Work out your own Salvation?

[Ritajanice]

Rita look again at what you wrote .
And what does charity rejoice in ..................................TRUTH rita . TRUTH .
I REJOICE in the Truth of every lovely word of the LORD , OF the GOSPEL .
Somewhere they convinced you all that those who love the truth in the bible SOMEHOW DONT LOVE GOD .
Rather odd rita . SO i suppose those who hate the truth in the bible DO LOVE GOD .
SINCE when did pointing people to the scriptures to learn and to grow become a NON GOD THING .
when did that happen rita . WHY do you really think people do that .
WHY do you think they try and make it look like people like me who wont budge from the truth in scripture
SEEM as though we somehow DONT have the LOVE OF GOD IN US or LOVE GOD .
I will tell you why . Because these leaders know they cannot overcome the true ones who expose them
THESE leaders KNOW if the people they taught ever once started to heed these men who do warn and remind
all to get in and stay in the bible for themselves , THEM WOLVES WOULD BE OUTTA BUSINESS RITA .
THEY WOULD LOSE their flocks . THEY IN IT FOR THE MONEY baby for the power and control .
WELL i , by grace shall expose their tatics and every last one of them i possibly can . for the wolves and hirlelings who fleece the flocks
that they are . THAT IS WHY they do as they do rita . THEY KNOW if one loves to read the bible
and is encouraged to do so for THEMSELVES , THEN THESE WOLVES ARE GONNA BE EXPOSED .

Someone , not sure who, has convinced “ you” that the BIBLE is GOD.

You never Praise the Living God, you never speak of Gods Living witness, who witnesses the Love Of God to our spirit when “ Spirit gives birth to spirit”...the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children?

He’s a Living Spirit who testifies with our spirit, the truth of Jesus?...we grow in maturity once our spirit is permanently Born Again, as he has taken up permanent residence in our spirit, his seed remains in us?

He leads us through scripture by witnessing /speaking scripture to our heart/spirit, bringing the scripture that HE witnesses to our heart/ spirit to our understanding ,we wait on HIM to do this as that’s how we grow in spiritual knowledge and maturity, our spirit , because we are in the new man, the new man is in Jesus, we are clothed in the righteousness of Christ, we are being made into Jesus image,..because the Holy Spirit is Alive And Active in our heart/ spirit.

We testify of the Living God and that his Spirit is very much Alive, because the Holy Spirit testifies Of that truth to our heart all day every day, therefore he speaks it /testifies Of it out of our mouth.

THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THE SIRIT OF GOD IS VERY MUCH ALIVE IN SPIRIT....the Spirit testifies all about the Living God through me..Gods Living word that the Spirit testifies with my spirit is all over the forum, he is the witness, I’m the obedient child.

GOD IS ALIVE IN SPIRIT
GOD IS NOT THE BIBLE.....and you won’t find him in a Bible, because he is A Living Spirit and is everywhere.

He speaks to his children via his Living witness who is the Living witness of God, the Holy Spirit, what he hears God say, he then witnesses what he said to our spirit......he is our helper/teacher, as the Living God could never indwell my spirit as he is, it would kill us.

Do you actually know how powerful God is?

Then you best look all around you as he sustains the whole world, by HIS MIGHTY POWER!..

Why did Jesus have to die and be resurrected , only for the forgiveness of our sins, or is there much more to Jesus death and resurrection than that?

Ask God to open YOUR SPIRITUAL EARS!..so that you can hear .what is being preached here.

For imo , a lot of what the Spirit preaches through me, you seem to either, never agree, evade , or just pass by ....I ask you again...who is Gods witness, does he witness to our heart/spirit that God is a Living Spirit.
does his Living seed remain in our spirit / heart, where it will grow into Jesus image?......
If you don’t believe that..then please tell me how you know that God is who he says he is?

Reading the Bible or the Bible can NOT bring our spirit Alive?...that is a supernatural act of God, which comes by divine heart/ spirit revelation.just as His written word confirms.

