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If you don't have Christian works you're not a Christian! James said so.

James 2:17 (NKJV)
17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

Your looking onto the verse wrong, I was trying to show you but you went straight to OSAS

When God works in someone's Life They will Have Works its guaranteed, the verse is pointing that out

But what Work and Whose, Like I said Without Jesus you can do nothing, Discuss Jesus Words without a OSAS Bias on things
 
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Wise post my brother and true, but if someone is unwilling to receive the gospel of salvation, everything else falls on dead ears.



....And as it was with Lydia, “ the Seller Of Purple” whose story was told in Acts 16....” God opened her heart to Receive the Gospel” the initiative for Salvation belongs to God ...
Lydia’s experience is indicative of the Truth that “ No man comes to God lest the Spirit draw him”....

If you are one of the Bible Ignorant people out there who thinks that they will wait until they are on their DeathBed to “ get right “ with God to stay out of Hell .....remember that it ain’t up to you to “ get the ball rolling” —- When it comes to getting Saved....God starts it and God finishes it.....Pray to God that He “ open your heart”....simply “ turn to Him”—— He can handle the rest....
 
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Your looking onto the verse wrong, I was trying to show you but you went straight to OSAS

When God works in someone's Life They will Have Works its guaranteed, the verse is pointing that out

But what Work and Whose, Like I said Without Jesus you can do nothing, Discuss Jesus Words without a OSAS Bias on things
Still doesn't mean you can't forsake God! Warnings are throughout the NT!

Written to Christians:

Philippians 2:12 (NKJV)
12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
 
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1 Corinthians 6:17 NKJV — But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

2 Timothy 2:13 NKJV — If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.


Galatians 3:3 NKJV — Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?
 

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Amen! Like we "should NOT FILTER" their Very FEW {obscure/difficult/dubious}
out-of-context/Misinterpreted/Misrepresented/Misunderstood 2 or 3? Bible verses
Through The "Lens" of God's 11-12 DOZEN Plain And Clear Sound Doctrinal Passages Of God's Pure And Holy Word Of Truth!

But do it The Other Way Around, eh?

Here is what it all comes down to ....those who oppose OSAS are not stupid.They have roughly 200 verses that appear to defend their position .Not bad.

Those that favor OSAS , however , have roughly 400 verses to stand upon...

Here is the difference: The verses that appear to validate the Doctrine that one can Lose their Salvation all have one of two problems —- the verses have either been taken out of context or they are verses NOT being addressed to the Body Of Christ .....they can be argued, for and against...

On the other hand, the verses that promote OSAS do not share those problems—- they are clear verses that can be taken as they are.... context and who the verses are addressing is not a problem....they are simple , to the point and can’t be seriously argued with by anyone who thinks truthfully and rationally .....

One can “ try “ to form an argument against “ Anybody that asks to be Saved WILL be Saved”..... one can “ try” to to form an argument against “ Turn to me with Faith in Jesus ,and I will save you to the Uttermost”......one can ”try” to argue with Jesus Christ Himself if you think the following is confusing ..... “ All those that Believe in Me ALREADY HAVE Eternal Life, and can NEVER come under Condemnation” ....Seriously, how does a sane man not understand the clarity of that verse......it Can’t be argued with......

The opposing side has several troubling verses for the OSAS adherent .....BUT.....if you investigate them , you will find that they are either taken out of context or are not being addressed to Born- Again Believers....One can’t make the same claim for the other side....

Never means Never and Uttermost means Uttermost.....Rational, honest thinkers deduce that God wants His Children to have the Assurance Of their Salvation and has bent over backwards to provide the verses that prove it.....”Joy” is a paramount Fruit Of the Spirit , mentioned very many times in Scripture—- God very Wants us to have it....If you have no “ Assurance “ Of your Salvation.....the Joyful Christian gets that way by knowing his Salvation was a Gift that can never be taken away....he Rests in the Finished Work Of The Cross .....too put it bluntly—- He knows that he is “ off the hook” .....the man with Faith problems , weak or non- existent .....he’s still “ on the hook” for his sins.....the Blood failed to do its Job.....Christ was crucified in vain.....what a pitiful, beggarly “ walk of Faith” some people live. —- assuming they have that “ walk” at all......
 

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“ All those that Believe in Me ALREADY HAVE Eternal Life, and can NEVER come under Condemnation” ....Seriously, how does a sane man not understand the clarity of that verse......it Can’t be argued with......
But you said you were saved even when you were an unbeliever, remember? Talk about insanity! And you should quote your Scriptures accurately.
 
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Those in the verse that mentions the antichrists were never of them, but that does not mean everone who ever falls away was never of us.

Context is your friend.
If they deny Christ in unbelief then John spoke of them

if they fell away because they returned to their sin (vomit). Then John said they have never seen Or known God.
So either way. They never knew God
 

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Hebrews 6:4-6 (NKJV)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, (Christians) ! 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.
 

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Osas is not the Gospel...Trust Jesus


One just can’t run around and take anything in the Bible that sounds good and call it, “The Gospel”......The True Gospel is very specific .....it is “ Paul’s Gospel” Found In 1Cor 15:1-4....Paul referred to this at least three times as “ HIS” Gospel.....

It is the “ Gospel” that one must believe to the point of Resting in it and not add to to become Saved ....
It is the “ Gospel” that God will judge you by ( Paul speaking— you will be judged by “ MY” Gospel)
It is the “ Gospel” that the “ Lost” consider “ Foolishness”
It is the “ Gospel” Given to Paul personally by Jesus and “ no man” ...

John 3:16 is “good news” ....it ain't the Gospel.....
Romans 10:13 is “good news”..... it ain’t the Gospel....

Once again, the Gospel is 1Cor15:1-4......
 

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Well Your probably better off not eating those things anyway, If you want me to fulfill your Golf duties I could fill in for that! I can take pics and send them to let you know how its going, I can break in your new motorcycle if you get one! can send pics of that as well.... hey I could come help out If you really need a hand, I can stay at your place rent free?.....Have a break from the cold weather.....free Golf, Harley rides, and I would find it no problem to cook your fish sticks when your too sore and miserable, its a win win!
What do you say buddy An extended summer Holiday?



Just don’t try to be a rival when it comes to making fish sticks.....it’s the extent of my cooking abilities.... I am serious.

I’ll take that $1000 that I “ robbed” jbf Of and use it to cover the expenses.... best be checking your snow- Covered mail box each day for what should have been jbf’s cash....lol...
 
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But you said you were saved even when you were an unbeliever, remember? Talk about insanity! And you should quote your Scriptures accurately.

Yes , I remember.....I must have been
“Crazy” , like you said........thank you pointing out my inability to quote Scripture accurately....I will try to better ...