Your Soul Is God-Given (Bible Study)

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MatthewG

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Hello,

Your very soul is God-given. As God had made Adam (mankind) from the dust of the earth he breathed into him, and he became a living soul.

Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

What's is significant about this? In my view, and opinion. When we came out of the womb, we were given the breath of life just as well as when Adam was created. The thing is about us, is while as an infant, until we can really know anything and understand. Infants that pass away I believe personally go on to be with God. When it comes down to us learning and knowing, that is when we really start to make choices, and it starts at an early age when start to walk, and when mom and dad tell us what is not good for us to do. What is significant about the soul, is that while we are in this body, and we can not see our soul it is basically our heart. Just as when God spoke his Word to create light, he was speaking from his heart, and thus the Word "created light." Our soul is what encompasses our mind/will/emotions within ourselves, and it's very important in learning that what we feed into it, we typically become. For a long time I fed my mind/will/emotions - with the onset of drugs, but not all this, lying, cheating, manipulation, discord, greed, jealousy. All of these things came natural. The only time when it started to change is when I started to feed it with the things of God. I suppose that is why Jesus said this.

Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

See what the world offers, is the worldly ways. Our soul takes in naturally from birth. When a child is taking a toy from another child, that is called jealousy, "it's mine not yours, and then the kid pushes the child down, or runs away." Leaving the other child, crying. Not to say this child wont do something spiteful, they may come up and hit the other child, and take the toy back.

These are all natural processes, of our soul, our heart, like I stated at the start, I believe that God is more lenient towards children, than he would be with a full grown adults (excluding - those whom are brain damaged with disabilities and such) who are fully able to take care of themselves.

The natural processes are simply shared, by Paul in a message he sent to Galatians, and also explained by Jesus.

Jesus shared in a quote from Mark 7: 15 It’s not what goes into your body that defiles you; you are defiled by what comes from your heart.”

Paul shared a similar notion, Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ultimately, seemingly to suggest that while our fleshly bodies will eventually tire out and given back up what was God-given in the first place, it will be assessed, and given according to how God judges. It seems he has two places for people. Jesus speaks about a resurrection of Condemnation, and a Resurrection of life, and Paul, and the writer of Hebrews both speaks of a better resurrection which is better than the normal.

Jesus states founded in John 5:29 and they will rise again. Those who have done good will rise to experience eternal life, and those who have continued in evil will rise to experience judgment.

Paul states to the people of Philippi, Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

Hebrews 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

What is interesting, about what Paul states to the people in Philippi is that "That I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings." Uh-oh! Sufferings? Fellowship of? His sufferings? In order to obtain the resurrection of the dead.

Sufferings. Good golly G! That is horrible, who wants to go about life suffering. Well, It's something Paul desired, and I believe these sufferings, are similar to the sufferings that Jesus Christ went through, for the Kingdom. Loving God, and loving others, is insufferable, or intolerable for us to do in the flesh. Remember the two children fighting? That is us, by nature of our soul, within the fleshly body that learns about this world through physical means.

So whats the answer? To suffer with Christ and pick up our own cross and bear our own burdens and abide in him it seems like. That is what Jesus must have meant when he stated.

Founded in the Gospel of Luke you can find Jesus stating Luke 14:“If you want to be my disciple, you must, by comparison, hate everyone else—your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even your own life. Otherwise, you cannot be my disciple.

Do we truly have to hate our father, mother, wife, and children, brothers and sisters? No, but we do not submit to them in the fashion that we do towards God. It's good to listen to mom and dad, but when you grow up, you have to make your own decisions. To feed oneself by the fleshly means, (which all of us have to do when it comes to food, having shelter, and a roof over our heads its a choice to work for these things), the fleshly means I am talking about are the greed, the jealous, the grudges, the hatred for others in the sense of disdain, some people even wish death upon others, these extremes are what I am talking about. Here is the answer.

Looking towards God in faith, in the Lord Yeshua, who died, was buried, and risen again, and looking towards him and what he has done, with ultimately change a persons heart, being born again by the spirit. Notice I said the heart changes, our (soul becomes fed with the things of God, which come from the Spirit given to us by God.)

Founded in the writing of Paul to the Romans in chapter 5 we see him say, Therefore, having been justified by faith, [a]we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces [b]perseverance; 4 and perseverance, [c]character; and character, hope. 5 Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

What are the tribulations that we experience, heart break, misunderstanding, being treated unfairly, all while loving God and loving others. I don't believe it something to just seek out by righteous indignation, but it will come about when it's done by abiding in Christ, and building the spiritual person up within you, in which He is able to help us by his strength. Love God, and Love others.

Founded in John, Jesus states 15:5 “Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing.

