WHO GETS THE HOUSE?

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GodsGrace

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That's not fair. Christians remain people with soulful needs. There are plenty of Bible based counselors out there meeting the needs of Christians.

I'm not saying the husband does not have problems. This thread is about distribution of assets.
He's not Christian...she says she is but who knows for sure...never speaks about Jesus.
I agree with what you said.
 

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That's not fair. Christians remain people with soulful needs. There are plenty of Bible based counselors out there meeting the needs of Christians.

I'm not saying the husband does not have problems. This thread is about distribution of assets.

Life's not fair, Brother. I'm not beating up on Counselors, God Bless them for what they do. But these people who have the ability to go a counselor are functional human beings. They can read and write and even drive cars...so they can read Bibles too! And it's all in there. We may be at the tail end of earth where the most lies have ever been and the least truth, but Jesus and His blood changed everything for corrupted man. We now have relationship with the Lord daily like in the garden of eden again. Only we still need snctification and purification which we have a christian duty to cooperate with in faith.

But my experience with those types is that they do not abide in Christ. They develop anxiety disorders and stuff like that and choose to lean on that rather than on the Lord. When scripture says that He is Jehovah Rapha, the Lord our healer. And Provider and everything. But if we don't lean on Him and lean on something from the world makes them in rebellion to God and they will lose any protection that they may have once had.

Seek ye first the kingdom of God. So God gave as a concession to man, Counselors and Medications because with us being at the earths end point are prolly the stupidest generation ever! I dunno why people find it hard to hold belief. I dunno if it was an evil spirit that came first and stayed long enough that it developed in a disorder or mental illness, or if they had a mental illness first and that attracted evil spirits?
 

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It's already broken Taken.
And she's in Germany so who knows what the law is.
Another atty appt on Monday....

If she doesn't get a new attorney, she better tell this one she feels he is being too lax about her predicament.

Now that we know he isn't a Christian and you aren't sure about her... that's the problem.
 

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If she doesn't get a new attorney, she better tell this one she feels he is being too lax about her predicament.

Now that we know he isn't a Christian and you aren't sure about her... that's the problem.
She's calling tonight.
This atty is making easy for HIMSELF (the atty).
I think she needs someone a little more aggressive that tells the husband to leave the house..
this one is telling HER to leave the house. Why should she? She's not the one that wants this divorce!
 
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My feelings exactly.
A woman works hard to create a home....
why should SHE leave her HOME because he wants to quit the marriage??

Maybe a home isn't worth anything anymore and is just a house.

I have to agree.

However, if it was the woman who wanted to quit and marry another man, the I would have to say the outcome would be different.
 

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I have to agree.

However, if it was the woman who wanted to quit and marry another man, the I would have to say the outcome would be different.
Agreed. As you stated....whoever wants to end the marriage should leave the home.
The reason this is bothering me so much is because there have been so many break-ups lately.
14 families in my immediate area....4 divorces.
And it's getting worse.
 

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Agreed. As you stated....whoever wants to end the marriage should leave the home.
The reason this is bothering me so much is because there have been so many break-ups lately.
14 families in my immediate area....4 divorces.
And it's getting worse.
If anyone got married before 1950, they stayed married through thick or then. In the 1960's something happened, and it was no longer a bad word to be called a "divorcee". Then it became common by the 1970's. Something changed in the world where people just cannot stay together like before, the determination to stay together and build a life together doesn't seem isn't as important. Look at the generation of children that are left and how they act now.
 
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If anyone got married before 1950, they stayed married through thick or then. In the 1960's something happened, and it was no longer a bad word to be called a "divorcee". Then it became common by the 1970's. Something changed in the world where people just cannot stay together like before, the determination to stay together and build a life together doesn't seem isn't as important. Look at the generation of children that are left and how they act now.
Such a sad state of affairs Rockerduck.
Here's what happened:
In the 60's women were liberated...so they could become slaves.
Before they worked at home and made a real home for the husband and children.
After they had to go to work AND still maintain the house.

They were taught to think about themselves and not their family...
The role of mother and wife was removed from societal conscience.

So they started to think about themselves,,,,at the cost of everything else.

It's just getting worse. Most couples don't even want children..or maybe just one.
And they live together until they're ready to get married.
So they get married after they've been married for 2 to even 7 or 8 years.
What's the point?
What's the difference?
Marriage doesn't mean much anymore.
 

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Such a sad state of affairs Rockerduck.
Here's what happened:
In the 60's women were liberated...so they could become slaves.
Before they worked at home and made a real home for the husband and children.
After they had to go to work AND still maintain the house.

They were taught to think about themselves and not their family...
The role of mother and wife was removed from societal conscience.

So they started to think about themselves,,,,at the cost of everything else.

It's just getting worse. Most couples don't even want children..or maybe just one.
And they live together until they're ready to get married.
So they get married after they've been married for 2 to even 7 or 8 years.
What's the point?
What's the difference?
Marriage doesn't mean much anymore.
To add to that, after women joined the work force, affairs started happening and then divorces skyrocketed.
 
