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Who said that we are to read/interpret the book of Rev. chronologically???
Who said Rev 21 is the Millennium??? (it isn't)
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Who said that we are to read/interpret the book of Rev. chronologically???
Interesting! So, you won't be here for the "MoB"?WW3 will be vicious, not like other wars because Christians were in those wars and had God's protection. There will be no Christians, because we will not be here. I've seen visions of the destruction of cities and one time The Holy Spirit told me, " there will be no place on earth that will not be bombed"
The foreknowledge of God:
KJV Rev. 9:13-21.
The Global Agenda since 1871:
Albert Pike Letter to Mazzini - The Illuminati Plan for World War 3 August 15, 1871
www.bibliotecapleyades.net
Actually there is no literal future "millennium" of a thousand years to come.Who said Rev 21 is the Millennium??? (it isn't)
I had the vision and dreams of destruction and it will not be nice, like I said. His chosen people are not appointed to wrath. Romans 5:9Interesting! So, you won't be here for the "MoB"?
This recent war between Israel and Hamas etc. is WW3, and is not to be confused with Armageddon.
By the foreknowledge of God, WW3 is fully described in Rev. 9:13-21, of which is a precursor for the "MoB", to be mandated on a global scale to ALL people.
The war will be orchestrated to cause global chaos and the death of 1/3 of people in the Euphrates region.
The goal of WW3, is an attempt by the "global elite" ("the great men of the earth") to persuade the world to accept their plan of "peace and safety" through the UN (the image).
The global pandemic, with the "scorpion sting" for COVID-19 (Rev. 9:1-12), was a "test run" for how to reach and convince the world to accept their mandates, which was at the time, under the UN's World Health Organization.
There is a difference between satan's wrath and God's wrath.I had the vision and dreams of destruction and it will not be nice, like I said. His chosen people are not appointed to wrath. Romans 5:9
Actually there is no literal future "millennium" of a thousand years to come.
However, through Jesus sacrifice for our salvation there is a vast amount of undesclosed time of God's Grace and His "longsuffering", which is likened to be "a thousand years.*
All of that began on the day of Pentecost.
2 Peter 3[9] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
* Note: Even Jesus had no idea of when God's Age of Grace will end. Therefore, "a thousand years" is to be understood figuratively.
Matt.25[19] After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.
Luke.20[9] Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time.
I had the vision and dreams of destruction and it will not be nice, like I said. His chosen people are not appointed to wrath. Romans 5:9
From my post #64:That is never likened to a thousand years, and certainly is not the subject or context of Rev 20 where dead Christians who were killed standing against the AC are resurrected to rule the nations with Christ for a thousand years.
Then, it must needs be that you should re-address your perspective about Rev. 20:1-3, and reconsider that satan was "bound" in the Day of Jesus' death and resurrection.Pentecost is when the church grew in a substantial way. It has nothing to do with the context of Rev 20.
Many have not made the connection that Armageddon and the event of Gog and Magog are the SAME event, just being said differently, which is 2Thes.1:7-10, a simultaneous event in the midst of that which is "of great tribulation". Rev.7[14].Take a good look at Israel, as that is WW3, going to happen.
It will be Russia, Iran, China... against that little tiny speck of dirt, named Israel, who were actually given all that land, around them, long ago.
See, When the "end times" prophecy says that its "all about Israel", its not a myth.
And we we read about "gog and magog", (russia, Iran, China).... basically is the same, as its the spirit in them that is driving them to try to harm Israel.
Its the devil, pulling the strings behind the curtain, reader..
This is why you hear about "taliban" and 'hezbollah" and "Hamas" and "Islam..... as this is all just "puppets", being controlled by the "god of this world".
He is the issue, as they are just the "outreach".
Satan is the problem, and they are just his MEANS to commit WW3.
Then, it must needs be that you should re-address your perspective about Rev. 20:1-3, and reconsider that satan was "bound" in the Day of Jesus' death and resurrection.
Mark.3[27] No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
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In other words, Satan was bound BEFORE the church grew, which is why it grew substantially on Pentecost.
For the very first time, through repentance towards God, and through faith in Jesus, people were receiving God's Holy Spirit freely AND permanently, which was NEVER the case for those who were elected by God, while under the OC.
Many have not made the connection that Armageddon and the event of Gog and Magog are the SAME event,
Many have not made the connection that Armageddon and the event of Gog and Magog are the SAME event, just being said differently, which is 2Thes.1:7-10, a simultaneous event in the midst of that which is "of great tribulation". Rev.7[14].
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Both describe the Day of the Lord's return from Heaven, in all His fiery Glory, with the details revealed in 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
If you will, please take the time and read the following, which is my shortened understanding. I would have much more to share, but for time and space, I am limited.Rev 20 places the binding and imprisonment (that part ignored by Amill) after the resurrection of the saved dead (who died in the trib which hasn't happened yet) so that timeframe being the second coming, the only time that resurrection takes place.
