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In Hebrew, God's name is written as YHWH. Because ancient Hebrew did not include written vowels, the original pronunciation is unclear. However, there are Greek records that do include vowels, suggesting that the name was probably pronounced as "Yahweh."

Around the beginning of the first century A.D., many Jews started to refrain from pronouncing the divine name due to concerns about misusing it and violating the second commandment, which states, “You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain” (Deut. 5:11). When reading Scripture aloud, they would replace the divine name with the Hebrew term “Adonai,” meaning “Lord” or “my Lord.”

Over time, Hebrew introduced written vowels, represented by small symbols known as vowel points, which were positioned above and below the consonants in a word. In the sixth or seventh century, some Jewish scholars started adding these vowel points for "Adonai" above the consonants of "Yahweh" to prompt readers to pronounce "Adonai" instead of "Yahweh" when reading Scripture.

Around the 13th century, the name "Jehovah" emerged when Christian scholars combined the consonants of "Yahweh" with the vowels of "Adonai." This led to the pronunciation "Yahowah," which was later Latinized to "Jehovah." The earliest known use of this spelling was by a Spanish Dominican monk named Raymundus Martini in 1270.

Notably, this acknowledgment appears in many publications by Jehovah’s Witnesses, including their Aid to Bible Understanding (p. 885) and Insight in the Scriptures (Volume 2, pp 7-8).

By combining the vowel signs of ʼAdho·nayʹ and ʼElo·himʹ with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho·wahʹ and Yeho·wihʹ were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form “Jehova(h).” The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. … Hebrew scholars generally favor “Yahweh” as the most likely pronunciation. – Aid to Bible Understanding

Interestingly, Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican order, first rendered the divine name as “Jehova.” This form appeared in his book Pugeo Fidei, published in 1270 C.E.—over 700 years ago.​
In time, as reform movements developed both inside and outside the Catholic Church, the Bible was made available to the people in general, and the name “Jehovah” became more widely known. – Watchtower, February 1, 1980, p. 11​

This is unexpected since Jehovah’s Witnesses strongly oppose the Catholic Church and have worked hard to remove any influence of Catholicism from their beliefs. Ironically, the name of their group includes a term that originated in Catholicism: "Jehovah."

Jehovah’s Witnesses criticize traditional Christianity for concealing God's name by substituting "Jehovah" with "the Lord" in the Bible. They claim this practice is a Jewish "superstition" that disrespects God, although it does not. Ironically, their own organization has a name that originated from the same mindset that led to the use of "the Lord."
 
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Do you do anything but criticize Jehovah’s Witnesses? Have you got nothing better to do?

Who has ever heard of your faith? Who even knows what you believe?

As Jesus said that the “good news of the Kingdom” had to “be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations” before the foretold “end” would come….(Matt 24:14; Matt 10:11-14)
Do you honestly believe that your group have fulfilled that prophesy of Jesus? Have you carried out his last command? (Matt 28:19-20)

Are you hated and persecuted in all the world for doing what Christ commanded? (John 15:18-21)
If not, then perhaps it’s time to clean up your own backyard before you throw your rubbish in ours….?

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Do you do anything but criticize Jehovah’s Witnesses? Have you got nothing better to do?

What a great question! "Do you do anything but criticize ______________________? Have you got nothing better to do?"

Fill in the blank:
  1. Jehovah's Witnesses
  2. Catholics
  3. Mormons
  4. Seventh-Day Adventists
  5. Baptists
  6. Methodists
  7. Pentecostals
  8. Calvinists
  9. Jews
  10. Muslims
I suppose if you're looking at this as a marketplace competition among various belief-systems, tearing down the competition is a valid marketing strategy.
 
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I suppose if you're looking at this as a marketplace competition among various belief-systems, tearing down the competition is a valid marketing strategy.
It’s what Jesus did…except he didn’t have as many competitors as we do….
Truth will triumph in the end, but who will believe it?

All marketing principles are based on Christianity….or did you not realize that?
You sell your own product on the basis that the other fellow’s product is bad for you…and can even be fatal!
He who tells the most convincing lies…wins the market share!

Isn’t this what made us believe that butter was bad for our health, but margarine was better? Now we know that seed oils are making us all sick as our diet is full of it! These cheap oils are in everything.

Isn’t this what makes people line up to vaccinate themselves and their children in the belief that all that chemical poison, loaded with heavy metals will somehow boost their immune systems, and then wonder why there are so many autistic kids in the world? Or why so many are asthmatics or have so many allergies…..even to natural foods like peanuts, eggs or strawberries? So many auto immune disorders are now very common…where do we think they come from? Does this global ill health just come out of thin air?..or is it orchestrated?

