The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

[Addy]

You bear false witness. I'm allergic to corn.

OH my goodness... you are at least funny.... VERY GOOD.... I will be more gentle on you...

To be honest... I have NO recollection of posting on this thread... but you quoted me so obviously I am unable to deny.

I have chosen to AVOID these types of discussions as I find them fruitless... and so you must have caught me on a bad day.

 

[Kermos]

@Kermos ... Well Goody Gum drops for you.... So nice that you have all this time on your hands.

More play on words and preoccupation with accusing the brethren.. GOOD GRIEF!!!!

Your post is devoid of scripture, just like your thoughts about free will.

A word about your thoughts. It is written, "'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,' declares the LORD. 'For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.'" (Isaiah 55:8-9).

A word about adding to scripture as you have done. It is written "do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar" (Proverbs 30:6), and the above explanation of your thoughts shows where you added to scripture.

Of the new Jerusalem, the Apostle John wrote "nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life" (Revelation 21:27) - notice that no one who practices lying gets in, and a human adding to scripture is the human lying.

Your free will assertion is referring to man attempting to override God's thoughts with man's thoughts, and that is evil.

 

[friend of]

Since you believe the word "world" means every single person everywhere in the extracted phrase "God so loved the world" (John 3:16) as you try to subtract the surrounding context, then based on your linguistical approach this means that you believe Jesus does the works of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons, since Jesus spoke this sequence of words out of His mouth "I by Beelzebub cast out demons" (Matthew 12:27), so this means you further believe that "Jesus is a demon" since Beelzebub is the ruler of demons

What are you talking about? None of this logically follows.

 

[Addy]

Your post is devoid of scripture, just like your thoughts about free will.

A word about your thoughts. It is written, "'For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,' declares the LORD. 'For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.'" (Isaiah 55:8-9).

A word about adding to scripture as you have done. It is written "do not add to His words or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar" (Proverbs 30:6), and the above explanation of your thoughts shows where you added to scripture.

Of the new Jerusalem, the Apostle John wrote "nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life" (Revelation 21:27) - notice that no one who practices lying gets in, and a human adding to scripture is the human lying.

Your free will assertion is referring to man attempting to override God's thoughts with man's thoughts, and that is evil.

I liked you better when you were funny.... sorry about the corn allergy... I did not get past your first sentence here... NO Interest in being attacked today.... Have a good one....

 

[Kermos]

What are you talking about? None of this logically follows.

It most certainly does follow. I gavy you the link to the full scriptural explanation, so it is available to you.

You chop up the Word in John 3:14-16, so it follows that based on your linguistical approach to John 3:16 means that you believe Jesus does the works of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons, since Jesus spoke this sequence of words out of His mouth "I by Beelzebub cast out demons" (Matthew 12:27), so this means you further believe that "Jesus is a demon" since Beelzebub is the ruler of demons.

 

[Kermos]

I liked you better when you were funny.... sorry about the corn allergy... I did not get past your first sentence here... NO Interest in being attacked today.... Have a good one....

It sounds like you have no interest in the Word of God unless you get to tell the Word what is what - expounding your free will - unlike Mary Who sat at the Word's feet LISTENING (Luke 10:39).

 

[Addy]

It sounds like you have no interest in the Word of God unless you get to tell the Word what is what - expounding your free will - unlike Mary Who sat at the Word's feet LISTENING (Luke 10:39).

It SOUNDS like you did not read the part where I said I cannot even remember posting on this thread.... and you snipped off the relevance of what I said so I can't even find it... AND... I am not about to go through 66 pages like you found the interest in doing...
I have no interest in conversing with those who have nothing better to do than CONDEMN... so... again.. I am so very sorry for your corn allergy... You are NOW on IGNORE.... which means... I will not be able to see ANYTHING you post... and I shall have peace in the valley once more.

 

[post]

Support for universalism.

Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ and then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
(Matthew 7:23-23)​

all possible support for universalism ((& also works-righteousness)) destroyed.

 

[friend of]

It most certainly does follow. I gavy you the link to the full scriptural explanation, so it is available to you.

You chop up the Word in John 3:14-16, so it follows that based on your linguistical approach to John 3:16 means that you believe Jesus does the works of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons, since Jesus spoke this sequence of words out of His mouth "I by Beelzebub cast out demons" (Matthew 12:27), so this means you further believe that "Jesus is a demon" since Beelzebub is the ruler of demons.

No man. That still doesn't make any sense. People like you who go around accusing others of blasphemy should take a look in the mirror. It is not wise to be wise in your own sight man.

 

[HisLife]

Your post is devoid of scripture, just like your thoughts about free will.

John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[Addy]

@HisLife... apparently that scripture that you just posted is what got me TAGGED in the first place... I have no recollection of even
responding to this thread... BUT... Kermit went through 66 pages to find it... AMAZING.

