What is it with abortion-supporting "Christians"?

[Triumph1300]

I live in a home with a woman who killed my unborn grandchild. Should I kill her?
Next time, could you be fair and print the full quote?
Or are you one of those left-wing Canadians?

The above post is a strange way of being in agreement, Truman.

 

[BreadOfLife]

a lot of people aren't purposely pro-abortion, but they're open-minded to bad circumstances that can happen and there's the argument of abortion where there's less pain than the pain of the person who would like abortion so they're just open-minded and compassionate, they're not totally pro-abortion and the scripture that says I knew you when I formed you or something like that, God didn't destine a person who for example has gone through rape, it's Satan who destines that so it's arguable

WWWWWHHHHHHAAAAT???

Satan is NOT the Author of life. That title belongs to God and God ALONE.
For YOU to sit there and say that Satan creates babies that result from rape and NOT God is blasphemy.

It doesn't take a person with an "open mind" to sentence a baby to death.
It takes a person who tries to rationalize EVIL to do that.

 

[Pearl]

Oh. I'll pass but thanks anyway and God bless you.

It wasn't much anyway, not worth the effort of reading through the posts. :)

 

[Taken]

Media is very powerful.
It has the ability to change your mind. It has the ability to deceive you, into THINKING what it wants you to believe.
At some point, the "abortion industry" that harvests aborted baby parts for profit fine tuned the media to create the idea that "if its not born yet, its not a baby".
So, once the media sold that lie, the game was over.

God says that He knows you before you are born.
God says that when you are in your mother's womb, He knows you...
So, if you are not real yet, if you are not human yet, if you are not a person yet, then could God "Know you", yet?
If you have no Spirit in you yet, then could God "know you" in the womb?

I find it interesting that most legal systems recognize that if you purposely stop someone's heartbeat, they DIE, and you go to jail.
But if you stop a child's heartbeat when they are in the womb, you dont.

Agree, the media is "cunning".
Which is to say...like Satan, a dash of truth, to convince a lie is truth.

Unborn "developing earthly man-kind of things"...are precisely that..."UNBORN".

Calling those things...what you "EXPECT" them to be, is one thing. Knowing the "DIFFERENCE" of what a "born and unborn" thing is, another thing.

 

[Taken]

But we keep coming back to the FACT that God said it is YOU who doesn't have wisdom.

No, that is you talking.

 

[Taken]

Yet you STILL use the idiotic Abortionist argument that an unborn child is NOT human.

When you figure out what BORN means...
Come with your psychobabble.

John 3:
[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Agree, the media is "cunning".
Which is to say...like Satan, a dash of truth, to convince a lie is truth.

Unborn "developing earthly man-kind of things"...are precisely that..."UNBORN".

Calling those things...what you "EXPECT" them to be, is one thing. Knowing the "DIFFERENCE" of what a "born and unborn" thing is, another thing.

God states explicitly that He knows US before we are born:

Jeremiah 1:5
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

Psalm 139:16
Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

My question to YOU is - Is God talking about a lump of cells and tissue - or a human being with a soul?
Remember that Jeremiah was consecrated and appointed Prophet to the nations - BEFORE he was born.

 

[BreadOfLife]

When you figure out what BORN means...
Come with your psychobabble.

John 3:
[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[7] Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

And I see that in your abject ignorance of Scripture - you don't understand that John 3:5 is about REBIRTH in the Spirit - not natural birth.

Read John 1:29-34 and Acts 2:38 and get a clue . . .

John 1:32-34
Then John gave this testimony: “I saw the SPIRIT come down from heaven as a dove and remain on him. And I myself did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with WATER told me, ‘The man on whom you see the SPIRIT come down and remain is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ I have seen and I testify that this is God’s Chosen One.”

Acts 2:38
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be BAPTIZED every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the HOLY SPIRIT.

