Why Do You Add Unto the Word of God?

[Tone]

In what way though? Spiritually?

Let me ask you something. ..is the will feminine?

 

[Mantis]

In what way though? Spiritually?

Well I’ve been taught they died spiritually but maybe God meant that the day that they ate of the tree their physical bodies began dying. And hence the curse started, bring death to everything Earth.

 

[n2thelight]

So, does that mean Jesus was in the ground for 3,000 years before being resurrected?

Of course not ,but the below verse has meaning

II Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

That means one week is 7,000 years, and we are coming to the Sabbath of that week very shortly, which the common name for the next thousand years is the "Millennium age".

It's called rightly dividing ,of course Adam didn't die that very day ,however it was that day in God's thinking ,that's why no one ever lived beyond that day, ie ,1000 years

Genesis 5:27 "And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died."

He was the oldest

 

[n2thelight]

Adam died a physical death too.

No sad, but rather Good News!

I will reveal the REAL meaning of the phrase Surely Die tonight.

So who may I ask are the new couple ?

 

[Base12]

Let me ask you something. ..is the will feminine?

You mean like 'his will' and 'her will'?

 

[Base12]

So who may I ask are the new couple ?

• The original Man and Woman were Adam and Ishshah.
• The new couple are Adam and Eve.

This is Ishshah...

Genesis 2:23
"And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

When God created a new being out of Adam's Rib, Adam named this new creation Ishshah. Most Bibles translate that word into 'Woman'.

Ishshah died when she partook of the Forbidden Fruit. God said Ishshah would die that very day, and that is precisely what happened. In fact, Adam died too.

The rest of the Creation Account is about how the couple were REINCARNATED into NEW BODIES.

Adam 2.0 kept the same name. Ishshah 2.0 however, was given a new name...

Genesis 3:20
"And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."

Thus, Eve became Adam's second Wife. Adam became Eve's second Husband.

 

[Base12]

Note that before the Fall, Men were made from the Dust of the Ground, while Women were made from Ribs. In other words, Man was made via Genetic Engineering and Cloning.

The Forbidden Fruit gave Adam and Eve sexual organs.

Now they could procreate on their own.

That is why Adam and Eve covered their private parts. They 'KNEW' they were naked. They saw something had changed with their physical appearance and were completely mortified and blown away by it.

 

[Tone]

You mean like 'his will' and 'her will'?

No, not male/female, but is the will feminine...?

 

[n2thelight]

Note that before the Fall, Men were made from the Dust of the Ground, while Women were made from Ribs. In other words, Man was made via Genetic Engineering and Cloning.

The Forbidden Fruit gave Adam and Eve sexual organs.

Now they could procreate on their own.

That is why Adam and Eve covered their private parts. They 'KNEW' they were naked. They saw something had changed with their physical appearance and were completely mortified and blown away by it.

First, Adam and Eve were not the first people

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them."

So it was on this sixth day that both man and woman of all races were formed, and each after their kind. Yet all forms of mankind red, yellow, black [brown], or white are all created in the image of God.

Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, ad over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

How may I ask could they replenish the earth without sexual organs?

 

[Base12]

No, not male/female, but is the will feminine...?

I don't know. Enlighten me.

 

[Tone]

I don't know. Enlighten me.

I thought you was sparking it up...

 

[Base12]

So it was on this sixth day that both man and woman of all races were formed, and each after their kind. Yet all forms of mankind red, yellow, black [brown], or white are all created in the image of God.

I see the point you are making, however I do not agree with it.

Genesis 1:26 is about re-creating (re-incarnating) only those that partook of the Forbidden Fruit. Scripture teaches that only Adam and Ishshah did that. Note that only those that partook receive reproductive organs.

What you are suggesting is that God created *new people from scratch again*, which means they did *not* have reproductive organs and could not procreate.

With the Serpent out of the way, these 'new people' would never be tempted... assuming the Tree of Knowledge was still there. I do not believe it was because the Garden of Eden fell and created this Universe after Adam and Ishshah partook.

No new people can be created from scratch once the Fall happened. Only reincarnations.

How may I ask could they replenish the earth without sexual organs?

See above.

 

[Base12]

I thought you was sparking it up...

Lol. I believe we are 'Tripart Beings'...

• Body
• Soul
• Spirit

I am assuming that @Taken believes we are only...

• Body (same as Soul)
• Spirit

...or something like that. Maybe @Taken can clarify.

Anyhow, my point is...

The Soul has to be separate from Body and Spirit if it has its own Gender.

It is just another Witness to this verse...

1 Thessalonians 5:23
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Three parts as opposed to one or two.

 

[Base12]

I will reveal the REAL meaning of the phrase Surely Die tonight.

Phrase: Surely Die
Found: 22 times in the KJV
Locations: All in the Old Testament
Summary: Every instance is referring to a person or group of people who are very wicked. In other words, they are all Unsaved and will go to Hell and the Lake of Fire after experiencing a physical death. They are considered ‘Twice Dead’.

Example #1:
Genesis 20:7
“Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt surely die, thou, and all that are thine.”

God is speaking to Abimelech, who just took Abraham’s Wife Sarah. If Abimelech does not release Sarah, he will ‘Surely Die’. Think about how angry God must have been to personally intervene like that. Do you really think Abimelech would go to Heaven if he disobeyed? No. Hell and the Lake of Fire would be his fate.

Thus, in the above example, Surely Die means to physically die and be condemned to the Second Death.

Example #2:
Numbers 26:65
“For the LORD had said of them, They shall surely die in the wilderness. And there was not left a man of them, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.”

God is speaking of the Israelites that would never see the Promised Land because they will ‘Surely Die’ in the wilderness. The Promised Land is a picture of Heaven for those that are Saved. The Israelites went to the opposite place for being wicked.

Once again, in the above example, Surely Die means they will physically die and not enter the Promised Land. They will not enter Heaven.

Example #3:
Judges 13:22
"And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God."

Manoah was sore afraid that he and his Wife would ‘Surely Die’ as a punishment.

Last Instance in the KJV:
Ezekiel 33:14
"Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;"

Over and over, the phrase 'Surely Die' is especially reserved for those that will not go to Heaven.

 

[Base12]

For those that like to study the original Hebrew, the phrase 'Surely Die' actually has the word 'Die' twice.

Strong's 4191: Muth
Strong's Hebrew: 4191. מוּת (muth) -- to die

Thus the Hebrew reads... "...thou shalt die die"

Do you know what the word 'Die' means when there are two in a row like that?

Twice Dead.

;)

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Phrase: Surely Die
Found: 22 times in the KJV
Locations: All in the Old Testament

Genesis 3:3-4 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. [4] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

John 21:23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?

John 21:23 Lexicon: Therefore this saying went out among the brethren that that disciple would not die; yet Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but only, "If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you?"

 

[Tone]

The Soul has to be separate from Body and Spirit if it has its own Gender.

Oh, I see.

The way I perceive it (which I believe C.S. Lewis illustrates as well) is that male and female deals with gender. And as you pointed out, I believe, any of the genders may include a masculine/feminine aspect.

For instance, I lean towards there being masculine/feminine angels, but certainly not male/ female as they do not reproduce...at least, not on a physical level.

Of course, I'm open to new wine, as it were.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Oh, I see.

The way I perceive it (which I believe C.S. Lewis illustrates as well) is that male and female deals with gender. And as you pointed out, I believe, any of the genders may include a masculine/feminine aspect.

For instance, I lean towards there being masculine/feminine angels, but certainly not male/ female as they do not reproduce...at least, not on a physical level.

Of course, I'm open to new wine, as it were.

I have a question. Where does it say angels do and cannot not reproduce? In Luke He speaks of the children of this world marry, then those accounted worthy (in Christ) to obtain that world “the resurrection of the dead” neither marry or are given in marriage. “Neither can they die any more:” for they are equal unto angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Luke 20:34-36. To say angels can not reproduce, solely off “neither male or female, not marrying or giving in marriage”...then when His word speaks of “a new creature” neither male or female, neither Jew or Greek, neither bond nor Free... “a new creature” doesn’t and can not reproduce because “a new creature” is neither male or female? How is this so when “a new creature” plants seed where life grows and springs forth from Christ?


“being the children of the resurrection.” Being the children of
Galatians 3:27-28 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Children of “the resurrection” implies children born of the resurrection, off-spring of ...
how is that possible? Where there is male nor female, bond nor free, Jew nor Greek but instead “a new creature” children of the resurrection?
Neither male nor female...does that mean unable to bear?

 

[Tone]

I have a question. Where does it say angels do and cannot not reproduce? In Luke He speaks of the children of this world marry, then those accounted worthy (in Christ) to obtain that world “the resurrection of the dead” neither marry or are given in marriage. “Neither can they die any more:” for they are equal unto angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Luke 20:34-36. To say angels can not reproduce, solely off “neither male or female, not marrying or giving in marriage”...then when His word speaks of “a new creature” neither male or female, neither Jew or Greek, neither bond nor Free... “a new creature” doesn’t and can not reproduce because “a new creature” is neither male or female? How is this so when “a new creature” plants seed where life grows and springs forth from Christ?


“being the children of the resurrection.” Being the children of
Galatians 3:27-28 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Children of “the resurrection” implies children born of the resurrection, off-spring of ...
how is that possible? Where there is male nor female, bond nor free, Jew nor Greek but instead “a new creature” children of the resurrection?
Neither male nor female...does that mean unable to bear?

Yeah, that's why I qualified it with this:

hey do not reproduce...at least, not on a physical level.

Because, I don't believe that they produce on a physical level...with male/female anatomy, but I lean towards them being able to bear fruit, i.e., spiritual fruit.

 

[Tone]

I have been pondering this lately and how it relates to marriage.

If I am not called to marry a physical woman and have children, then I consider anything I do for the Kingdom that bears fruit as my wife.

Of course, my wife and I...whether she be physical or not are to work together to bear fruit unto the kingdom, whether that be raising godly children and/or some other Kingdom business.

I hope I'm making some kinda sense...long day...I'm tired...