Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism

[Wrangler]

You want to wake up and stop idolising a so called people bro !

Never did I say I idolize them.

If it weren’t for anti-semitism, few would challenge supporting a democratic country run by Religion-X, surrounded by people in dictatorships obsessed with destroying them due to their fanatic devotion to Religion-Y.

 

[Wrangler]

Anyone who makes claims about being of being a Race set aside from the rest is a total moron !

Or understands the Biblical use of the term. From Definition of RACE

b
dated : a group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background

 

[Wrangler]

to the day that Christ Jesus came and bingo ! no such a thing as Jews exist under the roof of real Christianity in fact !

Jesus was a Jew.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Oh, the first 5?! Is a Jew a Hebrew Israelite? Yes or no?

That depends on what you believe a Jew to be..
But so you don’t accuse me of avoiding the question I will expound.

1. Adam
   1. lived 930 years
   2. died 216 yrs. before the birth of Noah
2. Seth = Adam's 3rd son
   1. lived 912 years
   2. Seth knew Noah for 34 years before he died
3. Methuselah (4th great grandson of Seth)
   1. lived 969 years
   2. Methuselah knew Adam 243 years*
   3. Methuselah knew Seth 355 years
4. Lemech (son of Methuselah)
   1. lived 777 years (died before his father)
   2. he is the father of Noah
   3. died 5 years before the flood
5. Noah lived 950 years
   1. Methuselah knew Noah 600 years and died the year of the flood
   2. Talked with his father, Lemech 595 years
6. Shem son of Noah (father of all Semites)

At this point we have no mention of Jews.. let’s continue…

1. Shem son of Noah (father of all Semites)
   1. lived 600 years
   2. talked with Methuselah 98 years*
   3. lived after the flood 502 years
2. Eber or Heber (great-grandson of Shem)
   1. lived 464 years
   2. knew both Noah and Shem
3. Terah (3 x great grandson of Eber)
   1. lived 205 years
   2. 130 yrs old when Abraham is born
   3. talked with both Noah and Shem

So now we have Semitic people that come from Shem and we have Hebrew that come from Eber, so the Hebrew are a Semitic people.

Let’s continue…

1. Abraham (Abram son of Terah)
   1. lived 175 years
   2. Abraham knew Shem son of Noah 150 years
   3. Noah died 2 yrs. before Abraham was born
   4. Heber outlives Abraham by 4 years
2. Isaac (son of Abraham and Sarah)
   1. lived 180 years
   2. knew Shem (son of Noah) 50 years*
3. Jacob (called Israel and son of Isaac and father of the 12 tribes)
   1. lived 147 years
   2. knew Abraham 20 years

Jacob had 12/13 children which would become Israel. So now we have Israelites that are Hebrew and are a Semitic people…

Let’s continue… noticing there is no mention of any Jew!

One of Jacobs (Israel) sons is Judah, which became a tribe.

Because of idolatry, God punished Judah, and the Two Tribe Southern Kingdom Judah was taken into captivity by the Babylonians. In 477 B.C.* Nebuchadnezzar took Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple of God (the same location of the Temple Mount in modern Israel). At this time there are still no Jews, there is only the Kingdom of Judah.

In the process of time SOME of the Kingdom of Judah were allowed to return to Jerusalem, most did not. So this small contingent of the Tribe of Judah stayed in Jerusalem and intermarried with the Babylonians, as well as the Edomites (sons of Esau Jacob/Israels’s brother by Isaac) and the Kenites (sons of Cain, which was the son of the serpent/satan {Gen 3:15}). These formed their own religion that was much different than the Old Testament religion of the Hebrews. These who are now called "Jews" added to the Old Testament Scriptures their own "Oral Law" called Talmud. This of course was a corruption of God’s Old Testament religion and the work of satan.

Not all of Israel or Judah are Jews and none of the Jews are Israel or Judah. It is these Jews that are in large number in modern day Israel (though there are also some true Judah and Israel there as well - they should be properly called Hebrews not Jews - but they don’t know this, it has been kept from them, they don’t know who they are, they have been betrayed by their parents ... parents ... parents).

So these Jews call themselves the chosen of God but in fact are the offspring of Judah that intermarried with the heathen peoples and formed their own perverted religion that disobeys God at almost every turn.

Jews" have very little if any Semitic blood in their veins and they have apostate into heathen religion and forsook God. They have more blood of Cain (Kenites) and the Edomites (Esua - Khazer Jews of Russia) in their veins than blood of Israel or true Judah for that matter. Call it the fox in the hen house if you will. But NOT ALL HEBREW PEOPLE ARE JEWS, in fact, very very very few Hebrew peoples became Jews, and true Israel and true Judah know not who they are.