 

[Taken]

God states explicitly that He knows US BEFORE we are born:

My question to YOU is - Is God talking about a lump of cells and tissue - or a human being with a soul?

God IS ALL KNOWING.
God IS NOT constricted by TIME.

BORN, has a TIMEFRAME.
BORN, has a meaning.

 

[Taken]

And I see that in your abject ignorance of Scripture - you don't understand that John 3:5 is about REBIRTH in the Spirit - not natural birth.

LOL -
Ignorance is the reflection in your mirror.

John 3:5 -6
Is about BORN of flesh, "mans seed".
BORN of Spirit, "Gods Seed".

John 3:5
[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

 

[teamventure]

LOL -
Ignorance is the reflection in your mirror.

Um, I would say that ignorance is believing that a child in the womb isn't human.

 

[BreadOfLife]

God IS ALL KNOWING.
God IS NOT constricted by TIME.

BORN, has a TIMEFRAME.
BORN, has a meaning.

That DOESN'T address the question.
Whether or NOT God is bound by time is irrelevant because these verses are talking about the timespan of a HUMAN BEING - not God.

God knew ME before I was born.
He knew Jeremiah before Jeremiah was born.
He consecrated Jeremiah and appointed Jeremiah a prophet BEFORE Jeremiah was born.

Once again - how or why does God consecrate and appoint a NON-human - a lump of cells and tissue - as Prophet to the nations?

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL -
Ignorance is the reflection in your mirror.

John 3:5 -6
Is about BORN of flesh, "mans seed".
BORN of Spirit, "Gods Seed".

John 3:5
[5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

And as long as you keep repeating that nonsense - you will never understand John 3:5 - or the purpose of Baptism in Christ.

Good luck with that . . .

 

[April_Rose]

Um, I would say that ignorance is believing that a child in the womb isn't human.

Unless you earthlings are referring to me of course.

 

[teamventure]

Unless you earthlings are referring to me of course.

Haha. Good one. These boards need more humor.

 

[JazzyJeff15]

Unfortunately deception and hypocrisy have always been enemies of Christians. But i have mercy on those that get caught up in worldly thinking, if your not raised strong in the word its easy to get caught up in non Christian ideologies. Im not here to beat anyone with a hammer lol but i pray that God blesses everyone here with wisdom to see through to what the world is pitching to us

 

[Curtis]

Put your ideology to the test: video yourself destroying the egg of an endangered bird, then send that video to the authorities with your name and address, with a note saying you didn’t kill an endangered bird, because it was in the ONLY A THING stage when you destroyed it.

At the trial, when they file charges against you, be sure and stick with your IT WAS ONLY A THING, defense - see how that brilliant bit of reasoning holds up in court,

 

[Michael1985]

I am okay with abortion in cases of rape or where the life of the mother is in serious jeopardy. Otherwise, I think it's all too often just used to get out of being sexually irresponsible.

 

[kcnalp]

No, that is you talking.

I quoted YOU and I quoted God.

Taken said: "NO, I do NOT FEAR GOD."

God said: "Psalm 111:10 (NKJV) 10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;"

Wise up before it's too late!

 

[Berserk]

The hypocrisy of so-called "Christian" abortionists is not a "Catholic" problem.
I know PLENTY of Protestants who support abortion as well - and they are just as hypocritical.

I oppose abortion. But the very fact that this post is necessary illustrates the hatred many evangelicals here have for Catholics. They love to stereotype other faiths by the worst exemplars of those faiths, but are outraged when their denomination is subjected to such godless generalizations. IMO It is more likely that the best of the pro-choice Christians I've met are saved then evangelicals here here consign all pro-choice Christians to Hell.

btw, the Bible never explicitly condemns abortion, so the claim that it does is based on debated inference. I wager that few evangelicals here even know the earliest explicit Christian condemnation of abortion. And are evangelicals here honest enough to even seek out and analyze how a liberal Christian might justify abortion from Scripture?