shed Light on Child Sexual Abuse by Protestant Clergy

Blogger Who Exposed Protestant Sex Abuse Cover Up Sued By Her Pastor

Denial About Sexual Abuse In Evangelical Churches

Southern Baptists Apologize For Sex Abuse Coverups

U.S. Protestants’ Views Mixed about Extent of Clergy Sexual Abuse

Churchgoers Split on Existence of More Sexual Abuse by Pastors

Confronting Evangelical Enabling of Sexual Abuse

Child abuse a Calvinist problem, podcast says

 

[BreadOfLife]

It was the only organizational representation of Christianity. A false, corrupted organizational representation of Christianity.

PROVE that.

The Catholic Church was the ONLY Christian Church in existence for a thousand years.
PROVE otherwise, Einstein . . .

The sum total of true, individual believers in the blood of Christ has existed right from the Day of Pentecost to this very day. It will always exist and will never be held back by the gates of hades. Peter and his revelation and confession of the Christ is the foundation of a whole building of individual believers with the same revelation and confession of Christ he had. Ultimately, no religious organization of man can hinder or defeat that church, the true church.

And that "sum total" of believers was the Catholic Church.

The funny thing is that I can prove it with documentation - whereas, YOU can't . . .[/QUOTE]

 

[BreadOfLife]

I do not agree with it at all. I have given you the courtesy of taking the time to at least understand your erroneous works justification argument. What I have not done is agree with it. Don’t confuse the two.

Okay, so you've retracted your staement.
That's what I thought . . .

 

[TEXBOW]

And again, this rant is just another typical display of your hypocrisy.

ALL sin is evil – but ONLY when committed by Catholics – is that it? YOU say that I turn a blind eye to the sins within the MY Church – while YOU ignore the SAME sins being committed by YOUR Protestant leaders. What a typical Pharisee . . .

A good read for you would be the acclaimed book by Protestant author, Philip Jenkins called, Pedophiles and Priests.
Jenkins presents all of the statistical FBI and Insurance facts – and concludes that there is FAR MORE molestation going on in YOUR Protestant sects than in the Catholic Church . . .

Evangelicals ‘worse’ than Catholics on sexual abuse

Evangelical Sex Abuse Record ‘Worse’ Than Catholic, Says Billy Graham’s Grandson

Protestants can no longer dismiss abuse as a ‘Catholic problem’

Child Sex Abuse More Prevalent Among Protestants Than Among Catholics

There Is More Sexual Abuse In The Protestant Churches Than Catholic

Catholic priests no guiltier of sex abuse than other clergy

Data Shed Light on Child Sexual Abuse by Protestant Clergy

Blogger Who Exposed Protestant Sex Abuse Cover Up Sued By Her Pastor

Denial About Sexual Abuse In Evangelical Churches

Southern Baptists Apologize For Sex Abuse Coverups

U.S. Protestants’ Views Mixed about Extent of Clergy Sexual Abuse
.
Churchgoers Split on Existence of More Sexual Abuse by Pastors

Confronting Evangelical Enabling of Sexual Abuse

Child abuse a Calvinist problem, podcast says

I do not care how many times you say it or how many times you attempt to deflect the world knows the infestation of moral corruption within the Catholic Church over its history. Sexual abuse of children, sexual abuse of Nuns, Lesbian Nuns abusing other Nuns. Homosexual Priest requiters, an infestation of homosexual Priest within the Catholic Church is rampant.

You continue to lie that I turn a blind eye to sins of other denominations. I've not once posted anything that supports your slander. I know all denominations have had sin in their Churches. You can deflect all you wish. I've never ignored any group's sins. You can only try to change the direction of the spotlight shining for decades upon the moral corruption of the Catholic Church leadership. It's no wonder your Church is so in bed with Satan. Your Church has denied the sufficiency of the cross for most of its history.

The Protestant faith has a speck in its eye, the Catholic Church a log.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Hey guys, I found something interesting yesterday in my reading, beginning remarks of 1 Thess.

your work produced by faith, your labor prompted by love, and your endurance inspired by hopein our Lord Jesus Christ.

Do you see it? He makes a distinction and uses two different words. Work that comes through trust, and labor done that is prompted by love.

Yes. Your salvation produces good works with love. Works are evidence of salvation and not a cause for salvation.

