Always focus on doing Good

[Marc RL Ministry]

Genesis 4:6-7 CGB

6Adonai said to Kayin, “Why are you angry? Why so downcast? 7If you are doing what is good, shouldn’t you hold your head high? And if you don’t do what is good, sin is crouching at the door — it wants you, but you can rule over it.”

When we focus on doing good it makes it very hard to sin if we remain focused on doing good it helps us harness our sin without even having to think about it, how do we do this? by following the two greatest commandments to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and treat everyone we come across as equal to our selves.

 

[amadeus]

Genesis 4:6-7 CGB

6Adonai said to Kayin, “Why are you angry? Why so downcast? 7If you are doing what is good, shouldn’t you hold your head high? And if you don’t do what is good, sin is crouching at the door — it wants you, but you can rule over it.”

When we focus on doing good it makes it very hard to sin if we remain focused on doing good it helps us harness our sin without even having to think about it, how do we do this? by following the two greatest commandments to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and treat everyone we come across as equal to our selves.

And to do good and continue to do so, should not our eyes be continually focusing on the One who is good, God alone?

 

[Robert Gwin]

Genesis 4:6-7 CGB

6Adonai said to Kayin, “Why are you angry? Why so downcast? 7If you are doing what is good, shouldn’t you hold your head high? And if you don’t do what is good, sin is crouching at the door — it wants you, but you can rule over it.”

When we focus on doing good it makes it very hard to sin if we remain focused on doing good it helps us harness our sin without even having to think about it, how do we do this? by following the two greatest commandments to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and treat everyone we come across as equal to our selves.

There is no doubt whatsoever that Jesus was the greatest man who ever lived, in my opinion he was not only good, but great! Those who knew him felt that way as well, and actually tried to make him a King, but it was not yet time.

Interestingly however, one time when someone called Jesus good, he chastised them, stating that only God was good. Doing good is essential for a Christian, yet most people whom I have met who do not follow Jesus, would consider themselves good as well, and of course there is no doubt that they do many good things. Doing good scripturally as a Christian of course is quite another matter, when a Christian does good, what would you say they would be doing sir?

 

[amadeus]

There is no doubt whatsoever that Jesus was the greatest man who ever lived, in my opinion he was not only good, but great! Those who knew him felt that way as well, and actually tried to make him a King, but it was not yet time.

Interestingly however, one time when someone called Jesus good, he chastised them, stating that only God was good. Doing good is essential for a Christian, yet most people whom I have met who do not follow Jesus, would consider themselves good as well, and of course there is no doubt that they do many good things. Doing good scripturally as a Christian of course is quite another matter, when a Christian does good, what would you say they would be doing sir?

Of course, Jesus confirmed that God was the only Good One. So then is there no other real Good in the multitudes of men?

Now then presuming that the Holy Ghost is God or a manifestation of God or a gift of God, what about the ones filled here?

"And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,..." Acts 2:4

Are there any people, who have Not been filled the Holy Ghost, doing good? How so? Perhaps everyone made in the image of God even after dying as per Gen 2:17 God was left with a glimmer [Light] of Hope [Gen 3:15], a slight resemblance to God which was good so as to enable them to walk toward the greater Light of Jesus in which there was Light and Life indeed. of Good indeed... not merely a shadow or glimmer?

Some of those with only that little glimmer for different reasons never move much or at all toward Jesus, but they do, [some of them], manage to accomplish really good things by means of the little glimmer within. No, it is not enough for an unending seven fold Light but it may be noticeable while they are here to someone paying attention and has a little bit of discernment

Was not John writing about them here?

"That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world." John 1:9

That was speaking of every person born of woman, not every person born from above or born again!

 

[Robert Gwin]

Of course, Jesus confirmed that God was the only Good One. So then is there no other real Good in the multitudes of men?

Now then presuming that the Holy Ghost is God or a manifestation of God or a gift of God, what about the ones filled here?

