What Makes Ex-Christians Think They Once Were Christians?

[Behold]

I do not believe that God has the power to save you, but then has not the power to keep you

What saved us, keeps us saved.

A.) Sin is gone, righteousness is imputed.

Eternal Life is not Temporary.

 

[Jim B]

As you can see by the responses , as i seen on mine .
WE got us a SOLIDER of the new global social gospel religion amongst us .
Just a friendly reminder .

You keep babbling on and on and on about "the new global social gospel religion' without ever defining it. What exactly are you referring to? (And expect a reply from me!)

 

[Nancy]

Who is we? Many of us have stayed true to our beliefs for as long as we have been Christians.

It should be obvious that the "we" are those who truly love the Lord, obey Him. It's all about false unity as, would you want to be united with someone who CALLS themselves a Christian yet lives in opposition to God's commands?

We are all, on here entitled to our own opinion but, should be careful to not call it a solid truth without backing it up with clear scripture. If they cannot, then it is ONLY opinion...IMO!...haha

 

[amigo de christo]

You keep babbling on and on and on about "the new global social gospel religion' without ever defining it. What exactly are you referring to? (And expect a reply from me!)

I have told you over and over again , but you have not heard . Now if i say it again will you listen .
THIS new global religon has long been introduced under the guise of the social gospel .
It is and it will lead to the unification of all the worlds religoins . THE TRUE GOSPEL will be and is already
being seen more and more as offensive
as more and more are buying into THE LIE . the lie that may speak about DOING some good works
but the LIE which says , the muslims , hindus , and other religoins serve the SAME GOD WE DO .
You do realize that the jesus , and do understand why i wont captilize that jesus , the muslims preach
AINT JESUS . THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE HIM as THE CHRIST , THEY DONT EVEN SAY HE IS THE SON OF GOD
THEY do NOT KNOW GOD .
SO understand that . Nor does any other religoin , nor does an atheist serve GOD .
YOU SEE what the global religoin has been doing
is trying to suplant and idea that if folks have this love and do good works THEN THEY KNOW GOD
And it dont matter if they BELEIVE JESUS is the CHRIST or not .
FALSE IT TRULY IS and it wont save a soul , it will damn all who believed it and partook in its lie
YOU do realize when i was in boyscouts
I DID A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD . I was taught and instructed to care for others
to help others . TO take care of the elderly and their needs .
To love others .
YET I WAS LOST . You see , just cause folks can do some good works
DONT MEAN THEY KNOW GOD or FOLLOW HIM .
CAUSE though i sure did good works . MANY ELDERLY praised me for my good deeds .
To many i was a saint for all that that little boy did in scouts .
BUT I WAS EVIL AS HELL my friend . I LOVED MY SIN . I DID NOT FOLLOW CHRIST
AND I SURE AS HECK DID NOT KNOW GOD .
SO what on earth makes folks want to ALL OF A SUDDEN believe
JUST cause folks can do some good to others , MEANS THEY AUTOMATICALLY FOLLOW GOD .
I SURE as HECK DIDNT . I LOVED MY SIN JIM . I LOVED MY SIN JIM. I WAS LOST , an agent of satan
WHO could at times do good to the poor and eldery . THE SOCIAL GOSPEL IS A LIE JIM .
ITS a lie . sure it DOES PREACH some truths . JUST NOT THE TRUTH .
SURE it says do good to others and etc . BUT THEY SURE DO ACCEPT SIN JIM
it accepts SIN JIM . AND IT ACCEPTS other paths , other religoins as KNOWING GOD JIM . A LIE FROM HADES .

 

[amigo de christo]

Who is we? Many of us have stayed true to our beliefs for as long as we have been Christians.

