What will the disciples do if the Master tarries any longer?

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Dodo_David

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DaDad said:
To presuppose that knowledge is either good or bad, preempts GOD's divine prerogative.

As it is, I would argue that where Scripture discounts knowing the DAY and the HOUR, it does not discount the week, month, season, year, etc. Furthermore, I would observe that knowing the year is elementary, and the season obvious. And if someone were well versed in the significance of the feasts, one could reasonably arrive to the week.

But if the church elects to remain ignorant, who am I to disrupt that "bliss".


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Jesus makes it clear that only God the Father knows when the second coming of the Messiah will take place.
 

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Dodo_David said:
Jesus makes it clear that only God the Father knows when the second coming of the Messiah will take place.
No, -- only GOD knows the DAY and the HOUR. To presume otherwise adds to Scripture, and Rev. 22:18 paints a dire prospect for such a transgression.

I'd gladly stand corrected if you can cite a verse which includes: week, month, season, year, decade, score, century, millennia. Conversely, you should equally accept Scriptural evidence which I would assert provides the YEAR. -- Fair enough?!?


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DaDad said:
To presuppose that knowledge is either good or bad, preempts GOD's divine prerogative.

As it is, I would argue that where Scripture discounts knowing the DAY and the HOUR, it does not discount the week, month, season, year, etc. Furthermore, I would observe that knowing the year is elementary, and the season obvious. And if someone were well versed in the significance of the feasts, one could reasonably arrive to the week.

But if the church elects to remain ignorant, who am I to disrupt that "bliss".


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Many people have used many things to claim the date .... all have been wrong so far.

The latest one is the 100+ year old Rabbi who died and gave the name of the Messiah in a letter not to be opened until a year after his death.

He also said Jesus would return after Arial Sharon died.
 

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Arnie Manitoba said:
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Many people have used many things to claim the date ....
Many people have claimed to be the Messiah, and one will soon take center stage.

Using your logic no one knows the TRUE Messiah.


In fact Scripture provides that which is unknown to you, just as Jesus is unknown to the Jews.
(Please note that no man knows the DAY or the HOUR, but other durations are fair-game.)

DaDad


PS Jesus WILL COME after Arial Sharon has died. ;)
 

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DaDad said:
PS Jesus WILL COME after Arial Sharon has died. ;)
Well, spiritually speaking Jesus came to me before Arial Sharon died, but otherwise, I gotta say this prediction is right on!

(RIP Arial Sharon)....
 

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Hi FHII,

I would equally argue that the a/c shall come after Daniel's seventieth week:

Daniel 9 (RSV)
27 And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause sacrifice and offering to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.”


But regarding Arial Sharon, Pat Robertson argued that where Yitzak Rabin gave partial control of the West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinians, and Sharon gave full control of Gaza, -- the first was assassinated, and the second had a stroke. -- Of course Robertson took a lot of heat for his comment, but I believe he was accurate:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/01/05/robertson-stroke-was-god-wrath/

Robertson: Stroke Was God's Wrath

Published January 05, 2006Associated Press


NORFOLK, Va. – Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson
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suggested Thursday that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine punishment for "dividing God's land."

"God considers this land to be his," Robertson said on his TV program "The 700 Club." "You read the Bible and he says `This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, `No, this is mine."'

Sharon, who ordered Israel's withdrawal from Gaza last year, suffered a severe stroke on Wednesday.

In Robertson's broadcast from his Christian Broadcasting Network
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in Virginia Beach, the evangelist said he had personally prayed about a year ago with Sharon, whom he called "a very tender-hearted man and a good friend." He said he was sad to see Sharon in this condition.


He also said, however, that in the Bible, the prophet Joel "makes it very clear that God has enmity against those who 'divide my land."'

Sharon "was dividing God's land and I would say woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the EU (European Union), the United Nations, or the United States of America," Robertson said.

In discussing what he said was God's insistence that Israel not be divided, Robertson also referred to the 1995 assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin
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, who had sought to achieve peace by giving land to the Palestinians. "It was a terrible thing that happened, but nevertheless he was dead," he said.


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DaDad,

That is interesting and I will look into it. But my comment was more tongue in cheek. Sharon died... Jesus has come in the spirit but not in the flesh (and I laugh... When he does make his appearance, things ain't going to be pretty!). Thus... Jesus will come after Ariel dies. Wasn't meant to be taken more seriously than that...
 

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FHII said:
DaDad,

That is interesting and I will look into it. But my comment was more tongue in cheek. Sharon died... Jesus has come in the spirit but not in the flesh (and I laugh... When he does make his appearance, things ain't going to be pretty!). Thus... Jesus will come after Ariel dies. Wasn't meant to be taken more seriously than that...
Agreed, -- as was my "PS". ;)
 

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Arnie Manitoba said:
108 year old Rabbi reveals the name of the Messiah
He also said Jesus would be revealed after Sharon died.
Hi Arnie,

I don't mind people having personal revelation, but it certainly helps if it's confirmed by Scripture. As such, I would propose that I can substantiate the assassination of Yitzak Rabin; the beginning of the 42-month long Tribulation the end of the Tribulation, -- presupposing that these coincide with the Return of Jesus; but cannot find any substantiation of Sharon either in life or in death.


DaDad