"And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost,..." Acts 2:4

Are there any people, who have Not been filled the Holy Ghost, doing good? How so? Perhaps everyone made in the image of God even after dying as per Gen 2:17 God was left with a glimmer [Light] of Hope [Gen 3:15], a slight resemblance to God which was good so as to enable them to walk toward the greater Light of Jesus in which there was Light and Life indeed. of Good indeed... not merely a shadow or glimmer?

Some of those with only that little glimmer for different reasons never move much or at all toward Jesus, but they do, [some of them], manage to accomplish really good things by means of the little glimmer within. No, it is not enough for an unending seven fold Light but it may be noticeable while they are here to someone paying attention and has a little bit of discernment

Was not John writing about them here?

"That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world." John 1:9

That was speaking of every person born of woman, not every person born from above or born again!

You posted some insight on identifying the holy ghost sir, they all became filled with it, not a being to say the least, rather a force. God's holy spirit is used in many ways, as well as translated into several English words.

Light figuratively is understanding Amadeus. With all being created in God's image, doing good is a quality that we all possess, so even those who have not received the holy spirit can easily do good. Many do. Most Christians are not spirit begotten John, rather they make up the other sheep. Jn 10:16; the actual citizens of the Kingdom of God.

 

[amadeus]

You posted some insight on identifying the holy ghost sir, they all became filled with it, not a being to say the least, rather a force. God's holy spirit is used in many ways, as well as translated into several English words.

Light figuratively is understanding Amadeus. With all being created in God's image, doing good is a quality that we all possess, so even those who have not received the holy spirit can easily do good. Many do. Most Christians are not spirit begotten John, rather they make up the other sheep. Jn 10:16; the actual citizens of the Kingdom of God.

I am careful about getting too much into the details what you are speaking about here simply because I do not really know some of the things even though I might believe or suspect certain things.

What I will say... and here some who read it here may indeed take issue with it... is that being born again or born from above is NOT what a whole lot of people called Christians frequently say that it is. Could I also be wrong? Who is always right?

Babies are alive already while still in their natural mother's womb. They do not see natural light until they have descended all the way through the birth canal and out in the light. Even then apparently good, clear vision is not immediately theirs. The eyes may be closed and even when open they are unable to focus clearly and they certainly cannot render any judgement one way or the other on what is right before those little infant eyes.

I see rebirth in a similar way. Some people are conceived in the womb of the Church, but never come on down through the canal and into the Light of God [that is real Life, the Life which Jesus was sent to bring]. Some come out into the Light but remain indefinitely or forever blind still to what God does have for them. Stuck in the womb or in birth canal or even all the way outside but with no vision, have they truly been fully born again or born from above?

Too many presume they have rebirth, I believe, in error. The fruits? They have lied to themselves or believed the lies of others about these things. I say "lie" but this does not mean that there is purposeful deception involved. A lie is an untruth, but it may be an unintentionally expressed lie.

Someone who never really loves the Truth of God or has lost any love for the Truth of God that he did have... may also be deluded, believing he has something, which he does not. Quite a dilemma it would seem and really is for probably too many... but God has a solution for someone who continues to sincerely search for it...

3000 years ago Solomon was inspired by God to write this:

"Where there is no vision, the people perish:... Prov 29:18

I do not believe he was talking about natural eyesight. He was talking about the same vision Jesus and Paul would speak about 1000 years later and about which we may read in the Bible today, if we have been given "eyes to see"... which to me are found in the Holy Ghost in a person...

 

[Robert Gwin]

I am careful about getting too much into the details what you are speaking about here simply because I do not really know some of the things even though I might believe or suspect certain things.

What I will say... and here some who read it here may indeed take issue with it... is that being born again or born from above is NOT what a whole lot of people called Christians frequently say that it is. Could I also be wrong? Who is always right?

