"Remember that Proverbs is poetry"
Was there some kind of prototype of creation before the one we know of?
Was there some kind of prototype of creation before the one we know of?
Wisdom was God’s creation before the creation?
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Can someone please help me figure out what this guy was answering?
My question: Proverbs 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. Were the "fields" mentioned, quantum fields? Does the Bible use dust to describe atoms? Atoms to form Adam?
His answer:
Nope. Just fields, as in, you plant your wheat, corn, and veggies there.
The passage is referring to Wisdom, and essentially says that Wisdom was God’s creation before the creation. Remember that Proverbs is poetry, and unless you are a fundamentalist, you realize that it isn’t literal, was never meant to be literal, and needs to be interpreted using the cultural understandings and world-view of the writers.
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Back to me: If there was creation of humans beforehand it could explain evolution.
My question: Proverbs 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. Were the "fields" mentioned, quantum fields? Does the Bible use dust to describe atoms? Atoms to form Adam?
His answer:
Nope. Just fields, as in, you plant your wheat, corn, and veggies there.
The passage is referring to Wisdom, and essentially says that Wisdom was God’s creation before the creation. Remember that Proverbs is poetry, and unless you are a fundamentalist, you realize that it isn’t literal, was never meant to be literal, and needs to be interpreted using the cultural understandings and world-view of the writers.
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Back to me: If there was creation of humans beforehand it could explain evolution.
I asked this question because the following sure feels like it is talking about a prototype.
Proverbs 8
22 The Lord possessed (created) me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Proverbs 8
22 The Lord possessed (created) me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
Why would Christ be watching God the Father create when Christ was the one that physically created? It sounds like Christ was watching God the Father's plan/design.
Could it be related to this?:
Ecclesiastes 1:9
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Is Christ the Alpha and Omega, with God the Father being Higher than that?
Ecclesiastes 1:9
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Is Christ the Alpha and Omega, with God the Father being Higher than that?
Did Christ experience God the Father's plan/design before the Universe creation, in Proverbs 8:22-31? Are we being told what happened before our creation?
Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.
Is Christ the Alpha and Omega of God the Father's plan/design?
Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.
Is Christ the Alpha and Omega of God the Father's plan/design?
Ronald Nolette
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The Bible doesn't declare it so we should let it go!
The Triune Godhead is eternal so if they played around with ideas before the creation of the Bible- they opted not to tell us.
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