 

[Ritajanice]

Time to expose them all . JESUS said FEED MY SHEEP
NOT FEED YASELVES OFF THE SHEEP .

what in us needs feeding...?

 

[Ritajanice]

Why do you think the leaders of churches sold this idea
about those who love the bible as being in love with a book and not GOD .

What about those who evade questions when asked.

Why aren’t you in Love with the Spirit Of God?

You should be in Love with the Living Spirit Of God...are you?

 

[Ritajanice]

And what does charity rejoice in ..................................TRUTH rita . TRUTH .
I REJOICE in the Truth of every lovely word of the LORD , OF the GOSPEL

I rejoice in the knowledge of knowing God in my heart/ spirit, as that is where the Living Holy Spirit resides.

The Gospel was the good news that Jesus preached, the Gospel news does not Birth our spirit, it’s because of the Good news, that our spirit can permanently be Born Of The Spirit?

The Good news that Jesus preached, he travelled around preaching it, it can’t be contained in the Bible....

 

[Ritajanice]

Matthew 7​

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King James Version​

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7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10 Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?
12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

 

[Lizbeth]

Why do you think the leaders of churches sold this idea
about those who love the bible as being in love with a book and not GOD .
Think and ponder on that .
WHY .
Because these wolves in wool KNOW darn well that if people are actually encouraged to get in that bible
to be reading it daily for themselves , THEY OUTTA BUSINESS SISTER . THEY KNOW this .
THEY have always desired the control of the people .
ITS why they make the ones like us who remind all to get into the bible , seem as though somehow
we are comitting idolarty , that we DO not LOVE GOD .
Because a well learned lamb who is in its bible , WONT BE JOINING THAT CHURCH
and that means just a wee bit less in the offering pot sister .
THESE charlatons , these wolves in wool , these hirelings who preach for gain DO NOT LOVE THE SHEEP
they love the worship of men , the money , the easiest road , how to gain more numbers , For mo money .
THEY do not want the people to learn for themselves . cause as i said afore
IF PEOPLE DID THIS for themselves , THESE HIRELINGS WOULD LOSE the control of the people
and that means MONEY sister .

Amen brother......the devil is trying hard to stamp out the truth....truth is thrown to the ground - using the lure of money, ambition, validation etc. That is the flesh hungry and hunting as a wolf and needs to be crucified in all of us. We sure do need to know the scriptures and it can take a long time to know it well and have a good grasp of it tucked away in our hearts.....by the spirit and not just the carnal mind. We are "buying" the truth and paying a price for it, and that is done over time as we follow the Lord along the narrow path and grow to be weaned from depending on and being taught of men, to relying on and being taught of the Lord. Those who are "younger" in their walk are most vulnerable to wolves and winds of false doctrines as scripture indicates....a sad fact of life, so we need to be praying for the young ones in the faith, for grace for them especially in this time of the end that is fast approaching. And I perceive that is also what it means where it mentions Rachel weeping for her "children" because they are no more. (Though I think the Lord counts a difference between being young in the faith and those who are disobedient and refusing to count the cost to follow the Lord, and thus remain suckling on milk and don't grow for those types of reasons.) I cringe in trepidation for anyone coming to the Lord nowadays, because there is such a dearth of sound teaching and so much that is false. Where can they go that is safe and relatively pure? But then again Jesus did say he was sending us out as sheep among wolves and I believe this is all part of our testing and proving of our faith ultimately.

 

[Ritajanice]

That is the flesh hungry and hunting as a wolf and needs to be crucified in all of us

Galatians 2:20​

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King James Version​

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20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

 

[Lizbeth]

Time to expose them all . JESUS said FEED MY SHEEP
NOT FEED YASELVES OFF THE SHEEP .

Amen! Preach it brother! That is the exactly what the Lord addresses about the false shepherds in Ezekiel, amen. And the Lord says somewhere that he will rescue the sheep out of the captivity and mouths of the wolves/false shepherds (out from under their spell and thrall). Babylon is falling! Doesn't it seem He is exposing so many of these false ministries in these days?