Babies are alive already while still in their natural mother's womb. They do not see natural light until they have descended all the way through the birth canal and out in the light. Even then apparently good, clear vision is not immediately theirs. The eyes may be closed and even when open they are unable to focus clearly and they certainly cannot render any judgement one way or the other on what is right before those little infant eyes.

I see rebirth in a similar way. Some people are conceived in the womb of the Church, but never come on down through the canal and into the Light of God [that is real Life, the Life which Jesus was sent to bring]. Some come out into the Light but remain indefinitely or forever blind still to what God does have for them. Stuck in the womb or in birth canal or even all the way outside but with no vision, have they truly been fully born again or born from above?

Too many presume they have rebirth, I believe, in error. The fruits? They have lied to themselves or believed the lies of others about these things. I say "lie" but this does not mean that there is purposeful deception involved. A lie is an untruth, but it may be an unintentionally expressed lie.

Someone who never really loves the Truth of God or has lost any love for the Truth of God that he did have... may also be deluded, believing he has something, which he does not. Quite a dilemma it would seem and really is for probably too many... but God has a solution for someone who continues to sincerely search for it...

3000 years ago Solomon was inspired by God to write this:

"Where there is no vision, the people perish:... Prov 29:18

I do not believe he was talking about natural eyesight. He was talking about the same vision Jesus and Paul would speak about 1000 years later and about which we may read in the Bible today, if we have been given "eyes to see"... which to me are found in the Holy Ghost in a person...

In simple terms Amadeus, born again is another term for anointed.

 

[amadeus]

In simple terms Amadeus, born again is another term for anointed.

I believe I can agree with that. Seeing it that way helps me understand the difference between what is available today and what most people in the OT were not able to have. David was anointed and a few others were anointed, but it did not make them infallible. Those few who were so anointed in the OT it would seem to me were like the born again people of today. In the OT the average fellow has to look to the prophet or priest truly sent by God. to intercede for them. Today anyone can make a direct contact with the Intercessor via the Holy Spirit.

I see no guaranteed salvation because a person has been anointed [born again]. David the king received precisely the same anointing from God as Saul the king... and the same man of God, Samuel, was the vehicle God used to make the delivery... yet we see very different results for the two men.

 

[Enoch111]

Interestingly however, one time when someone called Jesus good, he chastised them, stating that only God was good.

He chastised this man because he failed to acknowledge that Jesus is God. Only God is good, and since Jesus is God, only He is good and perfect (with the Father and the Holy Spirit). But you do not believe that Jesus is God.

Getting back to the OP, the meaning of loving your neighbor is indeed doing good to all men, even to your enemies. Which includes warning all men about that which is false, that which is evil, and that which is harmful.

Some Christians do not believe that warning others about the dangers which surround them and lie ahead is a part of loving your neighbor. But Christ and the apostles constantly warned Christians. And Noah spent 120 years warning the world of judgment to come. He is called a "preacher of righteousness".

Let's take the current COVID scamdemic and the bogus vaccines which are a designed hazard to everyone. How many Christians felt that it is their Christian duty to investigate this global scam and expose it? How many Christians thoroughly researched these dangerous and toxic "vaccines" and exposed them for what they truly are -- poisons to kill or maim their recipients? How many churches carefully examined the tyrannical government policies meant to shut down churches, and absolutely refused to go along with the scam? Churches were deemed "non-essential" while liquor stores were deemed "essential"! And yet too many Christians and churches voluntarily submitted to this nonsense instead of challenging governments by going to court to prove their case.

When Paul was arrested for his witness, he appealed to Caesar (the highest "court" in the Roman empire). That would be the same as Christians taking governments to the Supreme Court today and charging them with violating constitutions, and also crimes against humanity (via the vaccines). There should have been massive Christian protests against the lockdown of churches, and lockdowns in general (which accomplished absolutely nothing). But none of that happened.

