Jostler
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FIRE will prove the quality of the materials we choose to build with. We are given choice. Wood, hay and stubble? (Works of the flesh)
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Understanding MPD/DID & SRA/MK
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Or "gold, silver and precious stones. (Walking in the Spirit)
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When fire touches wood, hay and stubble, they turn to ash...they are consumed
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But gold, silver and precious stones are not destroyed by fire, they are purified by it.
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It is intense heat that causes gold and silver to give up the impurities within them and become pure.
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MELTING HEAT. In the refining, you get so hot, you are liquefied. "You" can't even hold your form anymore. We become HELPLESS. NO hope of ANYTHING left in me that can hold any particular shape, or serve any good purpose.
It is in the fire, that I learn that there is NO hope for me
EXCEPT.....the grace, power and purpose of my FOUNDATION.
It is in the fire, that I learn that there is NO hope for me
EXCEPT.....the grace, power and purpose of my FOUNDATION.
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The fire is coming to test the works of ALL His children. Judgement is coming....and it begins with us. The Lord is preparing to judge Laodicea. We need to take a look at His letter to Laodicea. And don't be surprised if more Laodiceans show up.
Jostler
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Malachi 3:2-3 NKJV — “But who can endure the day of His coming?
And who can stand when He appears?
For He is like a refiner’s fire
And like launderers’ soap. He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver;
He will purify the sons of Levi,
And purge them as gold and silver,
That they may offer to the LORD
An offering in righteousness.
And who can stand when He appears?
For He is like a refiner’s fire
And like launderers’ soap. He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver;
He will purify the sons of Levi,
And purge them as gold and silver,
That they may offer to the LORD
An offering in righteousness.
Jostler
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Probably enough for now. But soon, we need to get a better look at Laodicea
Jostler
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1 Peter 4:17 NKJV — For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
DID is only something I can imagine, and even just that alone is a range of mountains to move. It is wonderful how The Lord placed you three here. My heart and prayers go out to all of you and the very many who are still under their power. I know there are many different alters to deal with and this un raveling can take time.
Praise God that He has pulled you out and that you can deal with these things with His help and our prayers.
God bless you brother, and look up, for your redemption draws nigh!
LOVE it!!!! And, saving it to my playlist! thanks :)
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I believe, reading through these comments, the zeal for the Lord amigo has may have led his speech and intentions to have become unintentional stumbling blocks, provoking you all. We should not chastise him though, for it seems with effective communication we may all hopefully come to a place of peaceful understanding and coherence in Christ...
Do not be afraid of sudden terror,
Nor of trouble from the wicked
when it comes;
For the LORD will be your confidence,
And will keep your foot from being caught.
(Proverbs 3:25-26)
Anxiety in the heart of man causes depression,
But a good word makes it glad.
(Proverbs 12:25)
I believe amigo was trying to foster good word to make your hearts glad, rather than foster anxiety. I do not doubt the contents of the statements in this thread, but what may be of concern is how vibrant this thread of nearly 100 pages is. Is it possible that this thread may itself prove to be a stumblingblock to those anxious and fearful hearts who may not be as well fortified with the armor to handle the contents? We all can imagine the enemy preys on those seized by fear.
For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore "put away from yourselves the evil person."
(1 Corinthians 5:12-13)
I fully recognize the need to expel those wicked ones from our churches, as directed by Paul. Unfortunately, I see the state our present day church is in and how these wickedoers have infiltrated at an alarming rate. Certainly, we must take the appropriate action and stay sober and vigilant (1 Peter 5:8-9), but we all know vengeance is the Lord's and that their foot shall indeed slip in due time (Deuteronomy 32:35). Let us not give them so much of our attention and time, which I know is easier said than done. Please believe me, I too have dealt with my fair share of trauma, trauma that dominated my mind in every aspect. But let us heed the tribulations of Paul for solace...
And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messanger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmites, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
(2 Corinthians 12:7-10)
"[His] strength is made perfect in weakness". If this man Paul, let alone the Son of God, was made to go through such distress and suffering, should we not consider ourselves so fortunate to do the same? Please do not misunderstand me, I am not celebrating the sufferings described in this thread, but the Lord does not give anyone more than they can handle (1 Corinthians 10:13). How worthy the Lord must consider all you survivors who have endured such hardship!
I hope my words do not offend, I only wish to do good. At the end of the day, we have all surely read what will happen to those wickedoers who practice sorcery, enchantments, divination, witchcraft, etc. in the books of Moses, Isaiah, the Epistles, Revelation, etc. The Lord shall deal with them as He sees fit, we take no part in it. Brothers and sisters, I humbly and simply desire to see us not give their works so much time and to not delve into so much detail, some of which is maybe not so necessary. This may unintentionally foster fear and anxiety, which it seems God does not intend for his children to have (2 Timothy 1:7).
I pray for you all many nights, the specific survivors in this thread, among those who have dealt with unimaginable hardship, that the Lord may grant you all respite if He will. God bless you all <3
I know you mean well, but you also speak without understanding of what SRA and MK Ultra are and how dissociation works. Every survivor here is an overcomer through Jesus Christ, facing giants most would run and cower from.