On the fact that you have stayed true to your beliefs I HAVE NO DOUBT .
But the question now is , ARE THEY BIBLCAL or are they what the social gospel and the flesh says IS TRUE .
For that answer . I remind you . Go and learn ALL THAT JESUS DID and ALL THAT HE DID SAY .
Examine what HE said to those who REJECTED HIM , WHO BELIEVED NOT that HE was the CHRIST the MESSIAH
GO and examine in acts how peter preached , paul preached and HOW they reacted to those who refused
to accept CHRIST JESUS . THEN
go and learn and read well EVERY SINGEL LETTER of the apostels left to us IN the bible .
SEE HOW THEY reacted to SIN within the church . SEE AND LEARN . YOU DO THAT
and you will soon see the social all inclusive gospel is A LIE and it wont be saving ANYONE .

 

[amigo de christo]

IF we , if anyone wants to know TRUTH .
IF anyone wants to know whether or not what they have been believing IS TRUTH .
I SUGGEST we take a NOSE DIVE INTO the BIBLE . Read and learn and love all things written .

 

[Jim B]

I have told you over and over again , but you have not heard . Now if i say it again will you listen .
THIS new global religon has long been introduced under the guise of the social gospel .
It is and it will lead to the unification of all the worlds religoins . THE TRUE GOSPEL will be and is already
being seen more and more as offensive
as more and more are buying into THE LIE . the lie that may speak about DOING some good works
but the LIE which says , the muslims , hindus , and other religoins serve the SAME GOD WE DO .
You do realize that the jesus , and do understand why i wont captilize that jesus , the muslims preach
AINT JESUS . THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE HIM as THE CHRIST , THEY DONT EVEN SAY HE IS THE SON OF GOD
THEY do NOT KNOW GOD .
SO understand that . Nor does any other religoin , nor does an atheist serve GOD .
YOU SEE what the global religoin has been doing
is trying to suplant and idea that if folks have this love and do good works THEN THEY KNOW GOD
And it dont matter if they BELEIVE JESUS is the CHRIST or not .
FALSE IT TRULY IS and it wont save a soul , it will damn all who believed it and partook in its lie
YOU do realize when i was in boyscouts
I DID A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD . I was taught and instructed to care for others
to help others . TO take care of the elderly and their needs .
To love others .
YET I WAS LOST . You see , just cause folks can do some good works
DONT MEAN THEY KNOW GOD or FOLLOW HIM .
CAUSE though i sure did good works . MANY ELDERLY praised me for my good deeds .
To many i was a saint for all that that little boy did in scouts .
BUT I WAS EVIL AS HELL my friend . I LOVED MY SIN . I DID NOT FOLLOW CHRIST
AND I SURE AS HECK DID NOT KNOW GOD .
SO what on earth makes folks want to ALL OF A SUDDEN believe
JUST cause folks can do some good to others , MEANS THEY AUTOMATICALLY FOLLOW GOD .
I SURE as HECK DIDNT . I LOVED MY SIN JIM . I LOVED MY SIN JIM. I WAS LOST , an agent of satan
WHO could at times do good to the poor and eldery . THE SOCIAL GOSPEL IS A LIE JIM .
ITS a lie . sure it DOES PREACH some truths . JUST NOT THE TRUTH .
SURE it says do good to others and etc . BUT THEY SURE DO ACCEPT SIN JIM
it accepts SIN JIM . AND IT ACCEPTS other paths , other religoins as KNOWING GOD JIM . A LIE FROM HADES .

a) You wrote "THIS new global religon has long been introduced under the guise of the social gospel . It is and it will lead to the unification of all the worlds religoins" I have no idea what a religon or religoin is.
b) You wrote that you are leaving for a month. Are you lying?

 

[Jim B]

On the fact that you have stayed true to your beliefs I HAVE NO DOUBT .
But the question now is , ARE THEY BIBLCAL or are they what the social gospel and the flesh says IS TRUE .
For that answer . I remind you . Go and learn ALL THAT JESUS DID and ALL THAT HE DID SAY .
Examine what HE said to those who REJECTED HIM , WHO BELIEVED NOT that HE was the CHRIST the MESSIAH
GO and examine in acts how peter preached , paul preached and HOW they reacted to those who refused
to accept CHRIST JESUS . THEN
go and learn and read well EVERY SINGEL LETTER of the apostels left to us IN the bible .
SEE HOW THEY reacted to SIN within the church . SEE AND LEARN . YOU DO THAT
and you will soon see the social all inclusive gospel is A LIE and it wont be saving ANYONE .