There should already have been Nuremberg 2 by now, but those who talked about this recently have failed to follow through. Should Christians be warning the world about these crimes against humanity? Did Christians stand by while the Nazis committed their atrocities? Some did but many did not. Now the same atrocities are being committed through bogus vaccines, and most Christians are simply standing by. Is this not a part of "doing good"? Naturally the Gospel takes precedence over everything else, but taking people out of harm's way is also a Christian duty.

There are some very pertinent verses in the Torah which are applicable for those who have ears to hear:

ZERO ACCOUNTABILTY TODAY
And if a man shall open a pit, or if a man shall dig a pit, and not cover it, and an ox or an ass fall therein; The owner of the pit shall make it good, and give money unto the owner of them; and the dead beast shall be his.(Exod 21:33,34)

Is anyone being compensated for the unnecessary COVID deaths and vaccine deaths? No pharmaceutical company, government, public health official, or doctor is being held accountable today. And effective treatments such as ivermectin and HCQ were literally sabotaged in order to increase the death rates! They continue to be sabotaged.

THE CHRISTIAN'S DUTY
If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again. If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him. (Exod 23:4,5)

Thou shalt not see thy brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt in any case bring them again unto thy brother. And if thy brother be not nigh unto thee, or if thou know him not, then thou shalt bring it unto thine own house, and it shall be with thee until thy brother seek after it, and thou shalt restore it to him again. In like manner shalt thou do with his ass; and so shalt thou do with his raiment; and with all lost thing of thy brother's, which he hath lost, and thou hast found, shalt thou do likewise: thou mayest not hide thyself. Thou shalt not see thy brother's ass or his ox fall down by the way, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt surely help him to lift them up again. (Deut 22:1-4)

 

[Robert Gwin]

I believe I can agree with that. Seeing it that way helps me understand the difference between what is available today and what most people in the OT were not able to have. David was anointed and a few others were anointed, but it did not make them infallible. Those few who were so anointed in the OT it would seem to me were like the born again people of today. In the OT the average fellow has to look to the prophet or priest truly sent by God. to intercede for them. Today anyone can make a direct contact with the Intercessor via the Holy Spirit.

I see no guaranteed salvation because a person has been anointed [born again]. David the king received precisely the same anointing from God as Saul the king... and the same man of God, Samuel, was the vehicle God used to make the delivery... yet we see very different results for the two men.

Our intercessor is Jesus as I am sure you would agree, I Tim 2:5; Jn 14:6. We approach God directly through Jesus sir, I think that is what you meant to say Mat 6:9 Jn 15:16

 

[Robert Gwin]

He chastised this man because he failed to acknowledge that Jesus is God. Only God is good, and since Jesus is God, only He is good and perfect (with the Father and the Holy Spirit). But you do not believe that Jesus is God.

Getting back to the OP, the meaning of loving your neighbor is indeed doing good to all men, even to your enemies. Which includes warning all men about that which is false, that which is evil, and that which is harmful.

Some Christians do not believe that warning others about the dangers which surround them and lie ahead is a part of loving your neighbor. But Christ and the apostles constantly warned Christians. And Noah spent 120 years warning the world of judgment to come. He is called a "preacher of righteousness".

Let's take the current COVID scamdemic and the bogus vaccines which are a designed hazard to everyone. How many Christians felt that it is their Christian duty to investigate this global scam and expose it? How many Christians thoroughly researched these dangerous and toxic "vaccines" and exposed them for what they truly are -- poisons to kill or maim their recipients? How many churches carefully examined the tyrannical government policies meant to shut down churches, and absolutely refused to go along with the scam? Churches were deemed "non-essential" while liquor stores were deemed "essential"! And yet too many Christians and churches voluntarily submitted to this nonsense instead of challenging governments by going to court to prove their case.

