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What Satan Doesn't Want You to Know
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Taken
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Reconciling unto God IS:
#1 Doing the works of God.
** Do the Works of God IS:
Heartfully Believing IN God AND the One He Sent.
#2 One Serving God.
** Service unto God IS:
An individual Declaring ones Heartful Belief IN God AND the One He Sent…AND Willingly Pledging his Body unto Death FOR God.
(Simply called being crucified WITH the Body of the Lord Jesus.)
Once an individual HAS:
Accomplished the Works of God AND that Individual (by his own power, stamina, ability to reject temptations, ability to stave off and not be fooled by, evil powerful fallen angels or powerful wicked men….)
ON the day that mans BODY ceases to be ALIVE, that mans BODY and SOUL “SHALL BE FORGIVEN, that mans SOUL “SHALL BE SAVED”.
(IF that mans falls into temptation, and Rejects God and the One He sent…the SALVATION that man “could have had” SHALL be With-held from him…Forfited.
Once an individual HAS:
Accomplished the Works OF God…AND
Accomplished his Service unto God…
THAT MAN IS:
Forgiven (by God) of his SIN Against God
Bodily cleansed (washed in Jesus’ Blood)
Sanctified (set Apart unto God)
Justified (to be bodily raised up in a glorious sinless new body)
His body of sin COVERED, with Gods indwelling Spirit.
Sin in his body, remembered (by God), no more.
The old heart circumcised
A new heart given
The New Heart Given the Seed of God
The SEED of God is Birthed, (by the power of God)
The SEED of God which births a mans new “spirit”, from a natural truth to a supernatural truth…IS FOREVER “SEALED” unto God.
The New Heart’s SPIRIT (TRUTH) Given Gods Spirit of Truth. (Which Gods SPIRIT IS: the POWER that KEEPS that man FOREVER “WITH” the Lord God Almighty.)
The New Heart’s spirit is NOW prepared to Commune ONE on ONE WITH the Lord God.
The New Heart’s spirit is NOW “able” directly from the Lord God to receive Gods UNDERSTANDING of Gods own Word.
* ASK and you SHALL receive.
Never AGAIN can THAT ^^ man SIN AGAINST God, which IS TO SAY, never AGAIN can that mans BODY, SOUL, SPIRIT deny, reject, not Believe or Stand AGAINST the Lord God Almighty.
A man Stealing from another man…
A man Lying to another man…
A man Cheating another man…
IS: a man Trespassing AGAINST another man.
Men forgive men of Trespasses.
God forgives men of SIN, which SIN AGAINST God IS having DISBELIEF IN God and the One He sent.
Earthly Men have No requirement to BELIEVE IN other Earthly Men. Thus Men do not SIN against men or Forgive men of SIN.
Blessings and Glory to God without End,
Taken
Taken
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God created and made ALL of His angels with levels of power “greater” than His created and made Earthlings.
Angels and Mankind were MADE with Freewill.
Some Angels freely chose to REJECT God…and THEY lost their ESTATE in the Mid-Heavens. THEY did NOT Lose their “powers”. They did NOT Lose their “freewill”. “YET”…
Some men freely chose/choose to REJECT God…and YES that causes strife, disagreements, chaos, among and between men. God neither inhibits their power or freewill or STOPS THEM from Rejecting God.
However GOD SHALL, by His Righteousness, Faithfulness and True Word, Cause an END to the DIVISION and SEPARATE those Angels and those Men WITHOUT Him FROM those Angels and those Men WITH HIM.
Gods PLAN is not Secret, daily unfolding before the eyes of every generation of men.
This IS a WORLD without End.
However WHO shall occupy This WORLD (which SHALL Be AS it IS IN Heaven), IS quickly coming to a close, of Discontent among and between men and evil influence present ON Earth.
Glory to God,
Taken
BlessedPeace
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Are there any parts of God's word you might share here that state that? And specifically that God imbued humans with free will?
Any verses referring to angels being given free will would also be appreciated.
1stCenturyLady
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Jesus didn't die for Himself, He died to save us from Satan's influence, and He accomplished what He was sent for.
Behold
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Jesus was tempted to Sin, but didnt.
He could have, being a man.
So, He was not excluded from Temptation, and was not barred from sinning.
He was born under the law, and had all the temptations that we face, "Yet without sin". and that is not because He couldn't.. Its because He chose to not sin.
He CHOSE to live holy, and sinless, exactly as He chose to go to the Cross, which He didn't have to do...
This is why He said...."THY WILL be done......>Your WILL i will do"....
He had a CHOICE.
Behold
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Really?
Pray right now that God will send Jesus back, in the next 6 minutes.
Let see if 100% of your prayers are "answered miraculously"... as you falsely claimed again.
Whats that?
Can't pray that one?
I didnt think so.
Behold
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If Jesus has done this....>>.."God hath made Jesus to be sin for us"... then the born again do not have sin.
If He has not become our sin, then you do.
1 John 3:9 is for the Believer, not 1 John 1:8., and be careful of the version you use, as some of them are totally Corrupted, like the ESV.
We can't be "in Christ" or "one with God" and have sin.
Its impossible. Why?
Because God would not join Himself to Sin.
We have to "being now made FREE FROM SIN">......so that God can THEN join Himself to us, Spiritually.
= Born again.
= No sin "in Christ".
Jesus is the savior of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. The law has been fulfilled and abolished and all sin has been atoned for.
