Who is the Whore of babylon

[BreadOfLife]

In Psalms 2:7, the Father is identified as YHWH and the Son is not. Since there are at least eight Scriptures that also declare there is only ONE YHWH, then the Father is that ONE YHWH whether you like it or not. I know the truth is hard to accept at first, but you need to put away the errors you have been taught an embrace it.

It wasn't revealed in either Covenant. Deceived men twisted Scripture to come up with that doctrine.

And once again – YHVH doesn’t mean “Father” – so it san apply to the Father, the Son AND the Holy Spirit.

John 8:56-59
Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”
“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

They picked up stones to kill Him for blasphemy because He claimed to be God – uttering the SAME words God uttered to Moses (Exod. 3:14).

Even if you choose to accept the addition of the word "day" which is not found in the Greek text as "ημερα", you have yet to show that the Didache meant "Sunday" or that the "Lord" in that verse is Yeshua. It is bad enough to read him into the text, but to also read whatever English words you want into the text shows how careless you are in handling truth.

Soooooo, you simply ignored the corroborating evidence from the Didascalia Apostolorum (Teaching of the Apostles), which rendered line 1 from paragraph 14 of The Didache for it’s (Didascalia’s) repeated use of the term, “The Lord’s Day” in reference to Sunday.

Ignoring the evidence doesn’t make it “magically” go away . . .

 

[Marymog]

Ye BOL keep it going that grave is getting deeper.

That grave is getting deeper for the Baptist Church: https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...evealed-investigation/?utm_term=.f8bba1e75fc4

Maybe it is the anti-Christ church???

 

[mjrhealth]

What's the matter?? Didn't you know this about your cult??

The truth hurts - doesn't it?

Im not the one with the bold letters and the big in your face pictures, whos upset??

 

[mjrhealth]

Did YOU include the child raping going on in YOUR cult that I exposed back in Post #590??

Oh so now Jesus is a child rapist, you are a sick blind ignorant man. Mind you since you insist your church is His, it is what you have clearly being stating for years.

 

[mjrhealth]

That grave is getting deeper for the Baptist Church: https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...evealed-investigation/?utm_term=.f8bba1e75fc4

Maybe it is the anti-Christ church???

Could care less, you wont Find Christs followers in Church.

 

[Marymog]

Could care less, you wont Find Christs followers in Church.

And they aren't in your basement either.....

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh so now Jesus is a child rapist, you are a sick blind ignorant man. Mind you since you insist your church is His, it is what you have clearly being stating for years.

Once again - your inability to differentiate your sick, child-raping cult from Christ is at the root of your twisted allegiance to this manipulative pseudo-Christian organization.

But - since you don't know Christ - you obviously don't know WHO I'm talking about . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Im not the one with the bold letters and the big in your face pictures, whos upset??

Just exposing your cult, "aggressivechristianity.net" . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh so now Jesus is a child rapist, you are a sick blind ignorant man. Mind you since you insist your church is His, it is what you have clearly being stating for years.

Sorry pal - facts are facts.
YOUR Popess . . .

2 Christian sect leaders face more charges in New Mexico

Paramilitary sect leader Deborah Green sentenced 72 years for child abuse in New Mexico

 

[gadar perets]

1 Cor. 16:2 – Paul instructs the Corinthians to make contributions to the churches “on the first day of the week,” which is Sunday. This is because the primary day of Christian worship is Sunday. You say "the first day of the week follows Saturday (Sunday)" and deny it at the same time. You are not making any sense.

Oy vey! I was referring to you bringing up 1 Corinthians 10:16, not 1 Corinthians 16:2. The reason I don't make sense to you is because you are so quick to try and refute me that you don't even read what I wrote!

Wrong, It's a quote from Malachi 1:11. The Lord's Day is Sunday, and was understood by everyone to mean Sunday, and understood by everyone to be Sunday then and continued to mean Sunday for 2000 years. You are being stubborn.

It is actually a combination of Malachi 1:11 & 14, but either way, "YHWH" is Yeshua's Father and He is the "Lord" referred to. It was not understood as Sunday in the NT while the apostles were still alive.

Scripture repeatedly refers to "first day of the week" as Sunday. If they "loaded al those supplies" on Sunday to help others it's because they are not bound by your Jewish scruples.

I know it refers to Sunday. How many times do I have to say that? The Sabbath is not a "Jewish scruple", but a holy day of Almighty YHWH created before a Jew ever existed.

This is not the first time you have used scripture to demonize the early church. You cannot be reasoned with and that is why I am putting you on ignore.

HalleluYah!

The Last Supper IS the first Mass, every Mass uses the Lord's words.

 

[mjrhealth]

Once again - your inability to differentiate your sick, child-raping cult from Christ is at the root of your twisted allegiance to this manipulative pseudo-Christian organization.

But - since you don't know Christ - you obviously don't know WHO I'm talking about . . .

Why because I wont go to your church, does that offend you. You wont find Jesus there either.. Jesus is for people not mens religions, which is why the religious are always offended.

 

[gadar perets]

And once again – YHVH doesn’t mean “Father” – so it san apply to the Father, the Son AND the Holy Spirit.

John 8:56-59
Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.”
“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

They picked up stones to kill Him for blasphemy because He claimed to be God – uttering the SAME words God uttered to Moses (Exod. 3:14).

A typical BOL reply in which you read whatever you want into the text. I see nothing about blasphemy or any accusation of Yeshua claiming to be God or any words of Yeshua claiming to be God. The blind man of John 9 also said "I am" (ego eimi). Was he Yeshua in disguise or was he also the great "I AM"?