 

[Taken]

@Truthnightmare said quagmire…

Quagmire means a difficult, precarious, or entrapping position…

And seemingly so.

Jewish…the word … was an identifier for the People of the Tribe of Judah, (the land, and the People thereof, blood descendants adjoined in like beliefs by the Tribe of Benjamin.
(with consideration, the Levites, were also a Tribe, without land. Traveling Priests )

Backing up to Barron wives…And their handmaidens given to their husbands for the precise purpose of producing offspring…
Ie Abram and Sarai and handmaiden Hagar.
Ie Abram and Hagar’ offspring Ishmael
Name change;
Abraham and Sarah offspring Isaac
Sarah dies…
Ie Abraham and Keturah offspring 5 sons.

Handmaidens?…concubines?…from their tribe?…from another Jewish tribe?…from non-Jewish people?….living in household ?…wife status?…and the offspring’s? … and the killing? …and the male son offspring’s birthright blessings….the trickery of selling into bondage?…the trickery for birthright blessing…?

AND the Umpteen laws, rules, declarations of status, after the facts of the mixing of different women, offsprings and trickery….
And WHO IS WHO…?

Name … Jacob…to ISRAEL
ISRAEL….all of Jacobs offspring?

Jacobs wives…more trickery…
* Leah…daughter of Laban and his wife
(6 sons, 1 daughter offspring)
* Rachel…daughter of Laban and his wife
(2 sons offspring) Joseph & Benjamin

* Leah’s handmaiden Zilpah
(Zilpah dau of Laban and concubine)
(2 sons offspring)
* Rachel’s handmaiden Bihah
(Bihah dau of Laban and concubine)
(2 sons offspring)

* Jacob’s (ISRAEL) father’ blessings to sons…does not give to son Reuben (son of Leah)…rather divides blessing between Joseph’s sons, (ie Jacob’s grandsons).

WAYS of men…regardless of chosen, appointed, servants of God….
Have historically and to this day REVEAL MANS…deceit, trickery, favoritism, instigating tribulations and family strife….

AND YET…God IS FAITHFUL…giving unexpected blessings…Keeping unto Himself those (regardless of deceitful human relationships) those FAITHFUL IN Belief IN God and a relationship WITH God Because of their BELIEF IN God.

In the END…Any man “heartfully” BELIEVING “IN” God, “IN” His Word, “IN” His Power (regardless of knowing or believing HIS multiple TITLES)…are Faith-fully…BELIEVING “IN”…The
Lord Word of God…JESUS…Maker…Son
God…I AM….Creator…Father
Almighty …Power…Glory…CHRIST…Spirit

In the END…
God searches EVERY mans Heart (ie spirit, ie true belief)… AND SHALL KEEP them unto Himself forever and God SHALL CALL THEM?
Israel, Jews, Gentiles, Americans, ?? No.
“ THEY” SHALL BE CALLED by God “Gods People”
(Ie Gods Inheritance).
AND “God” SHALL BE CALLED, by THEM…
”their God”.

*** “Some” people (Jews / the Race AND Gentiles / the Race ) have ALREADY (by, through, of Gods WAY) submitted their Word, Soul, Body, Spirit…UNTO a ONCE and For Ever reconciliation WITH the:
Lord God Almighty.

*** “THEY” are exclusively called…
Born Again Christians (regarding Gentile Race)
Messianic Jews (regarding Jewish Race)

A SEVEN Year span of Gods Tribulations are YET to come. (7 Seals, 7 Trumps, …)
chaos, destructions via wrathS (of the LAMB & of satan) wars, conquering, weather, quakes, famines, fears, revealings, corrective punishments, more reconciliations AND
( Bowls…)
Divisions, separations, wrath (of God) avenging punishments against unforgiven evil spirits and unforgiven wicked men.

THEN shall…Heaven and Earth be ONE Kingdom, ONE Lord God Almighty KING, ONE THRONE, the Occupants thereof ONE, Gods People, manifested that ALL SEE their God AS He IS.

The show isn’t over, ‘till it’s over.
ManKINDS “short-comings” according to the “EYES” of men… trying to determine WHOS WHO in Gods VIEW…patently irrelevant.