You wrote "On the fact that you have stayed true to your beliefs I HAVE NO DOUBT . But the question now is , ARE THEY BIBLCAL". The answer is a definite "yes".

As usual, you are ranting about "the social gospel", yet when asked, you won't define it.

Again, you said you are leaving for a month? Are you lying?

 

[Jim B]

IF we , if anyone wants to know TRUTH .
IF anyone wants to know whether or not what they have been believing IS TRUTH .
I SUGGEST we take a NOSE DIVE INTO the BIBLE . Read and learn and love all things written .

Why don't you follow your own advice?

Are you leaving for a month or not???

 

[amigo de christo]

a) You wrote "THIS new global religon has long been introduced under the guise of the social gospel . It is and it will lead to the unification of all the worlds religoins" I have no idea what a religon or religoin is.
b) You wrote that you are leaving for a month. Are you lying?

Jim . before i , or we proceed any farther . I need to know if you will agree to the three hours a day , ITS ONLY FOR ONE LITTLE MONTH
Jim . OR all we gonna do is argue , argue and argue .
IF you truly want to know TRUTH . THEN let this be done my friend . JESUS went to the cross and suffered like all get out
for the peoples . WE can at least spend three hours a day learning ABOUT HE WHO DID SUCH GOOD .
LETS LEARN what HE had to say ON ALL MATTERS . LETS learn what the apostels had to write about on ALL things .
THREE little hours a day . SO . what says you . NOW if we do this , WE DO THIS .
WE lie not one to the other . LETS SPEND THREE hours a day in the new test
and let us LEARN about the ONE WHO PAID THE PRICE OF SINS . AND ALL HE HAD TO SAY
and all the apostels had to say . Just a little month jim . Such a little thing to do .
AND you would be amazed at how much JOY it is to read it jim . You might pick it up
and never be able to put it back down again . LET US LEARN JIM . Let us learn .

 

[amigo de christo]

Why don't you follow your own advice?

Are you leaving for a month or not???

cause i never said i was gonna leave . I dont have to . I have by grace ALWAYS LOVED reading that bible daily
and for hours daily . What is a few extra minutes to me .
SO , lets do this jim .

 

[Jim B]

Jim . before i , or we proceed any farther . I need to know if you will agree to the three hours a day , ITS ONLY FOR ONE LITTLE MONTH
Jim . OR all we gonna do is argue , argue and argue .
IF you truly want to know TRUTH . THEN let this be done my friend . JESUS went to the cross and suffered like all get out
for the peoples . WE can at least spend three hours a day learning ABOUT HE WHO DID SUCH GOOD .
LETS LEARN what HE had to say ON ALL MATTERS . LETS learn what the apostels had to write about on ALL things .
THREE little hours a day . SO . what says you . NOW if we do this , WE DO THIS .
WE lie not one to the other . LETS SPEND THREE hours a day in the new test
and let us LEARN about the ONE WHO PAID THE PRICE OF SINS . AND ALL HE HAD TO SAY
and all the apostels had to say . Just a little month jim . Such a little thing to do .
AND you would be amazed at how much JOY it is to read it jim . You might pick it up
and never be able to put it back down again . LET US LEARN JIM . Let us learn .

Again, I read the Bible -- both testaments -- every day.

And stop writing pompous garbage like this: "you would be amazed at how much JOY it is to read it jim . You might pick it up and never be able to put it back down again ."

 

[Rockerduck]

Matthew 24:10-13.
At that time many will turn "away from the faith," and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and "deceive" many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, "but he who stands firm to the end will be saved".

Your bible is flawed
Jesus is not talking about Christians. Look at all many that are offended now and are filled with hate against Christians.
Jesus never talked about the Church age and the age of Grace. He appointed the apostle Paul to do that.