Our bodies do not know how to digest the multitude of GMO‘d products, and yet they make up the bulk of our western diet. Everything that sustains life on this planet has been polluted. Who’s world are we living in? (1 John 5:19)

Jesus told us that his enemy would sow a counterfeit version of “Christianity” and sell it as the real thing, painting the truth as lies and vice versa. Are we awake to his tactics…because they never change? He has a way of selling his lies that makes people so convinced that they would take part in a virtual lynch mob to uphold the lies and silence their opposers.

There is nothing new in the way lies are sold as truth….go back to Eden….and there it is. The devil’s tactics still work so well for him, he has never needed to change them. His propaganda machine is never silent.

How do you best confuse the human race? Give them too many choices. Free will then becomes a curse instead of the blessing it was meant to be under God’s direction.
 
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Ironically, their own organization has a name that originated from the same mindset that led to the use of "the Lord."
"Ironically" is right! Considering that the name they use for God was actually invented to conceal His actual Name.

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What a great question! Do you do anything but criticize ______________________? Have you got nothing better to do?

Fill in the blank:
  1. Jehovah's Witnesses
  2. Catholics
  3. Mormons
  4. Seventh-Day Adventists
  5. Baptists
  6. Methodists
  7. Pentecostals
  8. Calvinists
  9. Jews
  10. Muslims
I suppose if you're looking at this as a marketplace competition among various belief-systems, tearing down the competition is a valid marketing strategy.
It's easier than going up against history, I suppose!

Much love!
 
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Do you do anything but criticize Jehovah’s Witnesses? Have you got nothing better to do?
Excuse me? All one has to do is look at your postings and see all you do is criticize anyone who isn't a Jehovah's Witness. So before you point the finger at me, perhaps you should look in the mirror.
Who has ever heard of your faith? Who even knows what you believe?
I'm a consecrated Christian, my heavenly Father knows who I am, and my elder brother Jesus who called me, knows who I am. My brethren know who I am and what I believe. You're organization knows who we are.
As Jesus said that the “good news of the Kingdom” had to “be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations” before the foretold “end” would come….(Matt 24:14; Matt 10:11-14)
You and your brethren keep using these talking points, so let me ask again ... what "Good News" are you sharing now? Since it changes yearly. Someday you may make a 180 degree turn and return to us.
Do you honestly believe that your group have fulfilled that prophesy of Jesus? Have you carried out his last command? (Matt 28:19-20)
Well, considering that we have members all over the world, I'd say we have.
Are you hated and persecuted in all the world for doing what Christ commanded? (John 15:18-21)
If not, then perhaps it’s time to clean up your own backyard before you throw your rubbish in ours….?
If you mean people chasing us with torches and pitchforks? Then no, at least not in the United States. But persecution comes in various forms, it's not always physical. But in other parts of the world? Yes, some of my brethren have been imprisoned just for owning a Bible, or literature. I knew a brother who spent 15 years in a Russian prison, for preaching, when he got out, he picked up where he left off and was arrested again.

BTW ... I love how you change the subject, typical. Can we get back to the subject at hand?
 

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It’s what Jesus did…except he didn’t have as many competitors as we do….
Truth will triumph in the end, but who will believe it?
What truth? The truth you taught in 1919 when the great Jehovah chose you as His mouthpiece on earth? Which by the way, you discarded. Or the truth in 1925? Or maybe the truth you taught in 1935 when your leaders say the door to heaven was closed and introduced an earthly class, a door that they opened and closed at their whim when they need new governing body members. A year which they admitted was not scriptural, and so what do you do with a group of people that was created based on an error? Who will believe it, you ask? Not me, that's for sure!
 
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Do you do anything but criticize Jehovah’s Witnesses? Have you got nothing better to do?
Well, since JW's here have clearly stated the the Bible, Jesus' and CYB's doctrines are Satanic, what's better?
 

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Yahweh or Jehovah?​

Yahwehvah? I knew the wafers, I mean wehvah's fitted somewhere! :ummm:
 

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Let's look at some references:

"The pronunciation ‘Jehovah’ is an error resulting among Christians from combining the consonants YHWH with the vowels of ‘adonai’, ‘Lord’, which the Jews, in reading the Scriptures, substituted for the sacred name (YHWH), commonly called ‘the tetragrammaton’ as containing four consonants. It is first found in manuscripts of Martini’s Pugio, belonging to the 14th century.” - Britannica Encyclopedia, Volume 12​


Thus the name ‘Jehovah’ could not have been the true name Almighty God revealed to Moses almost 4,000 years ago. Because this name was invented by men over 700 years ago! Let’s look at another authority on the name “Jehovah”.