 

[amigo de christo]

Someone , not sure who, has convinced “ you” that the BIBLE is GOD.

You never Praise the Living God, you never speak of Gods Living witness, who witnesses the Love Of God to our spirit when “ Spirit gives birth to spirit”...the Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are Gods children?

He’s a Living Spirit who testifies with our spirit, the truth of Jesus?...we grow in maturity once our spirit is permanently Born Again, as he has taken up permanent residence in our spirit, his seed remains in us?

He leads us through scripture by witnessing /speaking scripture to our heart/spirit, bringing the scripture that HE witnesses to our heart/ spirit to our understanding ,we wait on HIM to do this as that’s how we grow in spiritual knowledge and maturity, our spirit , because we are in the new man, the new man is in Jesus, we are clothed in the righteousness of Christ, we are being made into Jesus image,..because the Holy Spirit is Alive And Active in our heart/ spirit.

We testify of the Living God and that his Spirit is very much Alive, because the Holy Spirit testifies Of that truth to our heart all day every day, therefore he speaks it /testifies Of it out of our mouth.

THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THE SIRIT OF GOD IS VERY MUCH ALIVE IN SPIRIT....the Spirit testifies all about the Living God through me..Gods Living word that the Spirit testifies with my spirit is all over the forum, he is the witness, I’m the obedient child.

GOD IS ALIVE IN SPIRIT
GOD IS NOT THE BIBLE.....and you won’t find him in a Bible, because he is A Living Spirit and is everywhere.

He speaks to his children via his Living witness who is the Living witness of God, the Holy Spirit, what he hears God say, he then witnesses what he said to our spirit......he is our helper/teacher, as the Living God could never indwell my spirit as he is, it would kill us.

Do you actually know how powerful God is?

Then you best look all around you as he sustains the whole world, by HIS MIGHTY POWER!..

Why did Jesus have to die and be resurrected , only for the forgiveness of our sins, or is there much more to Jesus death and resurrection than that?

Ask God to open YOUR SPIRITUAL EARS!..so that you can hear .what is being preached here.

For imo , a lot of what the Spirit preaches through me, you seem to either, never agree, evade , or just pass by ....I ask you again...who is Gods witness, does he witness to our heart/spirit that God is a Living Spirit.
does his Living seed remain in our spirit / heart, where it will grow into Jesus image?......
If you don’t believe that..then please tell me how you know that God is who he says he is?

Reading the Bible or the Bible can NOT bring our spirit Alive?...that is a supernatural act of God, which comes by divine heart/ spirit revelation.just as His written word confirms.

you keep parroting the same stuff .
So lets allow paul who made mention of CHRIST JESUS and the SCRIPTURES make his point .
And lets not accuse paul of what you accuse me of just because i make mention of the dire need to be reading the scriptures .
For all scripture is given by the INSPIRTATION OF GOD and it is profitable FOR DOCTRINE , for correction , for instruction in
righteousness so that the man of GOD can be thoroughly furnished unto all good works .
GUESS PAUL WORSHIPPED a book and NOT GOD . according to you all he did . cause look at what HE himself
said about THE SCRIPTURES sister . Now men who taught that stuff to you all did so for one reason
SO folks would not be made wise TO THEIR DECEPTOINS .

 

[Marvelloustime]

you keep parroting the same stuff .
So lets allow paul who made mention of CHRIST JESUS and the SCRIPTURES make his point .
And lets not accuse paul of what you accuse me of just because i make mention of the dire need to be reading the scriptures .
For all scripture is given by the INSPIRTATION OF GOD and it is profitable FOR DOCTRINE , for correction , for instruction in
righteousness so that the man of GOD can be thoroughly furnished unto all good works .
GUESS PAUL WORSHIPPED a book and NOT GOD . according to you all he did . cause look at what HE himself
said about THE SCRIPTURES sister . Now men who taught that stuff to you all did so for one reason
SO folks would not be made wise TO THEIR DECEPTOINS .

