amigo de christo
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Always remember this , birds of one feather will always flock together .
Here is what it all comes down to—- and you’d better get it right!
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Grailhunter
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Your thinking is wrong. That is why you are stuck in this junk. Yes God loves us and we love God...but that has nothing to do with justifying sinful lives. But it is one of the reasons that people turn to the OSAS heresy. They cannot bear the thought of their children and loved ones going to hell, it does not matter what they do. There are serial killers and seral rapists in federal penitentiaries and their mommies will tell you that their kid actually has a kind heart.
Why do people come to believe OSAS?
Some want to live a life of sin and still go to heaven. So they latch on to the OSAS bandwagon.
Some may want to be popular and socially politically correct. Fit in to this world socially or at work.
Some may have children or grandchildren or even friends that they cannot bear the thought of going to hell.
Some came to Christianity honestly wanting to clean up their act and have a relationship with God. And they are headed off at the pass by the OSAS crowd that convince them that there is no need to change....just believe in Christ and they are guaranteed heaven. So their lives and their children's lives remain in shambles living a life of sin and filth.
And there is yet another reason. Over the last 2000 years people have come up with so many man-made sins....hundreds? So many that some believe it would be impossible to even try to be good. So they just give up thinking that it all has to be forgiven or no one would make it. That is why it is important to know biblical sins and do not pay any attention to man-made sins.
Now there are varying degrees and categories of OSAS
Calvinists are OSAS by default because they believe God decided who was going to heaven or hell before creation. But they do not practice sin and sin some more....they look at people's conduct as a way of telling if a person was chosen by God. So most Calvinists believe in moral behavior. Calvinism as a denomination is nearly 500 years old
Then there are other denominations that believe in OSAS in principle...but still believe in morals...thinking that if a person is horrible.... serial killer or homosexual...that they really were not saved to begin with.
Then you have this new denomination that I keep talking about....it is new! We can trace its roots back to around the 1960's. The flower children...peace...love...smoke pot. It moves forward as a social religion...in a lot of ways defined by political correctness and much less defined by the Bible. I can guarantee you that Christ and the Apostles were not preach sins and sin some more and in His name all manner of sin will go to heaven. Then you have the early Christian writings and the ecumenical councils they definitely did not believe in sin and sin some more and guaranteed heaven. So this belief system is very new and tied very much to social values and morals rather than the Bible. Because it is so contrary to scripture and because it harms people's lives and can lead them to hell it is one of the worst heresies ever seen in history.
Then you just got evil people that don't want to go to hell. So they have formulated a belief system that all manner of evil will go to heaven...LOL...Wonder what they think hell is for? This is even newer than the new social denomination. Tailor made for the worst of evil and evil lifestyles. Some of these people do not even believe in repenting, so they do not even try to get their sins forgiven...die in yours sins. So the people that believe them, do not even have a chance. There is nothing about this that is godly or good...it is all pure evil!
But the bottom line is...evil goes to hell and good goes to heaven.
Be good and do good.
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Michiah-Imla
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"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." (Matthew 15:14)
amigo de christo
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Yes , many are preaching ANOTHER jesus . Any guesses why i did not capitalize that jesus . CAUSE IT AINT JESUS .
MY JESUS SAID BE HEARERS AND DOERS . MY JESUS said , HE or she who endures to the end shall be saved .
Folks need to learn the BIBLICAL JESUS and ALL doctrine the apostels also wrote as well as all doctrine in that bible .
Many are following another jesus . AND that jesus IS NOT JESUS thus , its the dragon .
Think about this for a second . WHAT is the ONE goal of the serpent . TO CAUSE DISOBEDIANCE TO GOD
TO CHRIST . And most folks follow the serpent . HAS JESUS really said that if a man puts away HIS Wife and marries another
HE is an adulterer , NAY NAY says that jesus , or the serpent , GOD IS LOVE HE UNDERSTANDS . SEE .
AND many other sins do they likewise . THEY are following ANOTHER jesus my friend . many are .
BUT the solution is real simple . I CONDMEN NONE , ITS WHY I POINT TO THE JESUS OF THAT BIBLE
and tell folks GET BACK IN THAT BIBLE and LEARN JESUS well .
amigo de christo
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Lets say we needed a plumber . And we are told JOSE RODRIGUEZ is your man . Call him up and
he will fix your plumbing .
Well i can pick up any ol phone book and in it i see many named JOSE RODRIGUEZ .
IF i call just any one of them are they the same man . Can all of them fix my plumbing . NO .
SO IF WE are hollering JESUS , yet are not following the biblical one that saves , DONT EXPECT TO BE SAVED , cause no other jesus can save .
LEARN THOSE BIBLES , LEARN EVERY WORD . HURRY , cause the delusion is gaining ground and many will be taken in this delusion and be damned .
he will fix your plumbing .
