Woke female "Bishop" targets Trump at national cathedral prayer service

[Magdala]

These links show clearly an end times falling away from the truth churches
First link mentions this the Rt. Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde, the bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington.

A Gay Episcopalian Goes on a Catholic Spiritual Retreat

I know I'm not going to go to a gay wedding in a Catholic church anytime soon, and I know I'm not always going to agree with what the leaders of the Catholic Church have to say, but my time at Loyola affirmed for me that people of faith have more things in common than differences.

www.huffpost.com

How Christianity Became Cool Again

If more Christians can speak out the way Pope Francis and Archbishop Tutu have this week and so many have been in recent memory -- it will change the way people view Jesus and the faith that he inspires in so many of us.

www.huffpost.com

Desmond Tutu: I'd Choose Hell Over A Homophobic Heaven

Desmond Tutu: I'd Choose Hell Over A Homophobic Heaven

www.huffpost.com

God made two sexes: male and female. He intended for men and women as husbands and wives to procreate together. After the fall of Adam and Eve, suffering, disease, and death entered the world. Therefore, for example, some people are born with a disorder, others experience trauma, and so on, that make them feel they're meant to be, or attracted to, the opposite sex. That's out of their control.

What I don't support is committing immoralities, which is more grave if committed while knowing that it's wrong, regardless of one's sex and sexuality. If I see someone committing immorality, they're still someone made in God's image and likeness, whom He commands me to be charitable to, just as He's charitable to me despite any immoralities He sees me commit. None of us, with the exception of a few, are without having committed immorality, and thus what position are we in to judge others for the immoralities that they commit?

Additionally, despite Rev. Budde's denomination, no one in this thread has been able to point out anything in her almost 15 min sermon that is wrong.

 

[Debp]

“Don’t judge, so that you won’t be judged. For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you." (Matt. 7:1-2)

Additionally, can you please respond to post #179?

@Scott Downey posted the verses below: We in the church are to judge those within the church that are caught in such sins. We are not to affirm such behavior.

In a position of leadership, this woman bishop shouldn't be affirming LBGTQ+ ....that is an affront to God. She needs to be confronted about her unScriptural teaching.

(From Scott's post)
12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

She should be teaching:
Galatians 5:24
24Now those who belong to Christ Jesus crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

About the illegal migrant question you asked....ok, so she said most of them are just regular hardworking people. But if they entered the country illegally, that is still breaking the law.

Those in the church judge those in the church when it is properly run, to say differently is to be of Satan, the enemy of God and His people, who wants the church ruined and judged by God.
There are some things that are obviously to be judged.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?

13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

1 Cor 5

It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and such sexual immorality as is not even [a]named among the Gentiles—that a man has his father’s wife! 2 And you are [b]puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he who has done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I indeed, as absent in body but present in spirit, have already judged (as though I were present) him who has so done this deed. 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, along with my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord [c]Jesus.

6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? 7 Therefore [d]purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed [e]for us. 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Immorality Must Be Judged​

9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to [f]keep company with sexually immoral people. 10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.

12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

 

[Magdala]

@Scott Downey posted the verses below: We in the church are to judge those within the church that are caught in such sins.

And, Jesus warned us that if we judge then we too will be judged in return, "For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you." (Matt. 7:1-2)

Really disgusting... instead of a sermon, she gives a lecture to the President about the LBGTQ+ and illegal migrants.

"Pastors" or other clergy like her are the reason so many of the churches are going to hell.

President Trump said she owes the American people an apology.

FYI: The words "sermon" and "lecture" are synonymous.

Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde's sermon, or lecture, lasted for almost 15 minutes. In the following video, at the 12 min 26 sec mark, she begins speaking to our president, who proclaims himself to be a Christian, directly for the remaining 2 min and 18 seconds:

Why did she say in her sermon that makes you say she is "really disgusting", "going to hell", and should apologize?

She didn't have any concern about the young women murdered by illegal migrants. She falsely paints them all as doing no harm.

She said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely painting all immigrants as doing no harm, is it?

 

[Debp]

And, Jesus warned us that if we judge then we too will be judged in return, "For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you." (Matt. 7:1-2)



FYI: The words "sermon" and "lecture" are synonymous.

Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde's sermon, or lecture, lasted for almost 15 minutes. In the following video, at the 12 min 26 sec mark, she begins speaking to our president, who proclaims himself to be a Christian, directly for the remaining 2 min and 18 seconds:

Why did she say in her sermon that makes you say she is "really disgusting", "going to hell", and should apologize?



She said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely painting all immigrants as doing no harm, is it?

I already answered your questions. I don't have time to keep explaining to you that we need to admonish pastors that are leading people astray.
Many pastors were at that service and acknowledge she is in the LBGTQ+ agenda.

This is my last post to you as I cannot keep explaining to you that she is a false teacher....she isn't Scriptural.

 

[Magdala]

I already answered your questions.

You didn't point out what Rev. Budde said in her sermon that makes you say she is "really disgusting", "going to hell", and should apologize.

Additionally, you didn't answer "yes" or "no" to the following:

She didn't have any concern about the young women murdered by illegal migrants. She falsely paints them all as doing no harm.

She said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely painting all immigrants as doing no harm, is it?

 

[RLT63]

You didn't point out what Rev. Budde said in her sermon that makes you say she is "really disgusting", "going to hell", and should apologize.