@amigo de christo
@Ritajanice

 

[Ritajanice]

@amigo de christo
@Ritajanice
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We must be Born Of The Spirit, before we can ever come to understand the written word..= Spirit gives birth to spirit, which means what?

 

[amigo de christo]

Oh my next paul will be accused of worshipping the scriptures and NOT GOD . people have no idea
what the heck is going on these days .

 

[Ritajanice]

you keep parroting the same stuff .
So lets allow paul who made mention of CHRIST JESUS and the SCRIPTURES make his point .
And lets not accuse paul of what you accuse me of just because i make mention of the dire need to be reading the scriptures .
For all scripture is given by the INSPIRTATION OF GOD and it is profitable FOR DOCTRINE , for correction , for instruction in
righteousness so that the man of GOD can be thoroughly furnished unto all good works .
GUESS PAUL WORSHIPPED a book and NOT GOD . according to you all he did . cause look at what HE himself
said about THE SCRIPTURES sister . Now men who taught that stuff to you all did so for one reason
SO folks would not be made wise TO THEIR DECEPTOINS .

As do you..so tell me, why can’t you answer my Spirit questions?

How do you know God?

 

[amigo de christo]

We must be Born Of The Spirit, before we can ever come to understand the written word..= Spirit gives birth to spirit, which means what?

you are running out of gas sister . I ALREADY have said and do know we MUST BE BORN OF THE SPIRIT before we can EVER
truly understand the written word .
SO NOW i ask again . WHAT IS SO WRONG with a man who already knows what you said and says it
REMINDING FOLKS OF THE DIRE NEED to BE reading the scrips .
Where is my sin rita , where is my error . I have said more than once its only THE SPIRIT that can even open our
eyes to the understanding of the scrips .
SO where is my sin rita
where is my deadly error for SIMPLY REMINDING the people TO BE READING the BIBLE .
answer just that simple question .

 

[amigo de christo]

As do you..so tell me, why can’t you answer my Spirit questions?

How do you know God?

HOW do YOU KNOW you KNOW GOD rita . What if i i told you there are an innumeralbe
amount of people who beleive they KNOW and hear from GOD , from the SPIRIT
and yet their version of said god has led them far and deep into the broad raod of destruction .
ONLY the FATHER can draw us to the SON and it is the SON who revels the FATHER UNTO us .
SO enjoy that last sentence . but do take heed to the first part as well .
FOR MANY can claim but their heart be FAR FAR FROM HIM .

 

[Ritajanice]

HOW do YOU KNOW you KNOW GOD rita . What if i i told you there are an innumeralbe
amount of people who beleive they KNOW and hear from GOD , from the SPIRIT
and yet their version of said god has led them far and deep into the broad raod of destruction .
ONLY the FATHER can draw us to the SON and it is the SON who revels the FATHER UNTO us .
SO enjoy that last sentence . but do take heed to the first part as well .
FOR MANY can claim but their heart be FAR FAR FROM HIM .

I asked you a question?

I’ve posted many times on this thread how I became Born Of The Spirit, which lines up with His word.

Now you tell me how you know God, that his seed indwells us permanently?

 

[Ritajanice]

you are running out of gas sister . I ALREADY have said and do know we MUST BE BORN OF THE SPIRIT

Which means what?

 

[amigo de christo]

I asked you a question?

I’ve posted many times on this thread how I became Born Of The Spirit, which lines up with His word.

Now you tell me how you know God, that his seed indwells us permanently?

sorry rita but you are simply ducking the question and just keep on auto pilate asking more and more .
I will answer NOTHING more from you
UNTIL you answer WHAT IS SO WRONG with a man reminding all of the dire need to be reading the bible for themselves .
And ps , I DID answer your question .
THE FATHER draws us to CHRIST and CHRIST reveals THE FATHER to us . DONE SO BY THE SPIRIT .

 

[amigo de christo]

Which means what?

which means its time for you to answer the question i asked .
WHAT has been my evil , what is my sin , what is my deadly deceptoin and crime
FOR REMINDING all of the dire need to be reading their bibles .

 

[amigo de christo]

Which means what?