And this is precisely why I have warned you guys that cherry-picking verses OUT of context with the rest of Scripture doesn’t work.
It only causes more confusion . . .

1 Theess. 1:3 makes more sense when you read other verses like Eph. 2:8-10 . . .

1 Theess. 1:3 ESV
remembering before our God and Father your work OF faith and labor OF love and steadfastness of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Eph. 2:8-10 ESV
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus FOR good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

1 Thess. 1:3 talks about work OF faith and labor OF love – NOT work and labor as a RESULT of faith and love.

Eph. 2:8-10 ESV is about the fact that it is nothing that WE do on our OWN.
God Himself created us FOR works OF faith that HE put there for us in advance to do.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I do not care how many times you say it or how many times you attempt to deflect the world knows the infestation of moral corruption within the Catholic Church over its history. Sexual abuse of children, sexual abuse of Nuns, Lesbian Nuns abusing other Nuns. Homosexual Priest requiters, an infestation of homosexual Priest within the Catholic Church is rampant.

And HOW man times must you be shown that the SAME sins exist in your splintered Protestant factions??

You continue to lie that I turn a blind eye to sins of other denominations. I've not once posted anything that supports your slander. I know all denominations have had sin in their Churches. You can deflect all you wish. I've never ignored any group's sins. You can only try to change the direction of the spotlight shining for decades upon the moral corruption of the Catholic Church leadership. It's no wonder your Church is so in bed with Satan.

Boy – I must have REALLY hit a nerve . . .

I’m not “changing” the direction of anything. I’m simply holding up a mirror in front of our hypocritical face to show you that YOUR fractured sects are guilty of the exact SAME sins you accuse Catholics of. If you don't like what you see - I can't help you.

That’s precisely what the Pharisees used to do.

Your Church has denied the sufficiency of the cross for most of its history.

And what does the Church teach that would “deny” the sufficiency of the cross, Einstein? Give me explicit examples from the Catechism – or just admit that you’re lying again.

I’ll wait right here for your well-researched response . . .

Protestant faith has a speck in its eye, the Catholic Church a log.

THANK YOU for illustrating your abhect ignorance of God's Word.

Ummmm, the “speck/log” analogy of Matt. 7:3 is NOT about actual comparisons.
Jesus was making a point about the hypocrisy of the accuser – in this case, YOU.

Congratulations . . .

 

[TEXBOW]

And HOW man times must you be shown that the SAME sins exist in your splintered Protestant factions??

Boy – I must have REALLY hit a nerve . . .

I’m not “changing” the direction of anything. I’m simply holding up a mirror in front of our hypocritical face to show you that YOUR fractured sects are guilty of the exact SAME sins you accuse Catholics of. If you don't like what you see - I can't help you.

That’s precisely what the Pharisees used to do.

And what does the Church teach that would “deny” the sufficiency of the cross, Einstein? Give me explicit examples from the Catechism – or just admit that you’re lying again.

I’ll wait right here for your well-researched response . . .

THANK YOU for illustrating your abhect ignorance of God's Word.

Ummmm, the “speck/log” analogy of Matt. 7:3 is NOT about actual comparisons.
Jesus was making a point about the hypocrisy of the accuser – in this case, YOU.

Congratulations . . .

Your works-based salvation is all the evidence the world needs to prove that the cross was not sufficient for Catholics. God needs you to help him out. You can keep trying to bash me all you want. I'll keep warning the uninformed of the false teachings of the CC.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Your works-based salvation is all the evidence the world needs to prove that the cross was not sufficient for Catholics. God needs you to help him out. You can keep trying to bash me all you want. I'll keep warning the uninformed of the false teachings of the CC.

Anf that's precisely the kind of lie that makes you an anti-Cathilic.

The Church has never taught that God "needs" us for anyting. WE need to cooperate with HIM.if we want salvation.
You can "believe" until the cows come and it will do you NO good, according to Paul (1 Cor. 13:1-3) and James (James 2:19). because that's not "Faith".

Faith is Belief through Love, Hope, Works and Trust.
If your faith doesn't have those ingredients - then you are NOT cooperating ewith God.

Good luck with that . . .

 

[TEXBOW]

Anf that's precisely the kind of lie that makes you an anti-Cathilic.