That isn't contextually related to what happens to satan in Rev 20. It is related to casting out demons and freeing living people from possession. Ignore context as Amill does, and then you can apply it to anything you want as you have done.
If you will, please take the time and read the following, which is my shortened understanding. I would have much more to share, but for time and space, I am limited.
Thanks in advance.:)
I once was steeped heavily in the Premil doctrine, hook line and sinker.
Because of a gross error in teaching by "church-ianity", many Christians assume and believe that the nameless angel in Rev. 20:1 is Michael the archangel.
Q. How many literal archangels are there?
A. NONE! The name "Michael" is a code name for Jesus, who was being kept secret since the beginning of the world.
Rom. 16
Rev.20[1] And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Q. Is satan bound by a literal chain?
A. No! He is bound "in chains of darkness". 2 Peter 2:4, never to have again, the Light and Truth of God, or His Presence.
Q. Is the "bottomless pit" a literal hole in the ground, an underworld, or that of an off world, in only the "air", or on another planet?
A. Of a truth, a literal hole in the ground (hell), is a fact for our dead earthly bodies. As for Satan, he is not in a literal grave or underworld. He is now imprisoned in the last place of his existence, aka being "on death row", on the very surface of earth ('walking up and down in it), staying hidden behind and among the worldly kingdoms of men.
"The bottomless pit" means the place of satan's endless grave/death, which is....this earth.
[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Q. If this nameless, powerful angel, is able to capture satan and then "bind" him, why is he "nameless"? Surely the name Michael comes to mind. But, is it really Michael, a supposed archangel? Or could it be Jesus Himself?
A. No other angel of God's creation is above satan, and therefore, they are not able to conquer or capture him. Only Jesus is able to capture and defeat him, and has already done so, by permanently placing him on "death row," being this earth.
The "fallen angels" know who Jesus is, thereby already expecting torment to come to them by His hand, NOT by another insignificant angel, who is of no name or consequence.
Q. When is the figurative 1000 years.
A. It is NOW,
See Israels PM got rid of that trouble maker Zelensky.It's coming.
Has anyone noticed that Putin has not been in support of Israel, and has not made statements regarding : "Hamas are animals". ...
He can't, as He is in bed with Iran and China, and so that makes him a part of the support group that is currently trying to destroy Israel from 3 sides.
Its Russian and Chinese Missiles that are sitting in Lebanon and Syria right now, and these are bad boys.. As a lot are medium range, and others are Cruise Missiles.
A USA Destroyer shot down 3 of those yesterday that were coming in.. perhaps toward Tel Aviv, or perhaps toward the FLEET, and 2 Attack "Drones" that came in from Yemen, were also shot down by the same USA Destroyer.
I know that Putin called all the Middle east leaders a few days ago, including Netanyahu.. .and this conversation was not disclosed.
Im wondering what he told Iran and the rest ??
Maybe = "Now is the time"... "fire away"..
What i hope is that the USA Gov, gets their "Speaker of the House" together, as without Him, their legislation process is stalled, and right now, Israel needs the American Congress to be up and running, vs, the infighting regarding who gets to be the next "Speaker".
Very strange timing, indeed.
On the positive side, i noticed that Israel is now on the "list" for ESTA, which is a US Visa entrance program that will allow qualified Jews to come to the USA for up to 90 days, and almost all who would want to leave, will be authorized...so that is good, as there is still one Airline that is taking Jews from Israel to the USA.
And of course the Israeli's will have to go through the entrance process, as anyone should who enters the USA.
You are NOT hearing the Victory message that Jesus achieved by His death and resurrection!! When people put their faith and trust in Jesus, Satan and eternal death are defeated immediately for everyone, who repents to God through faith in Jesus!!And now you are in Amill which has taken you fur5ther from the truth. Obviously you were not properly rooted in Premill.
This is a cultish belief. Jesus' name is not also Micheal.
Strawman fallacy. No one beliefs the chain is a literal iron/metal chain. T
Which denies the passage's description of the pit being a place in the Earth not the Earth itself where everyone lives. Amill simply removes the concept of imprisonment inside something that is locked that is located within the Earth. Changing the text is the first thing a false doctrine does.
This is made up nonsense. An angel does bind and imprison satan.
No, it is not now. satan is not imprisoned and still deceives the nations which isn't possible in the real Millennium. The rod of iron rule makes wars that happen today impossible. Your Millennium is a failure. It's a disaster of sin and sinful rule over the whole globe led by an unbound satan.
He has been, and still is, setting satan's captives free (thus dividing his spoils Luke 11:22), and has sentenced and cast out Satan to the bottom-less (endless) pit (grave), which is the surface of the earth
Jesus most surely DID come down from heaven to the "pit", which is this earth. The entirety of it will become "the lake of fire", the eternal grave of all the wicked unsaved, along with satan and his fallen horde of evil angels.It is not the surface of the Earth. We are not in the pit. Jesus was not born in the pit. The Holy Spirit is not in the pit.
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand