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Ritajanice

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Working on a reply is the opposite of evading replying. Therefore, this accusation of yours against me seems like a poor attempt to evade answering my question where I askd if there were any other answers of mine in post #11 that you wanted to reply to while you wait.
You haven’t answered not one of these questions.

How do you obey God’s commandments, that you say you obey?

What is the point of discussion with you, when we are on different levels of spiritual understanding?

Who is Gods witness!

What is spiritual understanding @Nephesh ?
 

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I’m not led by you thanks, I’m led by the Spirit.
I'm merely pointing out some fallacious logic. You can do with it what you want, or just ignore it, whatever you want.

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Ritajanice

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That's because I'm working on a reply to another question you asked at the moment. While you wait, any reply to what I said about veneration of God's holy servants, and are there any other answers of mine in post #11 that you want to reply to?
We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom of God?

What in us is Born Again?

We are under the NT?

Are you led by the Living Spirit?

If you don’t know that has been Born Again inside of you, there is no point in discussion further?


Do you understand this scripture?.... @Nephesh ?

Romans 8

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 

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Redefinition of what?

To redefine for you?

Or for you to redefine for me?
Redefinition of "Catholic bashing". To me, saying something like "Catholics don't speak God's truth" is Catholic bashing. If you don't think so, I can't account for that.

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Redefinition of "Catholic bashing". To me, saying something like "Catholics don't speak God's truth" is Catholic bashing. If you don't think so, I can't account for that.

Much love!
That is NOT catholic bashing.

They do not speak Gods truth when she explained being Born Of The Spirit.

Maybe you can explain it better?

As in Gods truth?
 

marks

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I’m pointing out all in your opinion.
You should look it up. Should you care. Knowing these things can help you avoid cognitive errors, and mis-statements.




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Ritajanice

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I can only work on one question at a time. So, while I work on replying to them, any reply to what I said about veneration of God's holy servants in post #62, and are there any other answers of mine in post #11 that you want to reply to?
You have worked on no questions that I asked you last night.

You shouldn’t have to work on being Born Born Again of imperishable seed..either you are or you ain’t.

Are you a Christian..or are you Born Again?
 

Ritajanice

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You should look it up. Should you care. Knowing these things can help you avoid cognitive errors, and mis-statements.
Indeed...we are all prone to err...so I ask again @marks ?

You don’t need to look up being Born Of The Spirit....that is a Living spiritual birth?

Are we Born Again by the written word...or by Gods Living witness...?

What in you is Born Again?





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marks

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You don’t need to look up being Born Of The Spirit....that is a Living spiritual birth?

Are we Born Again by the written word...or by Gods Living witness...?

What in you is Born Again?
You've posted the entirety of Romans 8, but if you want to discuss rebirth, we need to start in chapter 6. Is that what you would like to do?

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Ritajanice

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Anyone who commits sexual immorality offends God and his/her neighbor, and those guilty of it who were/are caretakers of souls will be held more accountable to Him. In response to observing our fellow brothers and sisters having offended God and neighbor, we should not judge, but if we must judge then it would be better to do so with charity. We do that by acknowledging that they possess a soul that is subject to the temptation of evil just as we do; that they failed to resist evil temptation, and thus have sinned just as we have; and that they are loved by God just as we are, then pray for them to the Father in the hope they will repent and receive forgiveness (Jas. 5:15-16).
And what does Gods word say about being Born Of His Seed?
 

Ritajanice

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That's a silly assertion to make since you can't see what I'm doing. Anyway, while I work on replying to your questions, any reply to what I said about veneration of God's holy servants in post #62, and are there any other answers of mine in post #11 that you want to reply to?
Are you a Christian or are you Born Again?

What in you has been Born Again?
 

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Catholics have rationalized and justified to themselves what they do for so long they just see it as normal Christian behavior; but it's not. Anyone who has never been exposed to it or indoctrinated can see this plain as day. Catholics want desperately to be accepted as Christians. They have succeeded for the most part; but those who know what Catholicism is about, and what Christianity is about, will never fall for it.
 
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Ritajanice

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You've posted the entirety of Romans 8, but if you want to discuss rebirth, we need to start in chapter 6. Is that what you would like to do?

Much love!
I asked you what it means to be Born Again.

What in you has been Born Again, that has got to be the most easiest question to answer.

Therefore why do you need to start in chapter 6?

Have you been Born Again of The written word?

Or have you been Born Again by Gods Living witness.

Why is that so hard to answer?
 

Ritajanice

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Catholics have rationalized and justified to themselves what they do for so long they just see it as normal Christian behavior; but it's not. Anyone who has never been exposed to it or indoctrinated can see this plain as day.
So, are you saying they have been indoctrinated to believe what they believe?

Who indoctrinated them?
 

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Therefore why do you need to start in chapter 6?
Because I think you need to see it in the Word. I'm not up for quick answers to gotcha questions used to change the subject. But if you truly would like to study rebirth with me I'd be happy to look at it with you.

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Ritajanice

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Because I think you need to see it in the Word. I'm not up for quick answers to gotcha questions used to change the subject. But if you truly would like to study rebirth with me I'd be happy to look at it with you.

Much love!
You do not need to read the written word to be Born Of The Spirit..do you actually understand that?

If you don’t, then it’s pointless going any further with you...if you know nothing regarding Gods witness, His Living Holy Spirit.?

Spirit gives birth to spirit?
 
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