1stCenturyLady
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Hi Behold,
Temptation is far from sinning. Those of us to are born again of the same seed of the Father 1 John 3:9 do not have a desire to sin either. Jesus demonstrated what the life of the born again of the Spirit is like. Jesus was the first of MANY BRETHREN that live just like He did.
1stCenturyLady
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That would be my will, or your will. Answered prayer doesn't work that way. If your prayers were answered you'd know that.
1stCenturyLady
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1stCenturyLady
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Don't forget that Jesus cleansed our sin nature so that all desire to sin willfully is gone. 1 John 3:8-9
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Taken
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I will not look up verses or read them for you.
I will give you brief references.
Angels great power…
2 Pet 2:11
Freewill…
Joshua 24:15
Division…
Luke 12:51
Separation…
Eph 2:12
All men that live shall die…
Gen 9:5
World without end…
Eph 3:21
On Earth as it is in Heaven…
Matt 6:10
All things were Created and Made BY God For Gods own pleasure.
Angels were Created and Made WITH Him, WITH His Truth, that THEY should Love Him and Serve Him, ACCORDING TO “HIS WILL”.
Mankind was Created and Made WITHOUT Him, WITHOUT His Truth, that THEY should LEARN His Truth, Freely CHOOSE His Truth, Freely by their own heartful word Vow in Declared Commission to His Truth, ACCORDING TO “HIS WILL”.
Angels exercise their FREEWILL, to REMAIN WITH God or Reject God and BE WITHOUT God.
Mankind exercises their FREEWILL, to Hear, Learn Gods TRUTH, Freely Choose to BELIEVE Gods Truth, (or NOT), Freely Choose to HEARTFULY DECLARE their BELIEF (or NOT).
Angels ARE NOT FORCED to REMAIN “WITH” God.
Mankind IS NOT FORCED to CHOOSE to BE “WITH” God.
Precisely and Expressly Spiritual FREEWILL IS Angels and Mankind Ability TO CHOOSE between THIS (WITH God) and THAT (WITHOUT God).
Freewill extends to Angels and Mankind Ability TO MAKE daily CHOICES (between this and that) regarding relationships, foods to eat, places to live, associations to join, works to do, interests to engage in, clothes to wear, naming offspring, on and on….even to post on this forum as you have freely chosen to do.
Glory to God,
Taken
Taken
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No it is NOT a false claim that God Answers prayers.
Asking God is ONE thing…period.
Changing Gods INTENT to a mans CAVEAT is another thing.
God answers prayers ACCORDING TO what and when it is BEST for a man to RECEIVE His Answer…..
NOT ACCORDING to a CAVEAT a man DEMANDS. (As you have proposed demanding an answer in 6 months.)
I ask God to reveal things to me….THEN WAIT for His Answer. I TRUST the ALL-Knowing God SHALL reveal His Answer at the precise TIMING it is most beneficial For me to Know the Answer. It may be momentary, a week, a month, a year….NO MATTER, I TRUST God Himself KNOWS the precise TIMING His Answer shall highly benefit me.
All things are in harmony that Gods WILL Be done. While many believing men are PRAYING to God for Death and Destruction of their Enemies and some believing men are PRAYING to God for Life and Reconciliation of their enemies….ALL will have their prayers ANSWERED, according to the Timing of Gods WILL.
We have a SECT of men whose primary FOCUS is KILLING men (by ANY and ALL means conceivable) to DOWNSIZE the world population.
We have a World WIDE Division of men who support KILLING of men (Downsizing the world’s population by umpteen conceivable means)… (and considering comedy of the errors, the wide range of “supporters” are utterly “ignorant” that they themselves ARE ON the elimination “hit list”.
We have world wide a “small” divided group who supports “forgiveness, Life, Reconciliation unto God” …. And there STANDS the DIVISION, Turmoil, Chaos, Tribulations Among and Between men, lying, cheating, stealing, Trespassing one man Against the Other.
Glory to God,
Taken
What world are you living in. I am prone to sin.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were all written under the Old Covenant of Law and religion.
Paul's epistles were written under the New Covenant.
More than likely you have rejected Paul's epistles, simply because Paul did not teach a holiness theology. Paul struggled with sin, Romans 7:7-25.
BlessedPeace
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I asked you to give biblical support for your claim God gave man free will, and the angels too.
I did not ask you to read them for me, as you implied in the first part of your post.
You have provided no such passages.
Behold
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Actually Temptation is very close to sinning., as you are tempted to sin before you do it.
There is no sin, unless there is a temptation to do it, and the person proceeds.
They proceed in their head to keep on visualizing until they are consumed with the fantasy.
Or they literally take their body and commit the deed.
But the temptation starts.....the process, that leads to sin.
Also, its because the Law does not define the born again as a sinner, or our deeds as sin, once we are "under Grace" is one of the wonders of being born again.
Do you remember that Paul once made a male witch, blind.......for a while?
So, that is very interesting, as that is not "Love thy neighbor" or " do good to those who despitefully use you".
Christianity is far far far from what most people have been led to believe.
Look at this..
"turn them over to Satan for the destruction of their flesh".
Ananias and Sapphira dropped dead, basically in the Church building. They were killed by an unseen hand.
So, as i said... The REAL Christianity, is not what most think it means...Its a serious situation, and it has more parts then just the starting gate and some doctrinal nonsense that most people spend their lives chasing into the dark.
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Rockerduck
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James 1:12 - Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.
Rockerduck
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James 1:13 -And remember, when you are being tempted, do not say, “God is tempting me.” God is never tempted to do wrong, and he never tempts anyone else.
1 Thessalonians 3:5
You see, it is Satan who is tempting you.
