Will Trump seek asylum in Israel and Build the 3rd Temple?
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So you understand the symbolism of the body as a temple, but you can not see the symbolism of the new Jerusalem. I still fail to see how you're making the distinctions between literal and symbolic. There just doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to your decision making.
What's the point of having a literal tree called the tree of life, when the tree doesn't actually give us life?
Coincidentally, do you recall Paul comparing us believers, with Jesus as the root, to a tree? Rings a bell, doesn't it? Romans 11, I believe it was. Do you think we are also a literal tree? Or could this tree of life spoken of in Revelation, be speaking of us, in the same way that Paul was speaking of us? Could the tree be symbolic?
I know he wasn't speaking of the temple made of stone. That's the whole point. The new temple is not made of stone. Just as the new city is not made of stone.
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Scripture explains the symbolism for a temple representing the body. That does not happen for NJ. It is not symbolic and not one person nor you have offered any evidence of it being symbolic. You just claim it is and have nothing but opinion while I have offered scripture showing how literal it is.
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I don't find that the tree of life, growing on each side of a river producing 12 different kinds of fruit to be symbolic.
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You are arbitrarily deciding that as fact when it isn't. The new city has no temple so there is no connection to be made. Christ is literal and he will live in that city and people will come to the city, walk through the gates and visit. All of that is literal.
A temple is symbolic of the body, or a real stone temple. Scripture is clear on this.
Old Jerusalem is literal, and NJ is also described as literal.
You just willy Nilly decide things are symbolic without actual evidence, while I don't.
It's not a requirement for scripture to explicitly say "this symbolizes that", in order for us to understand symbolism. Do you think Jesus literally has a two edged sword coming out of his mouth? Or do you understand that to be symbolism for the words he speaks?
But you can't explain why that tree is there, and why it's called the tree of life if it does not actually give life. So do you think it's just there for decoration?
You don't? Do you think the seven golden lampstands are literally seven golden lampstands? Do you think Jesus has eyes of fire and feet of bronze? Do you think the four horsemen are literally four guys on horseback?
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Being a jerk isn't a crime and if we jailed everyone that said stupid things, there would be no Television. ;)
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And we cannot simply symbolize things just because, without clear justification. When one does that, the text can be changed into anything other than what was intended.
This is the kind of attitude that is ruining America today. This idea that you can persecute and destroy the lives of your political rivals or anyone you don't like or disagree with. Instead of contributing to this, as Christians, we should be advocating for the rule of law, fairness and understanding. And we should always look for the good in people, especially those we disagree with or don't like. Jesus told us to judge righteously, which means we judge fairly, not out of malice or anger.
So, it sounds like you agree that the Bible does not have to explicitly tell us something is symbolic. So there goes your argument.
Scripture's first prophecy:
Genesis 3
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
We aren't told that it's symbolic, so it must be literal, right?
atpollard
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While symbolic, it came closer to literal than most people reading it BC would have ever guessed.
A virgin birth and being nailed through the foot to a tree to destroy the power of evil was probably not most Rabbi’s first guess. :)
Through the Abraham Accords, Israel is seeking to normalize relations with Saudi Arabia, home of two of the three holiest sites (mosques) in Islam, Mecca (masjid al-haram) and Medina ( al-masjid an-nabawi); the third being in Jerusalem (al-masjid al-aqsa). Jordan currently has custodianship of the al-aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman of Saudi Arabia has indicated that he desires guardianship of all three of Islam's holy sites. If he is successful, and Israel normalizes relations with Saudi Arabia through the Abraham Accords, then anti-christ (or someone else) could at some point negotiate with the two countries to build the third temple. Stay tuned. We're getting close.
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How many Chicago citizens leave for Florida every hour? How many people from the rest of the world enter Chicago every hour?
You are telling me the whole city empties out and fills up every hour?
I find it humorous that anyone would try to convince me that a 2200 km cubed city, reaching over 2000 km into outer space, with only 12 entrances into the entire city, is literally going to happen. Get real man. It's absolutely ridiculous.
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