What is the sin of unbelief?

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While believers, receive God with us, (Yeshua/Jesus), spiritually in our hearts and minds. Is there a sin of unbelief that can come about? While Jesus is the way to the Father and because of his finished work comes to people spiritually. It's God/Yahavah who looks upon the heart and those who do look to God, he writes on those who seek him on their conscience; he already has made creations which are pieces of evidence of himself that declare his handiwork (Psalms 19:1) and his glory. There are people out in the world who seek Yahavah, in spirit even without knowing the Lord Jesus' name, which is not even Jesus, but technically Yeshua. Either way, it goes. Those people out there in the wild can have access to God and God writes on their hearts and minds spiritually they are spoken to by and through the conscious. When the guy goes to steal a pig, but all of a sudden feels bad for what they are doing, perhaps they return the pig instead of taking it. What happens when it comes down to a person who rejects that God exists, even in the conscious? Would it be considered the sin of unbelief? However, I do not believe people go to hell anymore due to hell being done away with. There is a heavenly realm, mentioned in Revelation 21 - 22, which has those who are resurrected who are on the outside of the gates of the Heavenly Jerusalem.

The Bible states that all people are given light amidst the darkness, having the ability to reason, think, and choose. Making us individually responsible for what we may do with our own lives. Good or bad. Believing or not believing. The further one goes away from the light, the more that darkness comes in corroding the heart. Just like Pharaoh. Who continued to not allow Moses' people go, and his heart continued to become hardened even while Yahavah, took out crops, and even the pharaoh firstborn. Is there a sin, in unbelief? Becoming hard of heart, falling away from the light, while glorifying the darkness?

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.​

~~ People loved darkness over the light because their deeds were evil. They are not rejoicing anything that is life giving that comes from God, they hate the light. The further a person goes down this hole of darkness, the more a person can even turn from believing, to unbelieving... While most people say no it's not true, even Jesus speaks concerning the "parable of the sower." Of people dying of what is a life-giving virtue looking to the Lord God, for more of what the world offers, loving the darkness, and hating light.

Here are a few other scriptures to think about:

John 16: 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me;​
Romans 11:20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble.​
2 Thessalonians 2:12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.​
Hebrews 3:12 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.​
Hebrews 4:11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.​


While people may love darkness, and even fall into the sin of unbelief; as light-bringers of the LORD GOD, perhaps if we can share some of the light with them, even though they may hate it: they may once again turn from that darkness, and desire the light more. Though it may be challenging for them, all we can do is pray and hope, staying faithful to Yahavah, and abiding in the Lord Yeshua, to shine a light into the darkness, and help those who have hardened hearts. Because it happens to people even who were believers at one time, they can become hardened of heart.
 

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While believers, receive God with us, (Yeshua/Jesus), spiritually in our hearts and minds. Is there a sin of unbelief that can come about? While Jesus is the way to the Father and because of his finished work comes to people spiritually. It's God/Yahavah who looks upon the heart and those who do look to God, he writes on those who seek him on their conscience; he already has made creations which are pieces of evidence of himself that declare his handiwork (Psalms 19:1) and his glory. There are people out in the world who seek Yahavah, in spirit even without knowing the Lord Jesus' name, which is not even Jesus, but technically Yeshua. Either way, it goes. Those people out there in the wild can have access to God and God writes on their hearts and minds spiritually they are spoken to by and through the conscious. When the guy goes to steal a pig, but all of a sudden feels bad for what they are doing, perhaps they return the pig instead of taking it. What happens when it comes down to a person who rejects that God exists, even in the conscious? Would it be considered the sin of unbelief? However, I do not believe people go to hell anymore due to hell being done away with. There is a heavenly realm, mentioned in Revelation 21 - 22, which has those who are resurrected who are on the outside of the gates of the Heavenly Jerusalem.

The Bible states that all people are given light amidst the darkness, having the ability to reason, think, and choose. Making us individually responsible for what we may do with our own lives. Good or bad. Believing or not believing. The further one goes away from the light, the more that darkness comes in corroding the heart. Just like Pharaoh. Who continued to not allow Moses' people go, and his heart continued to become hardened even while Yahavah, took out crops, and even the pharaoh firstborn. Is there a sin, in unbelief? Becoming hard of heart, falling away from the light, while glorifying the darkness?

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.​

~~ People loved darkness over the light because their deeds were evil. They are not rejoicing anything that is life giving that comes from God, they hate the light. The further a person goes down this hole of darkness, the more a person can even turn from believing, to unbelieving... While most people say no it's not true, even Jesus speaks concerning the "parable of the sower." Of people dying of what is a life-giving virtue looking to the Lord God, for more of what the world offers, loving the darkness, and hating light.