The Church has never taught that God "needs" us for anyting. WE need to cooperate with HIM.if we want salvation.
You can "believe" until the cows come and it will do you NO good, according to Paul (1 Cor. 13:1-3) and James (James 2:19). because that's not "Faith".

Faith is Belief through Love, Hope, Works and Trust.
If your faith doesn't have those ingredients - then you are NOT cooperating ewith God.

Good luck with that . . .

Yes I'm opposed to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Faith brings love, hope, works. Works do not bring salvation.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes I'm opposed to the teachings of the Catholic Church. Faith brings love, hope, works. Works do not bring salvation.

Correction:
Faith doesn't "bring" these things. Faith IS these things.

Belief WITHOUT these things is not faith at all (1 Cor. 14:1-3, Gal. f, James 2:14-26).

 

[theefaith]

James 2:24 does in fact say a man is not justified by faith alone.
The problem is you think that can only mean a man is not made righteous by faith alone but is made righteous by works too. 'Justified' has more than one meaning. And from the context of James' discourse we can see that he's talking about being justified in regard to showing oneself to be righteous (James 2:18), not being made righteous as Paul is talking about in his discourse (Romans 3:22).

justify

A man is made righteous by faith without work. And so he is justified (made righteous) by faith without work.
A man is shown to be righteous by his work. And so he is justified (shown to be righteous) by what he does.
And so it is that a man is justified by, both, faith and works. Just as James says. So you can see, James 2:24 has nothing to do with works making a man righteous. Works show him to be righteous.

No it is by faith and works and sacraments in grace in Christ!

paul was opposing “works alone”!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

No it is by faith and works and sacraments in grace in Christ!

paul was opposing “works alone”!

No, works do not MAKE you righteous. The only thing that can make you righteous is God's forgiveness and the imputation of HIS righteousness to your account. And he gives it as a free gift, through faith, not as an obligation of debt owed to a person.

 

[theefaith]

Yep.

So why do you not believe scripture?

Did Jesus say some people get saved by faith in him, and others have to work to earn it?

All the same faith works sacraments in Christ thru grace

 

[theefaith]

Redemption, Justification, Sanctification, and Salvation!

Redemption: 100 percent the work of God, thru the life, death, resurrection, and ascension of Jesus Christ! All mankind are redeemed in Christ! Eph 2
Galatians 2:16 3:13
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law...
Christ alone accomplished the redemption of mankind apart from any works on our part!

(Redemption is not Salvation)
Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.


Justification: our acceptance of redemption thru faith and baptism! Become a disciple and member of Christ and His Church! Jn 3:5 acts 2:38 Mk 16:16 He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.


Sanctification: the life of grace in the holy sacrifice of the mass and sacraments, prayer, virture, and good works, the just living by faith, and faith working thru love! Phil 1:29 called to suffer with Christ.
All done in Christ thru His grace! Jn 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Salvation: a christian in the state if grace at the moment of death we enter into the salvation of the Lord! Mt 24:44-47 faithful servant! Jn 15:1-5 abide in me. Mt 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Heb 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Heb 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:
Heb 4:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
Rom 13:11 ...for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Suffering required for glorification with Christ!

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

Justification and salvation are not the same rom 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

'The Father has set his seal' on Christ (John 6:27) and also seals us in him (cf. 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:23, 4:30). Because this seal indicates the indelible effect of the anointing with the Holy Spirit in the sacrament of Baptism,

Baptism indeed is the seal of eternal life." 87 The faithful Christian who has "kept the seal" until the end, remaining faithful to the demands of his Baptism, will be able to depart this life "marked with the sign of faith," 88 with his baptismal faith, in expectation of the blessed vision of God - the consummation of faith - and in the hope of resurrection.

St. Paul tells the faithful at Ephesus that they have been “sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” This is in terms of an indelible character imprinted on the soul in the sacraments of baptism and confirmation. It is not as if this invisible mark is simply decorative. Rather, through it, we are enabled to participate in Christ’s mission and in his offices of priest, prophet, and king. Eph 1:13

Sealed by God eph 1:13 sealed by God (ez 36:25-27) in the ark of salvation by baptism just as Noah was sealed by God in the ark of the flood gen 7:16

1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark of Noah none were saved, outside the church (the ark of salvation) none are saved!)

 

[theefaith]

so james wrote to himself? And in chapter 2 he spoke about himself??

