Why didn't god give every soul as much time as it needed to become good? Why send so many to hell?

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The bible god is evil, even by his own standards. If he was good, then he would give every soul as much time as necessary to turn good and turn to him. Every soul would turn to god, if given enough time to fight the evil within by experience.

Every soul has evil and good within itself and the evil parts are dumber than the good parts. Good is smarter than evil, which means if it's given enough time to fight evil, it will eventually eradicate it thru its own orchestra. The bible of course ignores this, by saying that human souls don't deserve as much time as they would need to extinguish the evil within themselves thru the good within themselves.

That implies that the bible is a product of psychopathic intentions that man has long since have falsely portrayed to others as only being "but the bible says I should, which means I should".

The tactics of a psycho/serial killer mind would be to force primitive ideas on others thru barbaric uses of weapons and resources, then to claim to be innocent and not be the culprit. Such is the authors of the bible, who have done just that and have used lame excuses for their serial killer primitive uncontrollable urges.

As I and others have said before, Christianity is a terrorist based cult run primarily by mentally ill psychopaths. A true psychopath would not only be a terrorist, but would also terrorize anything it could out of uncontrollable urges, and would use anything it could access freely as a means to do so. Religion would be the main attraction to do that, because its freely accessible to everyone.
Well God knows all things, or there is no God. We are not promised forever on earth to keep living a life of sin.
What people don't understand is a war is on, there is a spiritual conflict between evil and good.
God has enemies. God destroys all His enemies.

2 Corinthians 10:4
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,



1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ, by the commandment of God our Savior and the Lord Jesus Christ, our hope,

2 To Timothy, a true son in the faith:

Grace, mercy, and peace from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

No Other Doctrine​

3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia—remain in Ephesus that you may [a]charge some that they teach no other doctrine, 4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith. 5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from [b]sincere faith, 6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.

8 But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, 9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is [c]contrary to sound doctrine, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust.

Glory to God for His Grace​

12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord who has enabled me, because He counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry, 13 although I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and an [d]insolent man; but I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. 14 And the grace of our Lord was exceedingly abundant, with faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 15 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief. 16 However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life. 17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, to [e]God who alone is wise, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

Fight the Good Fight​

18 This [f]charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, 19 having faith and a good conscience, which some having rejected, concerning the faith have suffered shipwreck, 20 of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.
 

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The bible god is evil, even by his own standards. If he was good, then he would give every soul as much time as necessary to turn good and turn to him. Every soul would turn to god, if given enough time to fight the evil within by experience.

Every soul has evil and good within itself and the evil parts are dumber than the good parts. Good is smarter than evil, which means if it's given enough time to fight evil, it will eventually eradicate it thru its own orchestra. The bible of course ignores this, by saying that human souls don't deserve as much time as they would need to extinguish the evil within themselves thru the good within themselves.

That implies that the bible is a product of psychopathic intentions that man has long since have falsely portrayed to others as only being "but the bible says I should, which means I should".

The tactics of a psycho/serial killer mind would be to force primitive ideas on others thru barbaric uses of weapons and resources, then to claim to be innocent and not be the culprit. Such is the authors of the bible, who have done just that and have used lame excuses for their serial killer primitive uncontrollable urges.

As I and others have said before, Christianity is a terrorist based cult run primarily by mentally ill psychopaths. A true psychopath would not only be a terrorist, but would also terrorize anything it could out of uncontrollable urges, and would use anything it could access freely as a means to do so. Religion would be the main attraction to do that, because its freely accessible to everyone.
Read your post last night and it stayed on my mind. For me you raised some good questions. Some valid ones that I also had to consider after you brought them up.

I notice this morning that you begin with God is evil. But then go on to speak (I think) of how much religion and how people use God in an evil way. To control and destroy and harm. I can relate to things you have given of your observations of “the bible God is evil”. When I first started reading His word I thought the Bible God was evil too. I wanted to know why God hated me. I wanted to know why He thought less of me by my being a weak (female) vessel. I heard a tyrant, a male chauvinist, the rituals played out in the Old Testament to me appeared very similar to Satanic worship. I had all the questions I think some women ask like why did God put the woman raped without in the unclean place but not her attacker?

I never expected to change my mind about those things. I’m telling you honestly now, that I misunderstood God by what I’d been told of Him by men where like you said …they quoted this is what God says. The first thing I saw that is significant to me is all the spoils of rape and war put without the gate. Yes..women raped but not her attacker also. Lepers unclean. So much more. I would read all the things God said to put without the gate in an unclean place. Then I saw that place without where an unclean people were collected …I really believe it’s the people where Jesus went without the gate to prepare a people in His own blood. See…at least consider God’s foreknowledge of Christ going without to a people who are sick and in need of a physician.

There were many other things after… that started to change my mind about “the God of the bible is evil.” It was my misunderstanding I think, the lens I’d been given by men to view God in a certain way that was …my looking through that lens all I saw was who they said God was.

When you spoke of how men use His word to harm and share similarities with psychopaths…I do see Jesus Christ (I think) agreeing with you. In fact I do think that was what He was telling them in the New Testament. That who they said or claimed God was, was not the real image of God. I know for certain I’d been taught of men of God as being a tyrant that was no where close to love.