Im not saying we will be perfect but he will be perfect in us, though our flesh will fail, we know were we can stand in the face of all these troubles. "At peace with God" - within our God-given soul, that chooses to put God first, over the things the world itself can give us.

Paul wrote to the people in Galatians 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

Do you see how valuable God sees you? He loves you and cares for you, and his Son died, and was risen again by the Holy Spirit for you to have newness of life in and through him. Giving a rebirth of the spiritual deadness of the soul we have within us, which is God-given.

Paul wrote to the people in Romen concerning this saying 6: For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.

We become united with Christ, being born again in the spiritual means, which overlay among the flesh, which the soul has a change of heart (a changed direction in the mind/will/emotions.)
 

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Hello,

Your very soul is God-given. As God had made Adam (mankind) from the dust of the earth he breathed into him, and he became a living soul.



What's is significant about this? In my view, and opinion. When we came out of the womb, we were given the breath of life just as well as when Adam was created. The thing is about us, is while as an infant, until we can really know anything and understand. Infants that pass away I believe personally go on to be with God. When it comes down to us learning and knowing, that is when we really start to make choices, and it starts at an early age when start to walk, and when mom and dad tell us what is not good for us to do. What is significant about the soul, is that while we are in this body, and we can not see our soul it is basically our heart. Just as when God spoke his Word to create light, he was speaking from his heart, and thus the Word "created light." Our soul is what encompasses our mind/will/emotions within ourselves, and it's very important in learning that what we feed into it, we typically become. For a long time I fed my mind/will/emotions - with the onset of drugs, but not all this, lying, cheating, manipulation, discord, greed, jealousy. All of these things came natural. The only time when it started to change is when I started to feed it with the things of God. I suppose that is why Jesus said this.



See what the world offers, is the worldly ways. Our soul takes in naturally from birth. When a child is taking a toy from another child, that is called jealousy, "it's mine not yours, and then the kid pushes the child down, or runs away." Leaving the other child, crying. Not to say this child wont do something spiteful, they may come up and hit the other child, and take the toy back.

These are all natural processes, of our soul, our heart, like I stated at the start, I believe that God is more lenient towards children, than he would be with a full grown adults (excluding - those whom are brain damaged with disabilities and such) who are fully able to take care of themselves.

The natural processes are simply shared, by Paul in a message he sent to Galatians, and also explained by Jesus.





Ultimately, seemingly to suggest that while our fleshly bodies will eventually tire out and given back up what was God-given in the first place, it will be assessed, and given according to how God judges. It seems he has two places for people. Jesus speaks about a resurrection of Condemnation, and a Resurrection of life, and Paul, and the writer of Hebrews both speaks of a better resurrection which is better than the normal.



What is interesting, about what Paul states to the people in Philippi is that "That I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings." Uh-oh! Sufferings? Fellowship of? His sufferings? In order to obtain the resurrection of the dead.

Sufferings. Good golly G! That is horrible, who wants to go about life suffering. Well, It's something Paul desired, and I believe these sufferings, are similar to the sufferings that Jesus Christ went through, for the Kingdom. Loving God, and loving others, is insufferable, or intolerable for us to do in the flesh. Remember the two children fighting? That is us, by nature of our soul, within the fleshly body that learns about this world through physical means.

So whats the answer? To suffer with Christ and pick up our own cross and bear our own burdens and abide in him it seems like. That is what Jesus must have meant when he stated.



Do we truly have to hate our father, mother, wife, and children, brothers and sisters? No, but we do not submit to them in the fashion that we do towards God. It's good to listen to mom and dad, but when you grow up, you have to make your own decisions. To feed oneself by the fleshly means, (which all of us have to do when it comes to food, having shelter, and a roof over our heads its a choice to work for these things), the fleshly means I am talking about are the greed, the jealous, the grudges, the hatred for others in the sense of disdain, some people even wish death upon others, these extremes are what I am talking about. Here is the answer.

Looking towards God in faith, in the Lord Yeshua, who died, was buried, and risen again, and looking towards him and what he has done, with ultimately change a persons heart, being born again by the spirit. Notice I said the heart changes, our (soul becomes fed with the things of God, which come from the Spirit given to us by God.)



What are the tribulations that we experience, heart break, misunderstanding, being treated unfairly, all while loving God and loving others. I don't believe it something to just seek out by righteous indignation, but it will come about when it's done by abiding in Christ, and building the spiritual person up within you, in which He is able to help us by his strength. Love God, and Love others.



Im not saying we will be perfect but he will be perfect in us, though our flesh will fail, we know were we can stand in the face of all these troubles. "At peace with God" - within our God-given soul, that chooses to put God first, over the things the world itself can give us.



Do you see how valuable God sees you? He loves you and cares for you, and his Son died, and was risen again by the Holy Spirit for you to have newness of life in and through him. Giving a rebirth of the spiritual deadness of the soul we have within us, which is God-given.



