Who managed to quit smoking?

[farouk]

@Nancy , FYI there have been a lot of new posts since your various comments on this thread a few days ago.

 

[farouk]

Thanks to all who voted so far in the poll!

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[Nancy]

well, the incense was probably didn't have too much smoke associated with it. The candles used olive oil, not sure what levels of smoke came from that and the smoke of the altars dissipated in the dessert air

True. Not to mention that tobacco, when combustion occurs, there are 4000+ chemicals and carcinogens being released into the air.

 

[farouk]

True. Not to mention that tobacco, when combustion occurs, there are 4000+ chemicals and carcinogens being released into the air.

Kind of underlines your advocacy of vaping, I guess.

 

[quietthinker]

Interesting point; hadn't considered it before...

The great preacher C H Spurgeon smoked, as it happened... (so don't feel guilt-manipulated...)

What a pitiful example. Do we now have permission to follow a life destroying habit?

 

[farouk]

how do you know he smoked?

Spurgeon and Smoking | The Reformed Reader

 

[quietthinker]

The great preacher C H Spurgeon smoked, as it happened... (so don't feel guilt-manipulated...)

Adam ate what God did not give him to eat. I suppose following that logic we also have permission to not do as Gods tells us???

 

[farouk]

Adam ate what God did not give him to eat. I suppose following that logic we also have permission to not do as Gods tells us???

I stand by the article I linked in answer to your question.

 

[farouk]

....well I have quit...then started back up....then quit....then started....I am back on the quit part of it....

Well, quit wholeheartedly or smoke wholeheartedly, but don't feel guilt-manipulated by other ppl.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Interesting point; hadn't considered it before...

The great preacher C H Spurgeon smoked, as it happened... (so don't feel guilt-manipulated...)

I never let men guilt manipulate me. If God has helped me to not let satan do this to me any more, I figure I can stand up to a mere man who attempts to make me live by HIS conscience.

 

[farouk]

I never let men guilt manipulate me. If God has helped me to not let satan do this to me any more, I figure I can stand up to a mere man who attempts to make me live by HIS conscience.

Well this is healthy, spiritually and psychologically if by God's grace you are your own woman. If you can quit, quit; if you still need your inhales, inhale. (I guess the great Spurgeon would have said something pretty similar.)

 

[quietthinker]

I never let men guilt manipulate me. If God has helped me to not let satan do this to me any more, I figure I can stand up to a mere man who attempts to make me live by HIS conscience.

God does give release but when we deliberately go back into the mud the burden becomes heavier.
The story of Israel's journey is testimony to that. It's given so that we learn.

 

[farouk]

... when we deliberately go back into the mud ...

If @stunnedbygrace indicates she smokes with a clear conscience, then your phrase here is far from accurate, to say the least.

 

[quietthinker]

You can be assured that inhaling smoke which poisons and stunts is not to the glory of God any more than loving your neighbours wife is. Didn't Eve think the forbidden fruit was desirable to eat?
Approving and or peddling poison does not come from the Father of lights, of that you can be certain.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

God does give release but when we deliberately go back into the mud the burden becomes heavier.
The story of Israel's journey is testimony to that. It's given so that we learn.

Meh. I don't recall them smoking cigarettes.

 

[farouk]

Meh. I don't recall them smoking cigarettes.

If you have a clear conscience, quit wholeheartedly or inhale wholeheartedly. Before the American Civil War it was actually very widespread on a Sunday for women emerging from church to take out their pipes and smoke them. (The better the day, the better the deed, so to speak.)

 

[Nancy]

Adam ate what God did not give him to eat. I suppose following that logic we also have permission to not do as Gods tells us???

I do not see a true child of God actually wanting to disobey Him, permissible or not. It's like an oxymoron to me, lol.

 

[farouk]

I do not see a true child of God actually wanting to disobey Him, permissible or not. It's like an oxymoron to me, lol.

...so the issue is really that of some ppl wanting to become lords over other people's consciences on matters apparently secondary and less than clear in Scripture.

 

[quietthinker]

If you have a clear conscience, quit wholeheartedly or inhale wholeheartedly. Before the American Civil War it was actually very widespread on a Sunday for women emerging from church to take out their pipes and smoke them. (The better the day, the better the deed, so to speak.)

It seems farouk, you justify any practice if it has mans approval. An approach straight from the pit.

 

[farouk]

It seems farouk, you justify any practice if it has mans approval. An approach straight from the pit.

Excuse me; I don't smoke. It's @stunnedbygrace who is the smoker and she has indicated that she has a clear conscience; so who made either you or me lords over her conscience?