So many verses have changed now. Like where God is always saying He will have His glory! How His name will be Glorified! I use to hear that demanding of His Glory in the tone of any one standing over the people in vanity …dressed in robes—-shouting like a dictator or control freak, slamming of the fist, demanding “GIVE. ME. My Glory!” but a small shift in the perspective from a Tyrant…and the TONE changes to the people are His Glory. Which to me fits God who does things not for His own profit but for others profit.

I get that may all sound like hogwash. I’m trying to share with you I don’t think you are wrong to feel or see the way you see it. I’ve been there…disappointed and confused and battling God in my kitchen shouting out “why would I even want to know you? Who are you God?! Your rituals sound like Satanic worship!”

If you get a chance read Numbers Five about the bitter water and the Law of Jealousies when her husband suspects her of adultery. I despised that one but it’s one of my favorites now. For me …it has the ability to cast down all vain imagination and it will transform who “the woman” is spoken about all the way through the Bible.

Point is…I do think you’ve been given a narrative of who the God of the Bible is from men and this world. I can see why you say “the God of the Bible is evil.” I do think it’s the opposite. It’s the men’s narrative given to you that is evil (corrupted).
 
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Read your post last night and it stayed on my mind. For me you raised some good questions. Some valid ones that I also had to consider after you brought them up.

I notice this morning that you begin with God is evil. But then go on to speak (I think) of how much religion and how people use God in an evil way. To control and destroy and harm. I can relate to things you have given of your observations of “the bible God is evil”. When I first started reading His word I thought the Bible God was evil too. I wanted to know why God hated me. I wanted to know why He thought less of me by my being a weak (female) vessel. I heard a tyrant, a male chauvinist, the rituals played out in the Old Testament to me appeared very similar to Satanic worship. I had all the questions I think some women ask like why did God put the woman raped without in the unclean place but not her attacker?

I never expected to change my mind about those things. I’m telling you honestly now, that I misunderstood God by what I’d been told of Him by men where like you said …they quoted this is what God says. The first thing I saw that is significant to me is all the spoils of rape and war put without the gate. Yes..women raped but not her attacker also. Lepers unclean. So much more. I would read all the things God said to put without the gate in an unclean place. Then I saw that place without where an unclean people were collected …I really believe it’s the people where Jesus went without the gate to prepare a people in His own blood. See…at least consider God’s foreknowledge of Christ going without to a people who are sick and in need of a physician.

There were many other things after… that started to change my mind about “the God of the bible is evil.” It was my misunderstanding I think, the lens I’d been given by men to view God in a certain way that was …my looking through that lens all I saw was who they said God was.

When you spoke of how men use His word to harm and share similarities with psychopaths…I do see Jesus Christ (I think) agreeing with you. In fact I do think that was what He was telling them in the New Testament. That who they said or claimed God was, was not the real image of God. I know for certain I’d been taught of men of God as being a tyrant that was no where close to love.

So many verses have changed now. Like where God is always saying He will have His glory! How His name will be Glorified! I use to hear that demanding of His Glory in the tone of any one standing over the people in vanity …dressed in robes—-shouting like a dictator or control freak, slamming of the fist, demanding “GIVE. ME. My Glory!” but a small shift in the perspective from a Tyrant…and the TONE changes to the people are His Glory. Which to me fits God who does things not for His own profit but for others profit.

I get that may all sound like hogwash. I’m trying to share with you I don’t think you are wrong to feel or see the way you see it. I’ve been there…disappointed and confused and battling God in my kitchen shouting out “why would I even want to know you? Who are you God?! Your rituals sound like Satanic worship!”

If you get a chance read Numbers Five about the bitter water and the Law of Jealousies when her husband suspects her of adultery. I despised that one but it’s one of my favorites now. For me …it has the ability to cast down all vain imagination and it will transform who “the woman” is spoken about all the way through the Bible.

Point is…I do think you’ve been given a narrative of who the God of the Bible is from men and this world. I can see why you say “the God of the Bible is evil.” I do think it’s the opposite. It’s the men’s narrative given to you that is evil (corrupted).

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But does God send anyone to hell seems to me its the other way around he has his hand out to save you from hell. I think this one is on Universalism again All were universally condemn so should all be universally saved remember Satan put you in hell not God .He has given a path to him and you can follow it or not.God wants to save all human souls but he has left it to us to decide our path hes not going to make you.
 

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he was good, then he would give every soul as much time as necessary to turn good and turn to him
How do you know that God hasn't given every person as much Information, enough experience and enough time to consider God's offer of salvation?
How do you know that after all this they still reject God?
 

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Why didn't god give every soul as much time as it needed to become good? Why send so many to hell?​

I'm persuaded God does not send anyone to death (hell)
God is in the saving business not the destroying business. It is the destroyer who deceives and kills (John 10:10)
Any who go to death choose so because there minds are so outta shape they think The Lamb is wrathful so they prefer to die than face him. Judas is a case in point. He parallels those at the end of time when Jesus returns (Revelation 6:16)
 
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Heaven is populated by those who say to God , " Your will be done. "

Hell is populatedby those to whom God has said, Your will be done. "
 
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