Meantime…PEOPLE…
Believe, Submit, Praise and Worship GOD.
Bless ISRAEL…let God decide WHO ARE His.
Pray FOR AMERICA…she IS on a slippery downward slope.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

Oh, the first 5?! Is a Jew a Hebrew Israelite? Yes or no.

That depends on what you believe a Jew to be..

I'm asking YOU. The fact that you cannot answer such a simple question of whether or not a Jew is a Hebrew Israelite shows how weak your argument is. Your argument is a desperate Appeal to Diversion and has nothing to do with why civilization should support Israel.

But NOT ALL HEBREW PEOPLE ARE JEWS

Your reliance on syllogisms will not save you.

 

[Wrangler]

Jews" have very little if any Semitic blood in their veins

Another naked racist appeal for all to see.

 

[Truthnightmare]

I'm asking YOU. The fact that you cannot answer such a simple question of whether or not a Jew is a Hebrew Israelite shows how weak your argument is. Your argument is a desperate Appeal to Diversion and has nothing to do with why civilization should support Israel.

Some Jews are Hebrews, but not all.
I have answered your question, to be straight, you don’t know the Bible, its so obvious. You don’t know the difference between an Israelite and a Jew you have never even read 1 Kings or Chronicles which would answer your silly little questions… Not to mention you speak to people in a manner you would never if they were standing right next to you.

Your understanding of the word of God is so limited that you scream diversion because you cannot keep up. So let’s just end it here no need to continue back on block and permanently.

 

[Jericho]

The protocols are merely an outlier for Zionism, and what is this dubious origin?

Nilus claimed to have received the Protocols from Alexis Sukhotin in 1901 and that Sukhotin had obtained the text from an "unknown" woman. The fact is, we don't know who authored the Procols or for what purpose. There is no clear, verifiable source that confirms the validity of the Protocols. Although the primary source is believed to be the earlier French satirical work titled "Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu," written by Maurice Joly in 1864.

This upside down five-pointed star is well known to all occultists as their symbol of Satan.

I've heard this before, but there is a problem with it. The Star of David first appeared as a Jewish symbol in the late medieval period, but it actually goes back further. It was found on ancient artifacts known as Messianc seals around the 3rd century and earlier. The Star of David is a combination of the base of the menorah (early Judaism symbol) with the trail of a fish (early Christian symbol). Therefore, the Star of David really represents the Jewish roots of Christianity. Look it up for yourself.

In the Zionist/communist scheme of world domination, it is Israel's role to continually stir up trouble in the Middle East. Since wars are a big part of this scheme of aggression, it is only natural that from early childhood on, Israeli youth are trained mentally and physically for war. For instance: Israel has its equivalent of Hitler's youth group. It is the Gadna; and all high school and junior high students are required to participate -- boys and girls. Like Hitler's youth group, the youth in Israel's Gadna are dressed in khaki uniforms. They take training and engage in paramilitary exercises.

Even at play, guns and thoughts of war are present. When on a picnic, instead of taking along baseball or soccer equipment, they take sub-machine guns and assault rifles and practice shooting and playing military games.

Once graduated from high school, all young boys are required to serve 3 years in the army (2 years for girls) or 4 years in the navy or air force (3 for girls). Ultra orthodox religious Jews are exempt from military service.

I looked up the Gadna and it literally lasts only a few days to a few weeks and doesn't provide full military training but is more of an introduction to the military. It's hardly equivalent to Hitler's youth. And I fail to see how it is different from what other countries do, such as the JROTC in the United States. Might I suggest that the reason the boys are required to serve 3 years and 2 years for the girls is because they are a tiny country and need a large enough standing army to defend themselves if attacked? Israel is painted as the aggressor here, yet they are the ones always being attacked, the most recent being last October.

Regarding the tie between the elite Ashkenazi Jew and the Nazis, take a look at the word 'Ashkenazi' -- look again 'Ashke-NAZI'.

That's a stretch. The word "Ashkenazi" is derived from the Hebrew term "Ashkenaz" (אַשְׁכְּנַז), which is mentioned in the Bible in the Table of Nations (Genesis 10:3 and 1 Chronicles 1:6). After Israel became a nation, they actively hunted down Nazis and Nazi collaborators who had fled Europe, so this assertion makes no sense.

The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler This book traces the history of the ancient Khazar Empire, a major but almost forgotten power in Eastern Europe, which in the Dark Ages became converted to Judaism. Khazaria was finally wiped out by the forces of Genghis Khan, but evidence indicates that the Khazars themselves migrated to Poland and formed the cradle of Western Jewry…

The Khazars’ sway extended from the Black Sea to the Caspian, from the Caucasus to the Volga, and they were instrumental in stopping the Muslim onslaught against Byzantium, the eastern jaw of the gigantic pincer movement that in the West swept across northern Africa and into Spain.

