God changed Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to First Day of the Week

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Sometimes things need to be sifted like wheat in order to remove the chaff (foolishness)
We find ourselves not wrestling flesh and blood but principles and commonsense.
Some people believe that debate and argument is healthy because eventually you get to the root of the matter.
I don't mind arguing or debating "topics" ,
I have a problem with personal attacks.
And those will come too.
But then you get to see the "true nature" of people.
We are still far from perfected.
Amen?
You have expressed what I think most believe about this topic of debating... I am usually the HORRIFIED observer who occasionally can no longer contain myself. LOL.... I do not see the purpose at all of debating... but with that said.... perhaps I have never seen debating in true form... there are very few that I can think of who have this gift.... Ravi Zacharias was my favorite apologist... and yet.... his work was RUINED and his legacy totally erased because of his behaviour. Anyways.... it is what it is...
 
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Everybody think too much of their own believing and too little of God's doing.

You never did reply when I gave you this, so let me give it again:

John 4:21
Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father."

What is the LORD Jesus saying here?
Extrapolate.
 

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Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
Isa 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
Isa 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

let us reason together...
Reason..
yâkach, yaw-kahh'; a primitive root; to be right (i.e. correct); reciprocal, to argue; causatively, to decide, justify or convict:—appoint, argue, chasten, convince, correct(-ion), daysman, dispute, judge, maintain, plead, reason (together), rebuke, reprove(-r), surely, in any wise.

If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land...

Funny how arguing and eating the good of the land seem to go together..LOL

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But I have died to the law, in order to belong to Him: Christ Jesus is my Husband.

You, <have died> - your will your act your power your authority, for what it's worth : 0.
But "you also have become dead to the law" - God's Will God's Act God's Power God's Authority, worth : ALL.

Anti-Sabbatharian Sundaydarians and anti-Resurrection of Christ Sabbathtarians perfectly are the same: superstitious humanist free-will worshippers of days. Would be happy to find one exception.
 
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Honestly.... this seems no different than the Catholic threads with all their man-made sacraments that only serve to keep them chained to the Roman Catholic church rather than enslaved to Christ Jesus our Lord and Saviour.

I have stated that I treat every day like the Sabbath and apparently this is not good enough... I enter into each day as though it is a HOLY DAY... and I praise... give thanks... am grateful for... and give all the credit to JESUS CHRIST... yet... because I won't proclaim Saturday as the true day of rest... my life means NOTHING.... OH my goodness.... Do people not SEE????
Just another 26 times 'I' alphabet on a groove disjunctured gramophone record. Let me tell you I for 1 care sultsch for you or for your exasperation at the failures of seekers after God's SCRIPTURE-truth.
 
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sorry @GerhardEbersoehn ... you have fallen on my last nerve... off to IGNORE land you go... You will be in good company with the Catholics there... they are sabbath keepers too.
 

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You, <have died> - your will your act your power your authority, for what it's worth : 0.
But "you also have become dead to the law" - God's Will God's Act God's Power God's Authority, worth : ALL.

Anti-Sabbatharian Sundaydarians and anti-Resurrection of Christ Sabbatharians perfectly are the same: superstitious humanist free-will worshippers of days. Would be happy to find one exception.

Verse please?
 

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So is God Almighty Creator Lord and Saviour -- according to the Scriptures!
I find it humorous that of all the things one can focus on regarding JESUS CHRIST.... some would choose observing a day that can be either Saturday or Sunday... NO biggie to God. So much bigger fish to fry when it comes to Christianity... Anyways... I am off to another place.... I have worn out my welcome here and I'm hungry... it's lunch time... HAVE a nice day.
 

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You never did reply when I gave you this, so let me give it again:

John 4:21
Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father."

What is the LORD Jesus saying here?
Extrapolate.

No man, YOU like and LOVE to extrapolate what and on what God says and is Written. Don't try lure me into your hateful habits, I despise and abhor such things as the apostles of such things. Off my neck Satan!
 

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No man, YOU like and LOVE to extrapolate what and on what God says and is Written. Don't try lure me into your hateful habits, I despise and abhor such things as the apostles of such things. Off my neck Satan!

You think it's satanic to understand that scripture?
 

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According to Judaism -

Saturday

The Jewish Sabbath (from Hebrew shavat, “to rest”) is observed throughout the year on the seventh day of the week—Saturday. According to biblical tradition, it commemorates the original seventh day on which God rested after completing the creation.

Well said!

Except no where in scripture is there any reference, hint, verse, or passage, from Genesis to Revelation, that suggests even remotely or indirectly that the Sabbath was Jewish. It was, and will always be, the Lord's Day.

Can't see the forest through the trees huh? I've been walking about these tree's for weeks. I don't see no forest!

So when God gave Israel the ten commandments, it wasn't just for them.

My pastor explicitly and repeatedly affirmed the opposite. Compelling is who God addressed in Exodus 20:2


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