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@Nancy
Just got a like from you and it reminded me of this thread.
My friend in Germany went to a different lawyer and took one of her German friends with her.
Good idea because English is her mother tongue.
Get this: The atty told her it would be better if she left the house!
The husband has to give her half of his salary...
pay her rent in her new home (which will have to be an apartment at this point).
and give her an "allowance" which I don't really understand.

So now she's trying to decide if she should stay in Berlin or move back to London.
I feel so badly for her...she's in a mess. (her family is in London).
 
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@Nancy
Just got a like from you and it reminded me of this thread.
My friend in Germany went to a different lawyer and took one of her German friends with her.
Good idea because English is her mother tongue.
Get this: The atty told her it would be better if she left the house!
The husband has to give her half of his salary...
pay her rent in her new home (which will have to be an apartment at this point).
and give her an "allowance" which I don't really understand.

So now she's trying to decide if she should stay in Berlin or move back to London.
I feel so badly for her...she's in a mess. (her family is in London).
Wow. That man will not have any money left. I'd move back to London. It sounds like her name isn't on the Mortgage or deed. Hince, force the sale of the house. An "allowance" is the same as alimony. She gets half his salary, alimony, and rent money. You are right, the allowance doesn't sound right, if she gets half his salary.
 

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@Nancy
Just got a like from you and it reminded me of this thread.
My friend in Germany went to a different lawyer and took one of her German friends with her.
Good idea because English is her mother tongue.
Get this: The atty told her it would be better if she left the house!
The husband has to give her half of his salary...
pay her rent in her new home (which will have to be an apartment at this point).
and give her an "allowance" which I don't really understand.

So now she's trying to decide if she should stay in Berlin or move back to London.
I feel so badly for her...she's in a mess. (her family is in London).
Thanks for the update.

Maybe she should ask her attorney if she moves back to the UK if that would create any problems about her getting those things from her husband?

Unless she really, really loves Germany, it might be best to be around her family.
 

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Wow. That man will not have any money left. I'd move back to London. It sounds like her name isn't on the Mortgage or deed. Hince, force the sale of the house. An "allowance" is the same as alimony. She gets half his salary, alimony, and rent money. You are right, the allowance doesn't sound right, if she gets half his salary.
He'll have money left.
Right now she's worried about where to live and if she'll be able to get a job
to make a pension for herself for the future.
And all the emotional turmoil - and for what?
Marriage is supposed to be a commitment...
 
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Thanks for the update.

Maybe she should ask her attorney if she moves back to the UK if that would create any problems about her getting those things from her husband?

Unless she really, really loves Germany, it might be best to be around her family.
He would owe it to her no matter where she lives.
I agree with you that she should be around her family.
I'm just happy she went to a different atty that explained things better.
 
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@Nancy
Just got a like from you and it reminded me of this thread.
My friend in Germany went to a different lawyer and took one of her German friends with her.
Good idea because English is her mother tongue.
Get this: The atty told her it would be better if she left the house!
The husband has to give her half of his salary...
pay her rent in her new home (which will have to be an apartment at this point).
and give her an "allowance" which I don't really understand.

So now she's trying to decide if she should stay in Berlin or move back to London.
I feel so badly for her...she's in a mess. (her family is in London).
I suppose Germany has very different laws regarding divorce/separation. I will pray for your friend and, I hope she will move back to London to be near family.
Strange that the attny. instructed her to move out of the house! If that happened here in the US, the house goes to the one who stays. At least, that is what one of my sisters told me when she took the kids and left.
 
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I think we would be horrified if we knew thy full extent of broken marriages, even in the church. The numbers of "blended" families, solo parents, have exponentially increased over the last few decades, and the entertainment industry has portrayed this a "normal". It is not normal. It's a sign of demonic hatred for marriage, and if we include the lgbtq$&¤£{¥ paradigm into the mix, i think we can have some understanding of the scope of the current issue. The psychological effects on children can, i believe, be seen in today's youth crime rates. Broken marriage of course isn't the only problem. Education and the 100 year old grand plan of dumbing down the younger generations through psychological conditioning in school, has had equal effect on destroying the family unit. At the root of it is often money, and or adultery. And Christ really is the only answer.
 

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I think we would be horrified if we knew thy full extent of broken marriages, even in the church. The numbers of "blended" families, solo parents, have exponentially increased over the last few decades, and the entertainment industry has portrayed this a "normal". It is not normal. It's a sign of demonic hatred for marriage, and if we include the lgbtq$&¤£{¥ paradigm into the mix, i think we can have some understanding of the scope of the current issue. The psychological effects on children can, i believe, be seen in today's youth crime rates. Broken marriage of course isn't the only problem. Education and the 100 year old grand plan of dumbing down the younger generations through psychological conditioning in school, has had equal effect on destroying the family unit. At the root of it is often money, and or adultery. And Christ really is the only answer.
You know....I've been here a long time now and don't really know what's going on in the US anymore...
but when I go to church (not often sorry to say) I attend a Catholic Church and DIVORCE is never spoken of...
ABORTION is never spoken of....ADULTERY is never spoken of ------- and their consequences.

Does any denomination speak to this anymore? The Assy of God used to.
Satan must be so happy.
 
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