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Luke 11:1-2 . . He was praying in a certain place, and when he had
finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray just as John
taught his disciples.” He said to them, “When you pray, say: yada, yada,
yada, etc."

When I was a little boy, just about every night at bedtime I recited the
classic lay-me-down-to-sleep children's prayer. In my opinion; a rote prayer
like that one is okay for getting kids started communicating with God.

In the beginning; Jesus' disciples were full-grown men physically. But they
were just babies spiritually. A prayer like the Our Father is a good place for
spiritually immature Christians to begin, but it's not a good place for them to
stay.

1Cor 13:11 . .When I was a child, I used to talk as a child, think as a child,
reason as a child; when I became a man, I put aside childish things.

Now take Jesus for example. There is no record of him ever even once
praying the Our Father. In point of fact, when examining Jesus' prayers, it's
readily apparent that he typically prayed in a conversational style instead of
reciting rote. Two good examples of his style are located at Matt 11:25-26
and John 17:1-26. Jesus' style is the style that mature Christians are to
follow as their role model.

Eph 4:15 . .We should grow in every way into him who is the head, Christ

Eph 4:11-13 . . And he gave some as apostles, others as prophets, others
as evangelists, others as pastors and teachers, to equip the holy ones for
the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, until we all attain to
the unity of faith and knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to
the extent of the full stature of Christ

When people have been Christians for some time, and still reciting the Our
Father, I'd have to say that their spiritual growth has been stunted, i.e.
they're not developing properly because they haven't been getting adequate
nourishment.


NOTE: The Our Father is God-given, the Hail Mary is Vatican-given.
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Gen 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Show me ONE other verse of Scripture that talks about a WOMAN'S seed.

Game.
Set.
MATCH.

LOL...the ONLY WOMAN IN THE GARDEN WAS EVE.

GEN 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,

WHAT WOMAN...? DUH, THE WOMAN THE SERPENT JUST BEGUILED! DUH!

and between thy seed and
HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.


AND ADDITIONALY, ENMITY BETWEEN THE SERPENTS SEED AND "HER"...THE WOMAN...EVE'S...SEED...OFFSPRING.

ANY CONNECTION TO MARY, WOULD REVEAL...FIRST MARY IS A DIRECT DESCENDENT OF EVE, AND THUS A OFFSPRING, SEED OF EVE...

YOU REWRITE SCRIPTURE CLAIMING MARY WAS THE WOMAN IN GEN ... WHEN CLEARLY IT WAS EVE.


 

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Mommy, why're you crying?
And Daddy, why're you so blue?
And who's the nice man,
With the scars in his hands,
Leading Tina out of her room?

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Valid Scriptural Aspotles are identified by Name in Scripture.



LOL...'pope pius XII'
Eugenio Maria Giuseppe Giovanni Pacelli, was a Gentile, born in Rome, Italy, in 1976.
He was Elected by "Catholic" Gentiles to be "their holy father" pope. He changed his name to a name of his choosing....PIUS, which means IN Latin...pious, godly, HONORABLE....AND THEN SHOWS HIS HONOR TO GOD, BY MAKING UP LIES?
NOTHING WHATSOEVER, IN GODS WORD OF TRUTH, SAYS MARY'S BODY ROSE UP TO HEAVEN.

You have been fooled by a liar.
Wisdom is putting away mens lies and read Gods Truth in Scripture.



Nothing whatsoever hints, indicates, says, Rev 12 is about Mary.
Who is the child? Jesus his mother is Mary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up
The apostles have the authority of Christ
 

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the point is that it’s a generalization not absolute
also refers to original sin and Mary was preserved from original sin
Gen 3:15 enmity total war
None of satans works are in her
Lk 1:28 full of grace
Mother of God
Mother of our salvation
Mother of divine grace

Still, no.

What I said still stands...you made it up.
 

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the church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles always taught that Mary was sinless ever Virgin mother of God
The so called reformers too!

You mean men in a church taught that? You should know by now, that is little to no proof of anything...what does the bible say, what does it teach on that?
 

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You mean men in a church taught that? You should know by now, that is little to no proof of anything...what does the bible say, what does it teach on that?
The apostles were men in a church teaching.
 

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Still, no.

What I said still stands...you made it up.
Then it includes Jesus?

what about Matt 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

generalization or absolute? Did every single person go out???
 

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Who is the child? Jesus his mother is Mary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up
The apostles have the authority of Christ

If Mary was so important....
Why does scripture SAY NOTHING about her being SINLESS, as Catholics preach, being BODILY raised to Heaven, as Catholics preach...?

You have never, chosen, picked, elected or appointed a man to be "your holy father", called a pope....you simple ACCEPTED others mens choices,
WHICH NONE OF Jesus' chosen Apostles taught such nonsense...that Mary was sinless, or that Mary is bodily in Heaven...or that Jesus was an earthy terrestrial Human....or the other endless list of things ... Catholic men roundtable and DECIDE what Scripture "SHOULD HAVE SAID....(according to their philosophies)...but Didn't".
 

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Then it includes Jesus?

what about Matt 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

generalization or absolute? Did every single person go out???

Comprehension amiss...
It doesn't say all the people. It saying from all of Judea and all the surrounding regions people went from their regions to Jerusalem to Him.
 

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The apostles were men in a church teaching.

Yet they were actual biblical apostles, and not who we were taling about. Were were talking about men in a church supposedly founded by the apostles, or non biblical church people. Do I have to warn readers to watch out for every single post here, as they may contain untruthful twists? Twists out of desperation to prove something unprovable.

When one has to stoop to dishonest levels to defend their side, just as the only two people whom I have talked to here have done, it speaks volumes of how viable ones side really is.
 

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Biblical Mary
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Scripture is clear there were several Mary's mentioned IN the Bible.
The poster of this OP, presumably is thinking of Mary, wife of Joseph.

AFTER Jesus' Death and His Return to heaven, from whence He came....Mary, widow of Joseph, along with Jesus' Apostles and about 100 men and women disciples (followers of Jesus' teaching)....received (as Jesus Promised) the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Scripture speaks no further of Mary, widow of Joseph.
Per Scripture, Before Jesus' Death, Jesus had arranged for His Apostle and Friend (John) to give Mary access to Live in John's home.
Per Scripture, Mary, widow of Joseph, would have bodily died, and returned to Dust, from whence her body came.
When Mary, widow of Joseph, bodily died, where her body died, or where Her body was buried, was of no signifiance to even be mentioned in Scripture.
Guessing when Mary died, where Mary died, where Mary was buried...is Guesswork of men...
Claiming Mary Never Bodily Died, is outright Against Scripture teaching.
Claiming Mary's Body rose up to Heaven is not Scripture teaching.


 

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Try to keep the popcorn out of your mouth Long enough to "SPEAK" An exact revealing of "MARY"S NAME" ANYWHERE IN Revelations.

Doesn't need the exact name.

The interpretation is very simple.

The "child" is "a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne," Only one person in scripture fits that description - Jesus
The woman gave birth to that child.
There is only one person in scripture who gave birth to Jesus and that is Mary.
 

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Yet they were actual biblical apostles, and not who we were taling about. Were were talking about men in a church supposedly founded by the apostles, or non biblical church people. Do I have to warn readers to watch out for every single post here, as they may contain untruthful twists? Twists out of desperation to prove something unprovable.

The Church was founded by Jesus (not the Apostles). He founded it on the Apostles (Eph 2:20) and it is described as the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:15).
He appointed those Apostles with Peter as the leader (Mt 16:18-19) and gave them the mission to take the gospel to the ends of the earth. (Mt 28:16-20)
He promised he would not leave them on their own (Jn 14:18) but that he would be with them until the end of the age (Mt 28:20)
He prayed that it would be one Church (Jn 17:20-23)
That Church is headed by Christ (Col 1:18), but he appointed Peter to be the visible head on earth (Mt 16:18-19), to be the universal shepherd (Jn 21:15-17) of Christ’s one fold (Jn 10:16).

The Church didn't die out when the apostles died. They appointed successors to their ministry to carry forward all that they had been taught. And they in their turn appointed successors to carry forward all that they had been taught and so on for 2,000 years.

This is the Catholic Church.
 

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Who is the child? Jesus his mother is Mary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake up

Mary's son, is the Son of man, Named Jesus.

YOU wake up...
Listen to Jesus' OWN WORDS...

Matt 16:
[13] When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am ?

Well, WHO DID JESUS JUST SAY HE WAS?



The apostles have the authority of Christ

THe Apostles are Bodily dead.
Do you communicate with dead bodies?