Work out your own Salvation?

[Ritajanice]

The entrance of the word gives light sister

The entrance to Gods light can only happen when we are Born Again ,only then are we in the Kingdom Of God..we’re in his Living spiritual realm on this earth.

In the world...not of the world..I hope you know this.

The Living witness is who brings all scripture to our understanding ..without the Spirit you my dear and myself plus everyone else are NOTHING and know NOTHING.without him!

 

[IronMaiden]

I pray that you know the true love of God in your spirit.​

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1 Corinthians 2:14​

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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Here’s the true love of God:

John 3:16-21 (NKJV) 16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 “And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 “For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 “But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

 

[GodsGrace]

I pray that you know the true love of God in your spirit.​

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1 Corinthians 2:14​

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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

For someone that does not believe in a God of love....
that sure is a lot to say.

To say nothing of the fact that, once again, you've posted a verse that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING being discussed.

As usual.

 

[GodsGrace]

Here’s the true love of God:

John 3:16-21 (NKJV) 16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 “And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 “For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 “But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Calvinists don't believe in John 3:16.
Or any other scripture that does not agree with their belief system.

 

[Ritajanice]

For someone that does not believe in a God of love....
that sure is a lot to say.

The emotional God of Love that you believe in.is not the Living God ..

To say nothing of the fact that, once again, you've posted a verse that has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING being discussed.

It has everything to do with the nonsense that you post..

As usual.

 

[GodsGrace]

The emotional God of Love that you believe in.is not the Living God ..


It has everything to do with the nonsense that you post..

No further comment.
Your posts speak for themselves.

 

[Ritajanice]

Calvinists don't believe in John 3:16.
Or any other scripture that does not agree with their belief system.

The whole world will never be Born Again ,not saved..we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.unfortunately

1 Corinthians 2:14

King James Version

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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[Ritajanice]

No further comment.
Your posts speak for themselves.

As do yours...look at your own accusing/lying posts

I stand on God’s word and will continue to do so.i am no longer led by my emotions..Praise God!

 

[Ritajanice]

Here’s the true love of God:

John 3:16-21 (NKJV) 16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 “For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 “And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 “For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 “But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

Not all will be Born Again, therefore not all will be saved.
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You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...not by posting reams and reams of scripture.

1 Corinthians 2:14​

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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[GodsGrace]

The sin is assuming you are God's mouthpiece and judge over others. You completely misunderstand the words of the bible. If you understood the bible you would tremble at your lack of actual connection and understanding.

You need to see yourself in your own accusations. Hypocrisy blinds you to the truth.

Epi....your thread is out of control.
You might not care.

I have two comments:

We all think we have it right and the others are wrong.
This is why eisegesis is bad.

You say another member is blinded to the truth.
I haven't been around here in a long time and forget what your belief system is....
so simply (LOL)
WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

 

[IronMaiden]

Not all will be Born Again, therefore not all will be saved.
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You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...not by posting reams and reams of scripture.

1 Corinthians 2:14​

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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Are you born again, Rita?

 

[Ritajanice]

Are you born again, Rita?

Are you born again, Rita?

Define what it means to be Born Again, using your own living testimony , ?..on how you became Born Of The Spirit?

You’re new to this forum, my testimony is all over the forum, it lines up with the written word.

Let’s hear yours?

Stop hiding behind scripture..speak out your living testimony?

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John 3 ►

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King James Bible Par ▾ Jesus and Nicodemus 1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Romans 8​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[IronMaiden]

Define what it means to be Born Again, using your own living testimony , ?..on how you became Born Of The Spirit?

You’re new to this forum, my testimony is all over the forum, it lines up with the written word.

Let’s hear yours?

Stop hiding behind scripture..speak out your living testimony?

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John 3 ►

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King James Bible Par ▾ Jesus and Nicodemus 1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Romans 8​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Do you understand John 3:16?

 

[Ritajanice]

Do you understand John 3:16?

I asked you a question, if you are Born Again,then you must have a living testimony?..let’s all hear it.

Scripture confirms how we are Born Again after the Living rebirth?

Do you actually understand what has been reborn in you @LatterRain ?

This scripture that you speak of does not confirm how we are Born Again..we need a living testimony that line up with scripture...as I posted above?
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

To believe in God, in one’s spirit, one must be Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed ?