Soooooo, you simply ignored the corroborating evidence from the Didascalia Apostolorum (Teaching of the Apostles), which rendered line 1 from paragraph 14 of The Didache for it’s (Didascalia’s) repeated use of the term, “The Lord’s Day” in reference to Sunday.

Ignoring the evidence doesn’t make it “magically” go away . . .

Oooooh! So that's where the error of adding "day" started? With a deceived document written over a hundred+ years later?

 

[mjrhealth]

Sorry pal - facts are facts.
YOUR Popess . . .

2 Christian sect leaders face more charges in New Mexico

Paramilitary sect leader Deborah Green sentenced 72 years for child abuse in New Mexico

Yes lets post the endless cue of priest abusing children that BOL seem to love to justify, as it says

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I wonder what delightful post you do next, they have become quiet amusing.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes lets post the endless cue of priest abusing children that BOL seem to love to justify, as it says

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I wonder what delightful post you do next, they have become quiet amusing.

Gee - ad NONE of you have done that over the last few years.

Just letting you know that you need to clean up the mess on your OWN back yard before pointing fingers at others - which is your favorite past time . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

A typical BOL reply in which you read whatever you want into the text. I see nothing about blasphemy or any accusation of Yeshua claiming to be God or any words of Yeshua claiming to be God. The blind man of John 9 also said "I am" (ego eimi). Was he Yeshua in disguise or was he also the great "I AM"?

As usual - you FAIL to understand context.

The Blind Man wasn't claiming to have existed before Abraham - Jesus WAS. The Blind Man was simply identifying himself as the blind beggar by saying “I am the man” (John 9:9). When Jesus said, "I am" (ego eimi) (John 8:58) - He was repeating what He told Abraham in the burning bush.
BIG difference . . .

Oooooh! So that's where the error of adding "day" started? With a deceived document written over a hundred+ years later?

Nothing "deceived" about the document The Didascalia. You're simply discounting Apostolic Tradition (2 Thess. 2:15) - and that simply illustrates your shortfall. The Early Church certainly didn't - because they weren't Sola Scripturists.

THAT heresy didn't occur until the Protestant Revolt in the 16th century . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Why because I wont go to your church, does that offend you. You wont find Jesus there either.. Jesus is for people not mens religions, which is why the religious are always offended.

This, coming from a person who is deeply-entrenched in a man-made quasi-religious arms cult established in 1980 - and is now the subject of multiple police investigations and prison sentences . . .

 

[gadar perets]

As usual - you FAIL to understand context.

The Blind Man wasn't claiming to have existed before Abraham - Jesus WAS. The Blind Man was simply identifying himself as the blind beggar by saying “I am the man” (John 9:9). When Jesus said, "I am" (ego eimi) (John 8:58) - He was repeating what He told Abraham in the burning bush.
BIG difference . . .

No, not "BIG difference", but "BIG ASSUMPTION". The Being who spoke from the bush called Himself the "God of Abraham, the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob" (Exodus 3:6, 15-16). And what do we read in Acts 3:13a?

"The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified His Son Yeshua; ..."
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YHWH. the great I AM, glorified His Son Yeshua. So simple, yet deceived men must turn it into a great mystery that even their own adherents cannot comprehend.

Nothing "deceived" about the document The Didascalia. You're simply discounting Apostolic Tradition (2 Thess. 2:15) - and that simply illustrates your shortfall. The Early Church certainly didn't - because they weren't Sola Scripturists.

THAT heresy didn't occur until the Protestant Revolt in the 16th century . . .

Apostolic Tradition does not carry with it the authority to change the Torah that is to be written on New Covenant hearts and minds. Your brand of Apostolic Tradition is the mystery of iniquity.

 

[mjrhealth]

This, coming from a person who is deeply-entrenched in a man-made quasi-religious arms cult established in 1980 - and is now the subject of multiple police investigations and prison sentences . . .

Oh grow up, you really are just like a spoiled child, who is upset because the other kids wont play his stupid games.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh grow up, you really are just like a spoiled child, who is upset because the other kids wont play his stupid games.

Just exposing you to some stuff about your cult that you may NOT have known.

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, not "BIG difference", but "BIG ASSUMPTION". The Being who spoke from the bush called Himself the "God of Abraham, the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob" (Exodus 3:6, 15-16). And what do we read in Acts 3:13a?

"The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified His Son Yeshua; ..."
​

YHWH. the great I AM, glorified His Son Yeshua. So simple, yet deceived men must turn it into a great mystery that even their own adherents cannot comprehend.

The Pharisees picked up stones to kill Jesus after He made the statement, "Before Abraham was, I am" - because it was blasphemous. Blasphemy is a sin against GOD - not a mere human being like Moses.
Jesus was claiming to be GOD, and that's why they wanted to kill Him.

As for Acts 3:13, this is simply describing the different ROLES in the Trinity. Nobody ever said that Jesus is the Father. The Father is NOT the Son, either.

CONTEXT, my Scripturally-bankrupt friend. It's ALL about CONTEXT . . .

Apostolic Tradition does not carry with it the authority to change the Torah that is to be written on New Covenant hearts and minds. Your brand of Apostolic Tradition is the mystery of iniquity.

Apostolic Tradition is ON PAR with Scripture.
Why do I say that?? Because SCRIPTURE says that . . .

2 Thess 2:15
"Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, EITHER by an ORAL STATEMENT - OR by a letter from us."

Luke 10:16
Whoever LISTENS to YOU LISTENS to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."


Besides. the Apostles didn't "change" the Torah. they simply acknowledged that we are no longer bound by the Law - which is why Paul wrote:

Col. 2:16 (KJV)
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH DAYS.