We become united with Christ, being born again in the spiritual means, which overlay among the flesh, which the soul has a change of heart (a changed direction in the mind/will/emotions.)
You forget that man is born dichotomous- only a body and soul and as Paul wrote their spirit is dead because of trespasses and sins.

It is when we are literally "born again" from the Spirit that we have a spirit that is made alive and from that point a person can have fellowship with god.

Paul calls the soul, "the flesh" and it is in rebellion to god. As Paul wrote the flesh (soul) wars with teh spirit and the spirit with the flesh(soul.
 

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Yes, he wrote those things, Ronald. To me though the soul is the mind/will/emotions which ultimately leads how we are naturally (by our body - the flesh) and those things need to be fed with God. Similar to how the writer of Hebrews talks about people being babes in Christ needing spiritual milk, and also speaks about the meat of the word.



“You have been believers so long now that you ought to be teaching others. Instead, you need someone to teach you again the basic things about God’s word. You are like babies who need milk and cannot eat solid food. For someone who lives on milk is still an infant and doesn’t know how to do what is right. Solid food is for those who are mature, who through training have the skill to recognize the difference between right and wrong.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭5‬:‭12‬-‭14‬ ‭NLT‬‬
 

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What a soul means is nebulous, the word is even used in many different ways. A non-believer would not speak of a soul, the word would be meaningless to such, who will see things resulting from their mind, as a function of their body with its brain. What I might know of a soul I have as distinct from the body I have would need whatever precise use of scripture passages there are relevant for that. So there is such a soul, that I have, but others generally also each have a soul. Not just human people either.

In Genesis 1:29-30 it reads,
God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so."

This describes animals having hayyah (life). However, in the Hebrew it also has the word nephesh in combination with hayyah, which is the exact same wording as the description of the soul in the creation of Adam in Genesis 2:7. In other words, though nephesh is only translated as “life” here, the Hebrew speaks of the soul. Animals thus have a nephesh hayyah just like Adam.
 

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Thank you for commenting @FredVB. I need to get back into word studies.
 

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I think I notice a confusion between soul and spirit here. The soul is the human breath, or pulse at best. The breath being associated with the voice was confused with the brain in Ancient Greek medicine, and to reincarnate.
 

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I don’t believe personally that there is anything wrong with the original post. Life is not perfect, and there is such a good reason for us to feed the soul which all people are given with the things of God. It’s because all things pertaining to Him are of love.

When I go back into the Old Testament, I also understand at least to an extent of God and his wrath, and why he took out certain people. God is the life giver and the life taker. He gives life and he takes life.

“The LORD gives both death and life; he brings some down to the grave but raises others up.”
‭‭1 Samuel‬ ‭2‬:‭6‬ ‭NLT‬‬

There are many people who read the old testament and don’t really care to understand why God did this or did that, but all the way up till Jesus had got the bride Israel was under blessings and cursings.

1 Samuel 3 is interesting when it comes to Samuel and his dream from God concerning the family which he was under and God tells Samuel he is gonna take them out. And the priest at the time when heard this news his response was “so be it.”

There are also many people that believe the soul eventually dies but I think our soul can have loss, die by the means of what God would rather intend.

I think every soul will rise up again. But the soul can die to being what God intends which is to live for him and his will rather than the will and ways we may go.

Between the flesh and the spirit which battle between each other.
 

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1 John 4:8 But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

Love is important, just as much as allowing people to have freedom in whatever they want to do. There is no way to force anyone to do anything, Yahavah/God, doesn't force anyone to do anything. They make a choice to serve him, or they make a choice not to serve him.

Some people suggest people do not have a choice at all, but people have there freedoms.
 

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Mentions the LORD's soul in a few of these verses too

Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul (nephesh) hateth.

And here is the LORD's soul and spirit mentioned here

Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul (nephesh) delighteth; I have put my spirit (ruwach) upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

And the LORD making the soul of Jesus an offering

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul (nephesh) an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Then the same verse compared between OT and NT

OT Hebrew

Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect,
in whom my soul (nephesh) delighteth; I have put my spirit (ruwach ) upon him:
he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

NT Greek

Mat 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen;
my beloved, in whom my soul (psyche) is well pleased: I will put my spirit (pneuma) upon him,
and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.

There are more verses, heres a few more in the OT

The LORD's soul (nephesh)

Judges 10:16 And they put away the strange gods from among them, and served the LORD: and his soul (nephesh) was grieved for the misery of Israel.

Jerm 5:9 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: and shall not my soul (nephesh) be avenged on such a nation as this
 

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Hmmm… are we born with spirit, soul and body?
 

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What I am must be more than my body. But what is it? How do we define what more there is besides with a word we use for it? What would someone be like if they could be physically alive and moving, without any soul?