The problem is that Koestler was an author, not a geneticist. When The Thirteenth Tribe was written in 1976, DNA had not even been sequenced. The DNA studies that have been done to date do not support the Khazaria "theory." DNA evidence shows that Ashkenazi Jews derive their ancestry from a combination of sources tracing to both Europe and the Middle East, not the Caucasus region. Most likely, Jewish men who migrated from the Middle East and married European women who converted to Judaism.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Or understands the Biblical use of the term. From Definition of RACE

b
dated : a group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background

Christianity is not about race at all, it's about Christ Jesus !
A worthy Christian does not have any regard ones race being the issue, but that one is all under the one roof in fact.
The Jews in the OT were only one Tribe of many Semitic Tribes in fact.

Was The Tribe of the Jews about their Race ? No in was not about their Race at all being the key, but the Religion !

Only idiots boast of their race in fact as being the key !

The Jewish religion failed because they failed God in fact, but out of a few sprung up, like an Egg hatching and becomes New, because of the Christ Jesus in fact. Why did they fail every time, it was because they were lead astray by them within their own for they turned them from God! The story of the Vineyard proves it in fact !
So if it was not for Jesus the Jews religion would not be with us nowadays in fact and fact is the State it's not worthy of the OT in fact ! Not even half worthy in fact.
I would love to see true OT Law abound in the State that cunning bastards claimed Israel ? For it's not Israel at all in fact ! For it's not worthy of the OT in fact !

Christianity is Israel in fact ! well real true Christianity is Israel in fact, that's the people who are worthy of Christ Jesus in fact ! and if one is not worthy of Christ Jesus, then one is not Saved and No one who is truly Saved looks to some so called Jew to be Saved ? Oh gee i am looking for some moron claiming to be a Jew, for what ? Well such a one can not be Saved in fact.

People nowadays who are looking for the so called Jew to Save them are total morons ! The Jews could not save themselves in fact ! they needed Jesus for that !

St Stephen must of been the first what morons call Anti-Semite ? for he exposed them who were off track regarding God in Acts in fact ! So they killed him for it ! Just as they killed Jesus in fact and if one know and understands the story of the Vineyard one would understand that they killed all of Gods Prophets as well in fact !

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Never did I say I idolize them.

If it weren’t for anti-semitism, few would challenge supporting a democratic country run by Religion-X, surrounded by people in dictatorships obsessed with destroying them due to their fanatic devotion to Religion-Y.

Semites are around 90 % Islamic and less than 10% of the Jews in total in fact ! So why the claim of the Jews being the Semitic ? It's nuts and another deception that creates a delusion ? It's a Craft of Satanist to make such nonsense up in fact ! and only dupes fall for such because they are so shallow !

Why would a real Christian call Jews Semitic ? such does not compute in fact ! it's stupid, sure from a carnal perspective one may get away with such nonsense.

The Jews are Slaves ! and Islamic people are Slaves ! that's a fact ! Slaves to a Religion that is not worthy of God in fact, for they do not serve Christ Jesus in fact or know him, they may know of him, but they do not know him period ! Sadly most who claim to be Christians do not serve Christ Jesus in fact, but only serve a religion ? for one must truly be born again to know Christ Jesus in fact.

Anyone who is not truly born again has no Grace in fact ! for it's Christ Jesus who gives that to one in fact.
No one comes to the Father but only through his only begotten Son !

 

[Wrangler]

The Jewish religion failed

Along with China and India, Israel is the oldest civilization on Earth. The EXACT opposite of failure.

 

[Wrangler]

Jesus was a Jew.

In case there is any doubt, I read this in my devotional reading and thought of you. Salvation does not come through the Israeli's Hebrews according the Scripture.

John 4:22
Complete Jewish Bible
22 You people don’t know what you are worshipping; we worship what we do know, because salvation comes from the Jews.

 

[Wrangler]

Semites are around 90 % Islamic and less than 10% of the Jews in total in fact ! So why the claim of the Jews being the Semitic ?

Semantics.

You keep stubbornly using words in a different sense than most. The term "Semites" pre-exist the Islam religion. Consult your favorite lexicon to learn how the word "anti-semitism" is used to apply to Jews, specifically bigotry and discrimination against them.

You know this to be true. Your just reaching for a semantical argument.