Whose seed are we Born Again of?

What in us is Born Again?

Apart from having eternal life ..why else do we need to be Born Again?

 

[GodsGrace]

I asked you a question, if you are Born Again,then you must have a living testimony?..let’s all hear it.

Scripture confirms how we are Born Again after the Living rebirth?

Do you actually understand what has been reborn in you @LatterRain ?

This scripture that you speak of does not confirm how we are Born Again..we need a living testimony that line up with scripture...as I posted above?
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For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

To believe in God, in one’s spirit, one must be Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed ?

Whose seed are we Born Again of?

What in us is Born Again?

@LatterRain is not required to reply to your very personal questions.

You seem to think that you're the only person on this entire forum that is saved and/or understands what salvation is.
Let me assure you RJ....you're NOT.

I also would like to know your understanding of John 3:16 since your reply before was that not everyone will be saved.
This shows a complete lack of understanding of not only John 3:16 BUT OF ALL THE NT.

But then.....those that believe as you do have a difficult time with all of scripture, so....
To say nothing of the fact that you do NOT trust scripture....

But I think we should get back to topic.

 

[GodsGrace]

I asked you a question, if you are Born Again,then you must have a living testimony?..let’s all hear it.

Scripture confirms how we are Born Again after the Living rebirth?

Do you actually understand what has been reborn in you @LatterRain ?

This scripture that you speak of does not confirm how we are Born Again..

John 3:16 explains EXACTLY how we are born again....
This is the reason it's used so extensively.

It's just that YOU and those that believe as you do that do not accept what it explains.

 

[Ritajanice]

John 3:16 explains EXACTLY how we are born again....

It’s because of Jesus death and resurrection that we can become Born Of His seed.he had to die in order that we can become Born Again of imperishable/incorruptible seed..that seed is the Living Holy Spirit, that’s the Living seed that penetrates the heart / spirit, taking up permanent residence in our spirit....a Living Spirit birth.

This is the reason it's used so extensively.

No it doesn’t...that’s what you believe it means, and your word/ nor that scripture that you post lines up with how we are Born Again..we are Born Of God, His seed remains in us....something you have no knowledge of.

It's just that YOU and those that believe as you do that do not accept what it explains.

We don’t believe like you do, we are Born Again just as scripture confirms..by supernatural divine ,heart revelation.= Spirit gives birth to spirit.

 

[Ritajanice]

@LatterRain is not required to reply to your very personal questions.

And neither am I required to answer her very PERSONAL questions..only I did.

You seem to think that you're the only person on this entire forum that is saved

Non factual accusations once again coming out of your assuming / opinionated mouth.whose always trying to preach to me that I’m not Born Again, and the only way to be Born Again is your way.what a darn hypocrite that you are.

that is saved and/or understands what salvation is.
Let me assure you RJ....you're NOT.

Not true..God states exactly how we are Born Again.,not how you try to deceive members on how one is Born Again = supernatural divine heart revelation.

I also would like to know your understanding of John 3:16 since your reply before was that not everyone will be saved.

Show me in Gods word where the whole world will become Born Again!

This shows a complete lack of understanding of not only John 3:16 BUT OF ALL THE NT.

I don’t need to understand anything of the NT as being Born Again is a supernatural one time event.a Living spirit birth ...that only Gods Living witness His Holy Spirit can perform...I am spirit led ...and brought to understanding Gods word in spirit.,,,as the Bible is a book written under the influence of the Spirit, therefore can only be understood in spirit...that is why we must be Born Of The Spirit.

But then.....those that believe as you do have a difficult time with all of scripture, so....
To say nothing of the fact that you do NOT trust scripture....
But I think we should get back to topic.

I think it is you who is having a hard time understanding scripture as it’s written in the Spirit.

That’s where you lack spiritual eyes, ears as you don’t know what they are..as I’ve asked you many times what they mean.

Yes, let’s all get back to topic...

 

[Marvelloustime]

Green tea is nice.

 

[amigo de christo]

Not all will be Born Again, therefore not all will be saved.
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You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...not by posting reams and reams of scripture.

1 Corinthians 2:14​

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14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

What must we do to be saved . What did paul and silas tell that jailer .
To beleive In JESUS the CHRIST .
Not all will BELIEVE JESUS is the CHRIST , and therefore not all will be saved .
AND I already know all about being born again rita .