Well i can pick up any ol phone book and in it i see many named JOSE RODRIGUEZ .
IF i call just any one of them are they the same man . Can all of them fix my plumbing . NO .
SO IF WE are hollering JESUS , yet are not following the biblical one that saves , DONT EXPECT TO BE SAVED , cause no other jesus can save .
LEARN THOSE BIBLES , LEARN EVERY WORD . HURRY , cause the delusion is gaining ground and many will be taken in this delusion and be damned .
amigo de christo
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Point folks to the BIBLICAL JESUS . many are not gonna make it .
Precious Addy, I also would like to accomplish THE IMPOSSIBLE! But, I just leave that In The Great Hands Of The Wonderful LORD! ;)
+ I have NEVER understood "abusing" GRACE When God Says I should "Take Advantage" Of HIS Amazing GRACE! Amen?:
Rom 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have PEACE With God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Rom 5:2 By whom also we have ACCESS BY FAITH INTO THIS GRACE wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of The Glory of God.
Thus I feel kinda
for ALL of the opponents of God's ETERNAL Salvation who, it seems, WILL NEVER understand HIS Amazing GRACE!!Praise HIS Precious Name, now, and FOREVER!!!
See you in God’s Great GloryLand! ♫ :) ↑
BarneyFife
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You mean the one we're supposed to lay aside?
Please tell me you're joking. Because you can't possibly not see how warped this is. It's like the angels saying, near the beginning of their creation: "Well, Lucifer has to fall and spread the sin disease to earth--otherwise the plan of salvation will be a complete waste of time...get real..."
You are much too clever to say that “ Repentance earns Salvation” .....you use a “ back door approach”
In your book, Repentance does not Earn Salvation , but if you have a sin in your life that you did not repent of before you died, you are damned......you will deny “that” but you “ do” believe if a person does not Repent Of a “ Willful Sin” That he committed.....THAT man is damned forever .....The Blood Of Jesus is too weak to cover these Willful Sins( all of YOUR sins being “ accidental, of course and you certainly remember them ALL so your Repentance Report will be up to date.(What a pathetic picture of Christianity you have.)
The White Dog represents the Holy Spirit.....That Holy Spirit and Jesus are one and the same—- completely interchangeable
amigo de christo
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Let he or she who has ears to hear and eyes to see , POINT TO JESUS CHRIST , the BIBLICAL CHRIST .
Many folks are not gonna make it .
Many folks are not gonna make it .
I feel the same about you as you do me.....I guess all we can do is let the reader decide....suits me...
When my daughter sins I tell her not to do it again....sometimes she obeys and sometimes she does not....not ONCE do I expect her to be perfect just because I told her to stop sinning....it was the same way with Jesus —— What world are you living In? Do you REALLY think that Jesus was demanding that these people be perfect the rest of their lives?
I don’t believe I was being serious....I have probably accused him of much worse things.....I was trying to make a point.....deal with it....He May not be a “ hypocrite” , but make no mistake about THIS ....He is a Perverter Of the Gospel Of Pure Grace preached by Paul and he is “ Fallen from Grace” .....just like 90% of the Church World That ADDS to the Gospel with repenting of all your sins before you die and making DOUBLE SURE you repent of any “ Willful Sins” That finds the Blood Of Jesus inadequate to cover....They Shipwreck the Faith Of newbies before they even get a chance to get started.....
I am quite fond of everybody in here, Believe it or not.....I am a sheep in wolf’s clothing.....the sweetest guy you could ever meet in real life —— I suspect that the vast majority of posters in these forums are the same way.....we are debating EXTREMELY important matters in here.....people are passionate about their beliefs and it’s easy to get carried away ....if a person can’t get passionate about these important matters, something is wrong with them.....we are talking about HEAVEN and HELL—— it doesn't “GET” any more serious than this....We discuss things that most people don’t even want to “ THINK” about.....it’s too scary.....they will regret ignoring what we debate daily........it can get pretty heated in here sometimes .....too bad—— if you can’t stand the heat, simply stay out of the kitchen....there is nothing wrong with that....we must strive to not take things personally.....to me its all “water off a duck’s back”..... I simply can’t remember the last time any remark really made me angry....
Was there no mouthpiece during the year between Christ's ascension and Paul's conversion? I heard Peter and James were doing excellent work.
Of course they did great work .....Jesus said that Paul was God’s Messenger to the Gentiles ....that would be me....Jesus said to follow Paul .....that’s what I do.....Even Peter, admitting that Paul was sometimes “ hard to understand” had to admit in the end that All Of Pauls letters were as valid as anything else in Scripture...
This is not to “ poor- mouth” anybody else......I just think Paul is a better , more detailed preacher of “his” Gospel That Saves souls.....that Gospel was given to him personally by Jesus himself....
Grailhunter
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