"Jehovah (properly ‘Yahweh’), a name of the God of Israel. now widely regarded as a mispronunciation of the Hebrew YHWH. The form ‘Jehovah’ appears to have been introduced as late as the 16th century by Christian theologians. By the Jews the actual pronunciation of the name of God was from time immemorial avoided, and was uttered in ancient times only during the temple service, principally on the Day of Atonement. In the reading of the true Name in Hebrew, the vowels of the word Adonai (Lord) are attached to the letters YHWH.” - The New American Encyclopedia’:


These sources and others clearly demonstrate that the name 'Jehovah' is not the name of Almighty God and that it was created by theologians only a few centuries back. So, what is the actual name that God disclosed to Moses? The evidence indicates that the true name of Almighty God, prior to any alterations made by theologians, is represented by the four consonants 'YHWH', which are referred to as the “tetragrammaton”.

Mark the following quotations on the word ‘tetragrammation’:
“The four consonants forming the Hebrew ‘incommunicable name’ of the Supreme Being. The four consonants are YHWH.” - Webster Collegiate Dictionary

“The letters YHWH used in the original Hebrew Bible to represent the name of God." - The New Concise Encyclopedia


Around the beginning of the first century A.D., many Jews started to refrain from pronouncing the divine name due to concerns about misusing it and violating the second commandment, which states, “You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain” (Deut. 5:11). When reading Scripture aloud, they would replace the divine name with the Hebrew term “Adonai,” meaning “Lord” or “my Lord.”

Over time, Hebrew introduced written vowels, represented by small symbols known as vowel points, which were positioned above and below the consonants in a word. In the sixth or seventh century, some Jewish scholars started adding these vowel points for "Adonai" above the consonants of "Yahweh" to prompt readers to pronounce "Adonai" instead of "Yahweh" when reading Scripture.

Around the 13th century, the name "Jehovah" emerged when Christian scholars combined the consonants of "Yahweh" with the vowels of "Adonai." This led to the pronunciation "Yahowah," which was later Latinized to "Jehovah." The earliest known use of this spelling was by a Spanish Dominican monk named Raymundus Martini in 1270.
 
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In Hebrew, God's name is written as YHWH. Because ancient Hebrew did not include written vowels, the original pronunciation is unclear. However, there are Greek records that do include vowels, suggesting that the name was probably pronounced as "Yahweh."

Around the beginning of the first century A.D., many Jews started to refrain from pronouncing the divine name due to concerns about misusing it and violating the second commandment, which states, “You shall not take the name of the Lord, your God, in vain” (Deut. 5:11). When reading Scripture aloud, they would replace the divine name with the Hebrew term “Adonai,” meaning “Lord” or “my Lord.”

Over time, Hebrew introduced written vowels, represented by small symbols known as vowel points, which were positioned above and below the consonants in a word. In the sixth or seventh century, some Jewish scholars started adding these vowel points for "Adonai" above the consonants of "Yahweh" to prompt readers to pronounce "Adonai" instead of "Yahweh" when reading Scripture.

Around the 13th century, the name "Jehovah" emerged when Christian scholars combined the consonants of "Yahweh" with the vowels of "Adonai." This led to the pronunciation "Yahowah," which was later Latinized to "Jehovah." The earliest known use of this spelling was by a Spanish Dominican monk named Raymundus Martini in 1270.

Notably, this acknowledgment appears in many publications by Jehovah’s Witnesses, including their Aid to Bible Understanding (p. 885) and Insight in the Scriptures (Volume 2, pp 7-8).

By combining the vowel signs of ʼAdho·nayʹ and ʼElo·himʹ with the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton the pronunciations Yeho·wahʹ and Yeho·wihʹ were formed. The first of these provided the basis for the Latinized form “Jehova(h).” The first recorded use of this form dates from the thirteenth century C.E. Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican Order, used it in his book Pugeo Fidei of the year 1270. … Hebrew scholars generally favor “Yahweh” as the most likely pronunciation. – Aid to Bible Understanding

Interestingly, Raymundus Martini, a Spanish monk of the Dominican order, first rendered the divine name as “Jehova.” This form appeared in his book Pugeo Fidei, published in 1270 C.E.—over 700 years ago.​
In time, as reform movements developed both inside and outside the Catholic Church, the Bible was made available to the people in general, and the name “Jehovah” became more widely known. – Watchtower, February 1, 1980, p. 11​

This is unexpected since Jehovah’s Witnesses strongly oppose the Catholic Church and have worked hard to remove any influence of Catholicism from their beliefs. Ironically, the name of their group includes a term that originated in Catholicism: "Jehovah."

Jehovah’s Witnesses criticize traditional Christianity for concealing God's name by substituting "Jehovah" with "the Lord" in the Bible. They claim this practice is a Jewish "superstition" that disrespects God, although it does not. Ironically, their own organization has a name that originated from the same mindset that led to the use of "the Lord."
Jesus is the name above all names - End of Story
 

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Same name, different language. Like Peter, which is Pierre in French, Piotr in Polish and Petros in Greek.
I was going to post a picture of Pedro, the stereotypical Mexican bandito that used to be the mascot of the South of the Border entertainment complex in Dillon, SC (anybody who's driven I-95 in the southeastern US knows what I'm talking about), but good sense prevailed.
 
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