Matthew 24:10-13 -KJV -
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

 

[liafailrock]

I have read a lot on various forums about the numerology of the Bible. 99.99999% is total nonsense, such as finding 1611 -- the year the first KJV was published -- from two disparate verses, thus proving it is God's true translated word.

There is a connection between Hebrew words and numbers, but that is rarely the topic.

Not sure what you mean that the Hebrew words and numbers are rarely the topic. Whenever one talks about gematria that is exactly the topic.This person was making the connection between Hebrew words and their numerical values. I do the same, not the least of which was to find a connection to the significance of the number 153 beyond the mathematical curiosities such as 153=1+2+3+4...17

 

[Berserk]

Nick, a chemist was the finest Christian I ever encountered in my first 21 years. After every Sunday evening service, Nick was weeping for the lost in our prayer room. I once stumbled onto his travailing prayer before our high school Sunday school class which he taught. He was confessing his inadequacy and pleading with God to anoint his teaching. Nick was always volunteering for thankless tasks like installing new toilets at our youth camp.

But then he got mercury poisoning and no one visited him during his hospital stay. He became bitter and disillusioned and lost his faith. I'm told Nick committed suicide.

The OSAS heresy is easy enough to refute from Scripture. But what bothers me even more is that OSASers are blind to realities of the spiritual struggles and sometimes lost battles of some of our greatest saints. Satan often targets our most devout because of the powerful way the Lord uses them. I have noted with sadness that some of the greatest and most anointed preachers I know have succumbed to some sort of sexual trangresssion. Spiritual warfare is very real and OSASers unwittingly trivialize it with a false sense of security.

 

[Behold]

But then he got mercury poisoning and no one visited him during his hospital stay. He became bitter and disillusioned and lost his faith. I'm told Nick committed suicide.

People who dont understand The Cross of Christ alway talk about sin and works and water.

@Berserk , If the Nick you once knew.....was born again, it was before he became an expert Toilet Installer, or ever prayed for "anointed teaching skills".

He, actually came to God as a lifelong sinner, having not done even one good work, and God said... "Nick, i will take you forever, because you just gave me your faith in Christ'.

"Faith is counted as righteousness"
"Justification by faith" without works, or deeds of the Law.

Where is Nick, if he was born again?
Still born again.
You can't stop being born again, but you can develop attitude issues, cult mentality, lose your faith... and other mental-mind-emotions, related issues.

 

[Rockerduck]

The OSAS heresy is easy enough to refute from Scripture

Go ahead and refute it. One scripture at a time, with the KJ bible. Put the scripture in context, and whom the audience is.

 

[Triumph1300]

Go ahead and refute it. One scripture at a time, with the KJ bible. Put the scripture in context, and whom the audience is.

Would be useless and a waste of time.
100.000+ posts on the internet and no end to it.
Been there, done that.
Not getting into it again. :cool:

 

[Behold]

Would be useless and a waste of time.
100.000+ posts on the internet and no end to it.
Been there, done that.
Not getting into it again. :cool:

Just remember that What saved you, keeps you saved.
IF = you are born again, and not just water baptized and religious.

So......Who is that.... that is SALVATION.

A.) The finished work of Jesus on the Cross. (He said it's finished).(From the Cross).
If that is applied to you by God, then, what He has done for you, The Blood Atonement.. will last for as long as God lives.

Philippians 1:6

 

[Stumpmaster]

Being born of your mother is not a metaphor.

Being born of the Spirit of God, is not a metaphor.

Birth is not a metaphor.

You can never be un-birthed.

You have to think, Stumpmaster.

Many scholars categorise the term "born again" as a metaphor because it carries the meaning across by referencing the natural process to describe the spiritual one.

Quote from Cambridge Dictionary: METAPHORICALLY

• metaphorically

adverb

relating to or using metaphors (= expressions that describe a person or object by referring to something that is considered to have similar characteristics):

• The phrase "born again" is used metaphorically to mean that someone has accepted Jesus as God and become a Christian.