When Paul was arrested for his witness, he appealed to Caesar (the highest "court" in the Roman empire). That would be the same as Christians taking governments to the Supreme Court today and charging them with violating constitutions, and also crimes against humanity (via the vaccines). There should have been massive Christian protests against the lockdown of churches, and lockdowns in general (which accomplished absolutely nothing). But none of that happened.

There should already have been Nuremberg 2 by now, but those who talked about this recently have failed to follow through. Should Christians be warning the world about these crimes against humanity? Did Christians stand by while the Nazis committed their atrocities? Some did but many did not. Now the same atrocities are being committed through bogus vaccines, and most Christians are simply standing by. Is this not a part of "doing good"? Naturally the Gospel takes precedence over everything else, but taking people out of harm's way is also a Christian duty.

There are some very pertinent verses in the Torah which are applicable for those who have ears to hear:

ZERO ACCOUNTABILTY TODAY
And if a man shall open a pit, or if a man shall dig a pit, and not cover it, and an ox or an ass fall therein; The owner of the pit shall make it good, and give money unto the owner of them; and the dead beast shall be his.(Exod 21:33,34)

Is anyone being compensated for the unnecessary COVID deaths and vaccine deaths? No pharmaceutical company, government, public health official, or doctor is being held accountable today. And effective treatments such as ivermectin and HCQ were literally sabotaged in order to increase the death rates! They continue to be sabotaged.

THE CHRISTIAN'S DUTY
If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again. If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him. (Exod 23:4,5)

Thou shalt not see thy brother's ox or his sheep go astray, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt in any case bring them again unto thy brother. And if thy brother be not nigh unto thee, or if thou know him not, then thou shalt bring it unto thine own house, and it shall be with thee until thy brother seek after it, and thou shalt restore it to him again. In like manner shalt thou do with his ass; and so shalt thou do with his raiment; and with all lost thing of thy brother's, which he hath lost, and thou hast found, shalt thou do likewise: thou mayest not hide thyself. Thou shalt not see thy brother's ass or his ox fall down by the way, and hide thyself from them: thou shalt surely help him to lift them up again. (Deut 22:1-4)

I guess we can settle this issue simply sir, it is not about yours or my opinion, who did Jesus himslef say he was?

 

[amigo de christo]

You posted some insight on identifying the holy ghost sir, they all became filled with it, not a being to say the least, rather a force. God's holy spirit is used in many ways, as well as translated into several English words.

Light figuratively is understanding Amadeus. With all being created in God's image, doing good is a quality that we all possess, so even those who have not received the holy spirit can easily do good. Many do. Most Christians are not spirit begotten John, rather they make up the other sheep. Jn 10:16; the actual citizens of the Kingdom of God.

Yes , even as a lost soul in grave danger of hellfire i could still do good things .
So yes folks can do good things , but they are not saved unless they believe in the One whom God did send . JESUS .
Believing from the heart that GOD has rose Him from the dead , confessing Him by mouth .
Many can do good things ,like i once could , yet they still love sin and have not come to the saving knowledge of JESUS CHRIST .
Salvation entails having to Believe and confess in Christ .

 

[amadeus]

Our intercessor is Jesus as I am sure you would agree, I Tim 2:5; Jn 14:6. We approach God directly through Jesus sir, I think that is what you meant to say Mat 6:9 Jn 15:16

Yes, the difference is now we can do what only a few especially anointed men, like David could in the OT. Other people in the OT needed those priests and prophets worse than we need the ministers God has given to us as per Ephesians 4:11ff. We need the help of such gifts of God [the ministers = the gifts] but we may move beyond that... or? That is for whosoever will now. In the OT because there was no perfect prophet or priest or intercessor, the need to repeat was always there. People do repeat now, but with God's help it is not necessary. We have had a better final Sacrifice, a better always available Intecessor. Where was their Comforter? Where is ours?

The temporal is not the way to go when you have a choice, but.. too often we simply do not make the best use of what God has provided.