What a joke man

James said those people CLAIMED TO HAVE FAITH.

He never said they HAD FAITH.

Those people HAD NO WORK. And their Faith was DEAD NON EXISTENT

Whats is amazing is you agree, he is teaching that if people do not have works, they do not have faith. Then when I say that is n ot directed to you. You act as if it does.

You teach salvation is by works, And you boast of your works. Hence JAMES IS NOT SPEAKING TO YOU.

Paul is who you need to be listening to. You no different than the jews and all their sacrificial works (sacraments) they wanted to add to grace to be saved.

grace enables us to be holy and just and righteous it does not do it for us!
We have to choose (volition) to love and serve God

you cannot simply expect grace to make you sober and not a drunkard
You have free will
Must chose my will be done or Thy will be done
Choose God’s will and grace supports us enables us
Because of original sin and fallen human nature we need Gods help
Gods grace

see below

 

[theefaith]

Self-righteousness!

It is not actually possible to be self-righteous:

Only to have an attitude or outlook that is self-righteous:

By nature we possess nothing of goodness, cannot even formulate one good thought:

All we have that is our own is sin and its consequences:

So we MUST have help from God in a million different ways to be good and holy:

We need God to give us grace, virtues, strength, and all our needs!

We need God to give us faith:
We need God to give us hope:
We need God to give us charity:
We need God to give us grace:
We need God to give us strength:

And so ALL honour, glory, and thanksgiving MUST be into God!

Scripture:

1 cor 4:7
For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

We must be united with Christ the only mediator of the only covenant in grace thru faith & baptism: Heb 3:14 partakers with Christ!

Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5 acts 2:38-39 acts 8:36-38 1 cor 12:13 gal 3:27 Titus 3:5
1 Peter 3:20-21

Grace enables us to be holy, pure, and righteous:

We must surrender our free will to conform to God’s will, deny ourselves and take up our cross and follow Him:

Luke 9:23
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity!

Matt 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

All good must be obtained from God:

Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Apart from Christ we can do nothing:

Jn 15:5
apart from me you can do nothing:

United to Christ thru grace we can do good and become holy, pure, & sanctified, and our faith, works, (virtue, fasts, alms, prayer) are meritorious and we receive reward for them:

Matt 6:20
build up for yourselves treasure in heaven.

Matt 6:33
seek yes first the kingdom of God and his righteousness.

Romans 2:6
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

Matt 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

We must suffer with Christ:

Luke 24:26
Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

John 15:20
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

Colossians 1:24
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ (our participation) in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:

Matthew 10:38
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Matthew 16:24
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Matthew 16:25
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

Matt 24:13 he who endures unto the end shall be saved.

Matthew 7:19-23 “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'”

Matthew 10:22 “All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”

Matthew 24:9-13 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.”

John 12:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

25
He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

Romans 5:3
And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

Romans 5:4
And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

1 Corinthians 9:27 “No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.”

2 Corinthians 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

2 Thessalonians 1:5
Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

Colossians 1:11
Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

2 Tim 2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

Phil 1:29
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

James 1:2-8
My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing

Hebrews 6:12
That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

Hebrews 12:4
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.

1 Peter 2:20
For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

Self-righteous is only an accusation by those who accuse Christians of earning salvation against those who obey and are faithful!

We must avoid the near occasions of sin:

Examples:

If you ask for the grace to be sober and not a drunkard, but go to the bar everyday after work you are not being faithful. Or if you ask the grace to be pure, you must have custody of the eyes and not look upon every woman you pass with lust.

This is not earning salvation but being faithful, worthy of the grace of God!

We must ask the grace of daily Perseverance in God’s grace and to conform to His will, and to ask daily for final perseverance in God’s grace!

Ask and you shall receive, deliver us oh Lord from all evil!

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema

We must choose to love God!

My God I believe, adore, hope, & love Thee, I ask pardon for those who do not believe, adore, hope, & love Thee!

All honour, glory, and thanksgiving to God for His infinite goodness unto man!

Praise to the divine heart of Jesus, that wrought our salvation!

Blessed be God!

 

[theefaith]

No, works do not MAKE you righteous. The only thing that can make you righteous is God's forgiveness and the imputation of HIS righteousness to your account. And he gives it as a free gift, through faith, not as an obligation of debt owed to a person.

So you’re sins are not really forgiven???