 

[Wrangler]

Christianity is not about race at all, it's about Christ Jesus !

Here is where you reveal you are not understanding this thread. This thread topic is NOT Why Christians Should Defend Zionism.

This thread is about Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Here is where you reveal you are not understanding this thread. This thread topic is NOT Why Christians Should Defend Zionism.

This thread is about Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism.

The fact of the matter is that i do defend Zion, Biblical Zion you fool ! You have displayed that you have no idea what you are talking about, you are on the level of any Atheist in fact, that just swallows what main the stream foolish majority think or have been lead to think !

Why should i defend so called Zion ? For i know them to be totally Satanic cunning dogs ! not to mention anyone who does not understand Jesus is the Christ !
This so called Zionist are not worthy of Christ Jesus in fact ! so see that are you fooled to believe that this so called Zionist whore is worthy of God ! When it does not understand who Christ Jesus is in fact, if you do not understand that very issue you are a fool and a Anti-Christ in fact !

Semite is a Race in fact ! period !

Listen boy, you think i do not know what the dictionary claims, i am full well of that Satanic display ! That's only coming from a carnal issue ! made by total morons who have no regard for the Christian point of view in fact, as the issue is not about Semitic people in fact at all ! get that bro ! Such is a carnal point of view ! not to mention totally stupid in fact, for my Issue is coming from a Christian point of view and not some moronic Pagan point of halfwit load of total stupid BS ! That is a work of the Devil in fact, for it bastardises the whole issue in fact ! because it's coming from a moronic position, that just is total pathetic nonsense in fact. Such of theirs is just Semantics in fact ?

Anti-Semite means the Semitic people in fact period ! get that ! who could think any other ? truly Semitic is a Race ! but the Issue with Christianity's point of view, is that we are Israel in fact ! As any Christian worthy of Christ Jesus knows full well, that the Jews who were worthy were the first to become Christians in fact, now if you do not believe that you are an Anti-Christ in fact !
Why would one who knows Christ Jesus swallow anything that comes from anyone who does not know or support Christ Jesus in fact ! one would have to be an Anti-Christ to look to some so called fool claiming to be a Jew that is worthy to God ? who does not even fit into the OT Jews Religion, one must be cursed !

The Jew of today are wrong ! Period ! anyone who looks to them is a total fool in fact !

So how can some fool say that a worthy Christian is an Anti-Semite, when it's got nothing to do with a Race at all in fact ! It's a point of view regarding that they are wrong and sadly so sadly that they missed the boat !

I am lucky that i am a Semite who came to Jesus Christ ! for i understand the real issue in regards to God and what this world claims, for such is the same response that they gave Jesus in fact ! for they have no Grace,in fact, for they are Carnal or only religious dupes in fact and not Saved at all in fact !

Plenty people in the State Israel who are Semitic, get called a Anti-Semite ! for calling out the so called Zionist ! their have been demonstrations in the streets regarding Jews who call the So called Zionist Nazis bro ! for they do not want to be under the so called Zionist in fact as they claim the Zions do not represent the Jews in the State in fact ! But some moronic fool will come out and claim such people are Anti-Semitic ! How stupid ! Media claims such as Anti-Semitic Jews what nonsense !

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Along with China and India, Israel is the oldest civilization on Earth. The EXACT opposite of failure.

If you were a Christian you would understand that the Jews failed in fact ! and if you do not believe that fact then you are an Anti-Christ in fact !
Jesus came bro ! and the worthy Jews became Christians and the Jews who were lead astray were finished and got kicked out of the Land because they were not worthy of God in fact !

So you are having a two way bet ? or are demanding that it's all about the ones who failed God ! and the ones who worked to undermine all of Gods Prophets, not to mention Holy Moses and Jesus ! So such as you are supporting the Anti-Christ in fact !

Why can you not support Christ Jesus, what is wrong with you ! why do you idolise the so called Jews !

 

[Wrangler]

The fact of the matter is that i do defend Zion, Biblical Zion you fool !

As if there is a difference! Again…

Here is where you reveal you are not understanding this thread. This thread topic is NOT Why Christians Should Defend Zionism.

This thread is about Why Civilization Should Defend Zionism.

 

[Wrangler]

Listen boy, you think i do not know what the dictionary claims

What dictionary are you relying on to form your thoughts on anti-Semitic?

 

[Wrangler]

Plenty people in the State Israel who are Semitic, get called an Anti-Semite !

I asked this question earlier. You don’t think that a Jew could be anti-Zion?