Here are a few other scriptures to think about:

John 16: 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me;​
Romans 11:20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble.​
2 Thessalonians 2:12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.​
Hebrews 3:12 See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God.​
Hebrews 4:11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.​


While people may love darkness, and even fall into the sin of unbelief; as light-bringers of the LORD GOD, perhaps if we can share some of the light with them, even though they may hate it: they may once again turn from that darkness, and desire the light more. Though it may be challenging for them, all we can do is pray and hope, staying faithful to Yahavah, and abiding in the Lord Yeshua, to shine a light into the darkness, and help those who have hardened hearts. Because it happens to people even who were believers at one time, they can become hardened of heart.
It is to believe that God is not as kind as he is. It is to use this as a pretext to judge others negatively because it is assumed God does so also.
 

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Hey Qt,

I thought it was an interesting study. I need to make it a daily routine to study more often. :)
 

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Interesting read, and things to consider. There are people out there in the world who think it’s so easy to enter into the kingdom of heaven. As Jesus the way is strait. Which is difficult and winding. It’s not just about saying a prayer one time, it’s about living a life for God. And in this life, people especially those who have been maligned by religious manipulations and end up falling away turn towards other things to worship and their priorities becomes cumbersome and sometimes they fall away from God by turning away from the light; sometimes they go to worshiping the things concerning the flesh, or nature, and do not any longer seek for that which is life giving. The one whom gives spiritual life, and liberty to make the choice to worship in spirit and in truth, understanding that their sins have been taken care of, and now it is up for them to decide to either eat from the tree of life, instead of just the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
 

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There are people out in the world who seek Yahavah, in spirit even without knowing the Lord Jesus' name, which is not even Jesus, but technically Yeshua. Either way, it goes. Those people out there in the wild can have access to God and God writes on their hearts and minds spiritually they are spoken to by and through the conscious. When the guy goes to steal a pig, but all of a sudden feels bad for what they are doing, perhaps they return the pig instead of taking it. What happens when it comes down to a person who rejects that God exists, even in the conscious? Would it be considered the sin of unbelief? However, I do not believe people go to hell anymore due to hell being done away with. There is a heavenly realm, mentioned in Revelation 21 - 22, which has those who are resurrected who are on the outside of the gates of the Heavenly Jerusalem.
Sorry, but no one can be saved without trusting in the death and resurrection of Jesus, or however in their language HIS name is pronounced.

Without knowing Jesus and trusting in His death and resurrection- one is lost no matter how "religious" they appear.
 
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Hello @Ronald Nolette,

Oh no. Are you suggesting that Yahavah is restricted in His ability to send His spirit to those who seek Him in faith, even if they do not know the Lord Jesus? What about those who do not have access to the Bible perhaps? I believe those who do seek him out, even without knowing the Lord Jesus in the afterlife, they will learn whom it was that saved them. Maybe perhaps that is going to far in your estimation though, @Ronald Nolette.
 
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Hello @Ronald Nolette,

Oh no. Are you suggesting that Yahavah is restricted in His ability to send His spirit to those who seek Him in faith, even if they do not know the Lord Jesus? What about those who do not have access to the Bible perhaps? I believe those who do seek him out, even without knowing the Lord Jesus in the afterlife, they will learn whom it was that saved them. Maybe perhaps that is going to far in your estimation though, @Ronald Nolette.
yahweh restricts HImself only where he said He would.

There is no salvation apart from faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus for sins. There is no plan B of salvation. The bible is absol;utely, explicitly and completely clear on this.

The sad reality is that billions of people have lived and died over the centuries since the church was born, and have never heard the name Jesus or what He did for them. They lived and died and never had a chance for salvation.

God knows what He is about. If people could get saved apart from the gospel- we are fools to send missionaries to them, preach the gospel and make them responsible to the gospel instead of whatever plan b you are thinking of.
 
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Hello @Ronald Nolette,

You’re stating that God is unable to reach the hearts and minds of people by his spirit. I don’t believe that is quite true.
 

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Hello @Ronald Nolette,

You’re stating that God is unable to reach the hearts and minds of people by his spirit. I don’t believe that is quite true.
Well show me in Sripture where the Holy Spirit is an evangelist to the unreached then! Show me where the Holy ghost will go to unreached peoples and speak the gospel.

But as SCripture does say:

Romans 10:

8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
 
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Hello @Ronald Nolette,

There is a verse in the Bible, specifically in the Psalms, that speaks about how God's creation declares his existence and glory (Psalms 19:1). I think this encapsulates my belief that God communicates with people about himself through these concepts. I have previously read the verses you shared with me, and I feel they do not pertain to individuals who have not yet encountered the Gospel. I believe that the Gospel has already been spread throughout the world, so while some may engage in those activities, which is wonderful, there are others who can simply recognize, "There is something greater than myself," and choose to prioritize God. As Hebrews 11:6 mentions, it is only through faith that one can please God. However, you may interpret it differently, and that is completely acceptable to me.
 

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Hello @Ronald Nolette,

There is a verse in the Bible, specifically in the Psalms, that speaks about how God's creation declares his existence and glory (Psalms 19:1). I think this encapsulates my belief that God communicates with people about himself through these concepts. I have previously read the verses you shared with me, and I feel they do not pertain to individuals who have not yet encountered the Gospel. I believe that the Gospel has already been spread throughout the world, so while some may engage in those activities, which is wonderful, there are others who can simply recognize, "There is something greater than myself," and choose to prioritize God. As Hebrews 11:6 mentions, it is only through faith that one can please God. However, you may interpret it differently, and that is completely acceptable to me.
So all the christians organizations that send missionaries to unreached nations are deceived according to you.