Additionally, you didn't answer "yes" or "no" to the following:



She said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely painting all immigrants as doing no harm, is it?

The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals but all illegal immigrants are criminals because they broke the law coming here illegally

 

[Magdala]

The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals but all illegal immigrants are criminals because they broke the law coming here illegally

I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same.

 

[RLT63]

God made two sexes: male and female. He intended for men and women as husbands and wives to procreate together. After the fall of Adam and Eve, suffering, disease, and death entered the world. Therefore, for example, some people are born with a disorder, others experience trauma, and so on, that make them feel they're meant to be, or attracted to, the opposite sex. That's out of their control.

What I don't support is committing immoralities, which is more grave if committed while knowing that it's wrong, regardless of one's sex and sexuality. If I see someone committing immorality, they're still someone made in God's image and likeness, whom He commands me to be charitable to, just a He's charitable to me despite any immoralities He sees me commit and doesn't support. None of us, with the exception of a few, are without having committed immorality, and thus what position are any of us in to judge others for the immoralities that they commit?

Also, despite Rev. Budde's denomination, no one in this thread has been able to point out anything in her almost 15 min sermon that is wrong.

“The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings; who labor in poultry farms and meat packing plants; who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They…may not be citizens or have the proper documentation”

”Who will pick our cotton?”

 

[Magdala]

“The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings; who labor in poultry farms and meat packing plants; who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They…may not be citizens or have the proper documentation”

”Who will pick our cotton?”

Which part(s) of any of that do you think was wrong to say?

 

[RLT63]

I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same.

And I addressed her claim. You can see from her speech she was talking about illegal immigranrs

 

[Magdala]

And I addressed her claim. You can see from her speech she was talking about illegal immigranrs

You responded to a post of mine where I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same. Do you understand that it isn't?

 

[RLT63]

Which part(s) of any of that do you think was wrong to say?

She’s claiming they do all these jobs, and as people say “Who will pick our crops”

 

[RLT63]

You responded to a post of mine where I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same. Do you understand that it isn't?

Do you understand that all illegal immigrants are criminals?

 

[Magdala]

She’s claiming they do all these jobs, and as people say “Who will pick our crops”

So, you think that the vast majority of immigrants don't pick our crops, clean our office buildings, labor in poultry farms, meat packing plants, wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants, and work the night shifts in hospitals, and so on?

 

[Magdala]

Do you understand that all illegal immigrants are criminals?

Being in the United States without legal documentation is a civil offense. Illegal immigration is not a criminal offense in the United States unless the immigrant has been deported and re-entered without persmission.

Now, you responded to a post of mine where I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same. Do you understand that it isn't?

 

[RLT63]

So, you think that the vast majority of immigrants don't pick our crops, clean our office buildings, labor in poultry farms, meat packing plants, wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants, and work the night shifts in hospitals, and so on?

I think we can find people who are here legally who will be happy to do those jobs.
The same people who say everyone deserves a living wage say we have to pay illegals under the table to pick our crops

 

[RLT63]

Being in the United States without legal documentation is a civil offense. Illegal immigration is not a criminal offense in the United States unless the immigrant has been deported and re-entered without persmission.

Now, you responded to a post of mine where I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same. Do you understand that it isn't?

Wrong. It is a crime

Is It a Crime to Enter the U.S. Illegally?

Illegal entry (or "improper entry") to the US carries criminal penalties (fines and jail or prison time), in addition to civil penalties and immigration consequences

www.alllaw.com

For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.[/URL]

 

[Rockerduck]

I addressed @Debp's statement that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same.

You don't use the Preacher's podium to lecture a sitting president, who is only there for tradition. Who has a mandate from the people of this country. Who are tired of this broken immigration system. We need immigrants, and for years Mexico farm workers came across the border and worked for harvest season then went home. Something happened, they started staying and not even trying to be citizens, Have you noticed the flags at protests, those aren't American flags. Immigrants come to this country to be free, work, and be a citizen. You break the law, we all grew up with, and learned in school, and were taught to do so, then you pay the price. There are multiple legal ways to be in this country. most are temporary, don't just stay after your visa expires and then 10 years later, the Feds find you and, you go back home. In 10 years, they could be citizens. Daca is stupid, become a citizen, millions do. Dreamers went to school and learned everything a citizen does, so start the citizen process and be legal.

Stop shoving LGBTQ into family department stores and use DEI as a code for hiring LGBTQ. It will never be mainstream. Does anyone really believe a transgender male should compete against women in sports?

 

[Magdala]

Wrong. It is a crime

https://www.alllaw.com/articles/nol... or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.

Your own article doesn't negate what I just said. Did you even read your own article?

Now, you responded to a post of mine where I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same. Do you understand that it isn't?

 

[RLT63]

Your own article doesn't negate what I just said. Did you even read your own article?

Now, you responded to a post of mine where I addressed @Debp's assertion that Rev. Budde painted all immigrants as doing no harm, and pointed out that she actually said, "The vast majority of immigrants are not criminals", which isn't remotely the same. Do you understand that it isn't?

Yes it does
For the first improper entry offense, the person can be fined (as a criminal penalty), or imprisoned for up to six months, or both.
It is a criminal offense, on the first entry, you said it wasn’t
Stop being dishonest
@LuxMundi said “Being in the United States without legal documentation is a civil offense. Illegal immigration is not a criminal offense in the United States unless the immigrant has been deported and re-entered without persmission.”