 

[HisLife]

@HisLife... apparently that scripture that you just posted is what got me TAGGED in the first place... I have no recollection of even
responding to this thread... BUT... Kermit went through 66 pages to find it... AMAZING.

That's why I quoted it...I wanted in on this group and party...Kermit you say, I do know a few things about frogs, and he seams like a really nice person to chat with, So had to jump in

 

[Addy]

That's why I quoted it...I wanted in on this group and party...Kermit you say, I do know a few things about frogs, and he seams like a really nice person to chat with, So had to jump in

Well actually my bad... I typed Kermit... but meant Kermos. I think I will leave it as is.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

In Rom. 5:8, Paul says "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."No, it is not a myth that Christ died for the whole world. This statement is 100% consistent with what Christ stated in Jhn 3:17: "“For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved." Both statements are also 100% consistent with John the Baptizer saying "“Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!"(Jhn 1:29).

In order for the world to be saved through Christ, His death would have to able to apply to the world. The inherent problem with your position is that it is not based on using the Isa. 28:10 principle. You are using passages where Christ's sacrifice is discussed solely in relation to the members of His Church without looking at the passages where that sacrifice was discussed in relation to the bigger picture of what God wants to do with humanity as a whole.

 

[HisLife]

Well actually my bad... I typed Kermit... but meant Kermos. I think I will leave it as is.

I see... well im sure you will get charged with something for that huuuuge error, I actually just read the last page because I saw you posting away in here...Hi buddy...still haven't received my BBq invite hmmmm....So whats the big problem tho, is he trying to say you don't have free will, be hard to express Love without Freewill wouldn't it....not sure what Im dealing with maybe I should go spend my day reading 67 pages to catch up....Will document anyone that mentions Love, arrrghhhh......

 

[Addy]

I see... well im sure you will get charged with something for that huuuuge error, I actually just read the last page because I saw you posting away in here...Hi buddy...still haven't received my BBq invite hmmmm....So whats the big problem tho, is he trying to say you don't have free will, be hard to express Love without Freewill wouldn't it....not sure what Im dealing with maybe I should go spend my day reading 67 pages to catch up....Will document anyone that mentions Love, arrrghhhh......

UUUUUMMMM.. if you are talking to me about BBQ invite.... ARE you telling me that BB never sent it out?? WE are all good to go.. EXCEPT for the little issue with the weather over there... so not sure how we are going to take care of that.

 

[HisLife]

UUUUUMMMM.. if you are talking to me about BBQ invite.... ARE you telling me that BB never sent it out?? WE are all good to go.. EXCEPT for the little issue with the weather over there... so not sure how we are going to take care of that.

Nope BB never sent it... or My $1000 dollars to cover expenses... still checking the letter box like he told me, in fact every morning without fail even in the frost, sure it will turn up soon tho

 

[Tong2020]

I went through 66 pages of this thread looking for people who used "loved the world" as a support for all men without exception, and I found all the following quoted people.





















That's it for the quoted people, brightfame52, and now I'm moving into referring to them in the second person - no longer referring to brightfame52 as "you".

The phrase "for God so loved the world" (John 3:16) is part of a larger sentence (John 3:14-16) as scripturally detailed in this thread that remains on this site, so every one of you removed the phrase from it's sentence thus you removed context, that is, you wickedly subtracted from the Word of God.

Since you believe the word "world" means every single person everywhere in the extracted phrase "God so loved the world" (John 3:16) as you try to subtract the surrounding context, then based on your linguistical approach this means that you believe Jesus does the works of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons, since Jesus spoke this sequence of words out of His mouth "I by Beelzebub cast out demons" (Matthew 12:27), so this means you further believe that "Jesus is a demon" since Beelzebub is the ruler of demons.

Be careful in your accusation there. And be careful not to be guilty of false accusation.

Tong
R3779

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Nope BB never sent it... or My $1000 dollars to cover expenses... still checking the letter box like he told me, in fact every morning without fail even in the frost, sure it will turn up soon tho

Uhhhhh.....I may have sent that big check to “ justbyfaithplusluckyrepentance” by mistake....he May have accidentally flushed it during one of his “ poo-poo” visions.....

 

[brightfame52]

He died for the seed of Abraham !

That God dealt specifically with the Nation of Israel, they were a type, in That he was indicating that He had a interest in a specific People, and not all people in the world. So that's why when He became incarnate, He took on the seed of a specific people ,the seed of Abraham Heb 2:16

16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. cp Gal 3:29

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

You see, contrary to what people teach and believe, Abraham's seed is comprised of both jew and gentile if they are of Faith. Now it was necessary that He should take part of the same flesh of blood, in which His Children Heb 2:13390

13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

had transgressed the Law in Adam, so He could legally be identified with them in their low state.

He only identified with their sins, not with the sins of all people without exception. The key for the universality of His death, is that the specific seed of Abraham was universal Gen 17:5

5 Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.