There are over 3.5 billion people who never heard the name Jesus nor ever heard the gospel once.

Yes heaven declares the glory of God and the earth proclaims HIs handiwork, but it does nothing to tell people they are lost due to sin, and need to trust in the death and resurrection of Jesus for their sin in order to be saved. Jesus entrusted that mission to the church and the church alone.

There is nothing in gods Word that says God has a plan B.
 
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Hello @Ronald Nolette

If you assume so. By all means sir. There are also biblical verses which concur with people having God writing on the conscious of others. Therefore; while they may not know who saved them from their sins, and they themselves choose to look to God; I believe Yahavah can write on the on the hearts and minds of individuals. It’s not some far fetched idea that is held down by religious practice.
 

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Hello @Ronald Nolette

If you assume so. By all means sir. There are also biblical verses which concur with people having God writing on the conscious of others. Therefore; while they may not know who saved them from their sins, and they themselves choose to look to God; I believe Yahavah can write on the on the hearts and minds of individuals. It’s not some far fetched idea that is held down by religious practice.
YOu are doing nothing but spouting personal opinion. Nature shows the power of God but does not tell us who He is! Nor does it express the name Jesus! No ONE, I repeat no one can be saved apart from the name Jesus according to Gods INspired word.

Romans 10:9-15

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9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

If you believe god has a plan B for those who haven't heard the name Jesus nor know of His death and resurrection, do not give opinion, but the Word of god.
 
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Hello @Ronald Nolette,

It’s seems that in your mind there is no one able to find out Jesus in the afterlife was the one whom saved them. Quoting the Bible doesn’t stop God being able to save people who simply don’t know Yeshua. And be able to show him, in the afterlife as the one whom helped them by the spirit of Christ. I think it’s just religious practice which is showcased here. Limiting the power of God, however that is just my opinion, sir.
 

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Is there a sin of unbelief that can come about?

Doesn't it seem obvious that until a person Trusts in Christ, they are in "unbelief"?

What is a Christian? = a BELIEVER in Jesus.

What is a Hell Bound Sinner.... ?

= John 3:36

A.) An UN-believer, never born again.

If you die as an unbeliever, never born again, you have committed the unpardonable sin.. .and that means the person died "in their sin"... "unforgiven".. and that can't be FORGIVEN beyond the grave...., as this one has rejected eternally rejected CHRIST who IS God's only offer of His Forgiveness as : The Cross of Christ.
 

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Hello @Behold,

I don’t believe hell applies anymore due to it being overcame and done away with by the Lord Jesus. People can believe in God and be moved by his spirit within in them. When it comes to people who obstinate against Yahavah, he has a place for them outside of the Kingdom. However it’s subjective to each person on how they believe. Many people use the Bible as a weapon, and that to me is not good.
 

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Hello @Behold,

I don’t believe hell applies anymore due to it being overcame and done away with by the Lord Jesus.

The Cross of Christ is what God offers to keep unbelievers out of Hell.

So, if Hell is "no longer there", then the Cross is no longer needed...(other than to get us into HEAVEN).
 
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Hello @Behold,

That is just a perspective you have. Jesus went to hell and overcame it, and in the revelation it states hell is done away with. Therefore it just seems to be a misunderstanding if anything.
 

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YOu are doing nothing but spouting personal opinion. Nature shows the power of God but does not tell us who He is! Nor does it express the name Jesus! No ONE, I repeat no one can be saved apart from the name Jesus according to Gods INspired word.

Romans 10:9-15​

King James Version​

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

If you believe god has a plan B for those who haven't heard the name Jesus nor know of His death and resurrection, do not give opinion, but the Word of god.
Is it any wonder folks are at each other's throats? The primary principles are just not understood.
There is no 'magic' in a literal name be it Jesus or any others. There are plenty of people with the literal name of Jesus in the world today....particularly in the hispanic world.

Name means character. This is how it is meant to be understood otherwise one assumes incantations in the literal name of Jesus has some sort of magical power. Wake up and be cognisant of the implications!
 

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Is it any wonder folks are at each other's throats? The primary principles are just not understood.
There is no 'magic' in a literal name be it Jesus or any others. There are plenty of people with the literal name of Jesus in the world today....particularly in the hispanic world.

Name means character. This is how it is meant to be understood otherwise one assumes incantations in the literal name of Jesus has some sort of magical power. Wake up and be cognisant of the implications!
Sorry but it is what the bible teaches.

12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Sorry but your opinions without showing that name doesn't mean name but character (and why did ti take so long for God to correct His original inspiration)??????????????)

Maybe to you they may mean magical incantations. Name means authority and though Spanish has Jesus for millions, the World knows the Jesus we speak of! And their is real authority in His name.
 
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