Your prayers are appreciated. But again, no survivor who gains freedom should run from their fears.
Amigo and most Christians like him stop their ears and close their eyes to the cries of the suffering. The truth is, he is fearful to even know what we and others like us have seen and experienced. Most who fill the churches are very fearful. That's why they stand in judgment rather than stand beside the suffering. The church is dissociative. God showed me that years ago after my 5 children and I were raped and tortured on Mother's Day in retaliation by the cult ...a punishment to me for resisting them. I went to my sisters and brothers in my church for help (prayer support, not money) and they kicked me out. They were fearful.
Tell me, could you stand the persecution that survivors face when they embark on the journey to freedom? Could you stand against them under threat of death and torture? What if they put a bullet through your wall aiming at you while you do your dishes, and the local police can do nothing because the cult controls the town and the county? What if they steal your grandchild and let you know they are trafficking her to the White House (during the TRUMP administration, no less!!)? Or, what if they made good on those death threats and kill your child? Could you still stand? Could you continue to serve God if, after your child is taken, you are under daily threat of kidnapping, rapes, and torture?? Don't come here speaking without knowledge and understanding of the immense price we pay every single day.
On top of those things which are my personal experience, most of us face stalking, harassments, gunshots, pets killed, home invasions, EMF targeting, electronic harassments, street theater, etc, etc, etc....on a present, daily basis.
We are trying to help you and him and others know is ....your local churches DO have active cult members posing as Christians. I could come to your church and verify it, although you probably wouldn't believe me.
What are you doing in your local church/es to foster an environment for survivors to come to freedom so that your church isn't used for child trafficking and satanic ritual activity after hours? Preaching at them isn't going to do it. Do you have the heart to reach them? Then please, ask God for wisdom and understanding.
Your prayers are appreciated. But again, no survivor who gains freedom should run from their fears.
Amigo and most Christians like him stop their ears and close their eyes to the cries of the suffering. The truth is, he is fearful to even know what we and others like us have seen and experienced. Most who fill the churches are very fearful. That's why they stand in judgment rather than stand beside the suffering. The church is dissociative. God showed me that years ago after my 5 children and I were raped and tortured on Mother's Day in retaliation by the cult ...a punishment to me for resisting them. I went to my sisters and brothers in my church for help (prayer support, not money) and they kicked me out. They were fearful.
Tell me, could you stand the persecution that survivors face when they embark on the journey to freedom? Could you stand against them under threat of death and torture? What if they put a bullet through your wall aiming at you while you do your dishes, and the local police can do nothing because the cult controls the town and the county? What if they steal your grandchild and let you know they are trafficking her to the White House (during the TRUMP administration, no less!!)? Or, what if they made good on those death threats and kill your child? Could you still stand? Could you continue to serve God if, after your child is taken, you are under daily threat of kidnapping, rapes, and torture?? Don't come here speaking without knowledge and understanding of the immense price we pay every single day.
On top of those things which are my personal experience, most of us face stalking, harassments, gunshots, pets killed, home invasions, EMF targeting, electronic harassments, street theater, etc, etc, etc....on a present, daily basis.
We are trying to help you and him and others know is ....your local churches DO have active cult members posing as Christians. I could come to your church and verify it, although you probably wouldn't believe me.
What are you doing in your local church/es to foster an environment for survivors to come to freedom so that your church isn't used for child trafficking and satanic ritual activity after hours? Preaching at them isn't going to do it. Do you have the heart to reach them? Then please, ask God for wisdom and understanding.
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The Lord redeems the time: for every adversity there is a blessing; for every trial, a strengthening; and for every desolate place, a revelation.
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring charges against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, but rather, was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or trouble, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? Just as it is written:
“For Your sake we are killed all day long;
We were regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”
(Romans 8:31-36)
And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.
What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring charges against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, but rather, was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or trouble, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? Just as it is written:
“For Your sake we are killed all day long;
We were regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”
(Romans 8:31-36)
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Great song, "I must go through the valley, to stand upon the mountain of God"!! Love that line. We will fight till our last breath my friend. Even though we will end up with Jesus, we will be battered and bruised but take heart, He is by our side no matter what we face and, some have much larger hurdles to clear.
God bless and keep you and heal ALL of you!
So many will be on a fast track to hell. They think nobody knows what they are doing? Blind they are...
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Hi @Nancy. I have seen her videos before and I don't recommend her because she presents the idea that alters are evil, on the level of demons that one should be "delivered from." She also prays in ways that isn't lawful. It's very subtle, but she is attempting to control alters using warfare prayer and that is witchcraft. Anytime we try to control a person's humanity, it is unlawful and witchcraft. God doesn't deliver us of alters. Rather, He brings all the broken pieces together and mends us. He doesn't remove alters.
When she raises her voice and repeats words over and over ....that isn't necessary. She is speaking to have her voice heard. If she's walking in Christ, one command is enough. Demons aren't deaf. You can pray in a whisper and still cast demons out. I've done it. :)