 

[quietthinker]

There is something about the character of God which will either repel or attract. If it repels one's life is absorbed in image projection. If it attracts, one cannot help but want to emulate it.

 

[Cristo Rei]

Genesis 4:6-7 CGB

6Adonai said to Kayin, “Why are you angry? Why so downcast? 7If you are doing what is good, shouldn’t you hold your head high? And if you don’t do what is good, sin is crouching at the door — it wants you, but you can rule over it.”

When we focus on doing good it makes it very hard to sin if we remain focused on doing good it helps us harness our sin without even having to think about it, how do we do this? by following the two greatest commandments to love God with all our heart, mind and soul and treat everyone we come across as equal to our selves.

True... A good Christian wants to do good.
Sometimes, in hard times, I like to ask myself "what would Christ do in this situation?" When I do this I get sent the right way

 

[Robert Gwin]

Yes , even as a lost soul in grave danger of hellfire i could still do good things .
So yes folks can do good things , but they are not saved unless they believe in the One whom God did send . JESUS .
Believing from the heart that GOD has rose Him from the dead , confessing Him by mouth .
Many can do good things ,like i once could , yet they still love sin and have not come to the saving knowledge of JESUS CHRIST .
Salvation entails having to Believe and confess in Christ .

Yes sir I agree with all you say, but as regards the last sentence, although correct, one had best know what believe means, as I am sure you would agree, it is more than just having knowledge that Jesus existed, or holds a position of authority in God's organization. Do you agree? Salvation according to Jesus is given to those who do Jehovah's will as he said at Mat 7:21

 

[Robert Gwin]

Yes, the difference is now we can do what only a few especially anointed men, like David could in the OT. Other people in the OT needed those priests and prophets worse than we need the ministers God has given to us as per Ephesians 4:11ff. We need the help of such gifts of God [the ministers = the gifts] but we may move beyond that... or? That is for whosoever will now. In the OT because there was no perfect prophet or priest or intercessor, the need to repeat was always there. People do repeat now, but with God's help it is not necessary. We have had a better final Sacrifice, a better always available Intecessor. Where was their Comforter? Where is ours?

The temporal is not the way to go when you have a choice, but.. too often we simply do not make the best use of what God has provided.

Yes sir, isn't that much better than the other covenant. Sadly though a vast majority of people still put too much into serving God through human intercessors. I even see that problem in my faith.

 

[amadeus]

Yes sir, isn't that much better than the other covenant. Sadly though a vast majority of people still put too much into serving God through human intercessors. I even see that problem in my faith.

Yes, it is much better and because it is, God does expect more from us. Burying our God given "talent" in the earth is not going to please Him.

"But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money." Matt 25:18

"And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strowed:" Matt 25:25-26

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes sir I agree with all you say, but as regards the last sentence, although correct, one had best know what believe means, as I am sure you would agree, it is more than just having knowledge that Jesus existed, or holds a position of authority in God's organization. Do you agree? Salvation according to Jesus is given to those who do Jehovah's will as he said at Mat 7:21

The devils even believe and tremble , they KNOW Christ .
Yes its far more than head knowledge .

 

[Ziggy]

Sometimes, in hard times, I like to ask myself "what would Christ do in this situation?" When I do this I get sent the right way

Sometimes you will be put in that same situation to learn empathy.
No one knows what another feels until they've been through the same trial.
We can try to "imagine" what it feels like, and have sympathy.

If you ask, "What would Christ do in this situation?"
I would say hold on, you may get a chance to find out.
And if so, then it is a valuable gift to be prized.

Love thy enemies. Pray for them. But don't fall victim to their ways.
Don't let them take advantage of your emotions.
Don't let them play you like a fiddle.

Doing good is also chastising your brother/sister when you see them going astray.
Not wanting to watch them slide down that slippery slope to hell.

Jde 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

Even if it means walking through fire to save.

Empathy..
Been there, done that, I can relate..
Very important lesson to learn. And difficult to say the least.

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