What distinguishes a "Protestant?"

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Name the lies.

Go back and read them yourself. They were pointed out to you every time.

 

[Dave L]

Go back and read them yourself. They were pointed out to you every time.

This is not good enough. You need to prove you are not lying by presenting direct quotes with evidence they were lies.

 

[BreadOfLife]

^^^
A fine example of inability to divide the word of truth.

Then, enlighten me instead of dodging it.

 

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Are you affiliated with the UPC?

Gee Dave.........DID I EVER say I WAS? No!

the Answer is NO....

Do you FINALLY after umpteen PAGES GET IT?

STOP telling me about your UPC facination...

I DON'T CARE!!!
I AM NOT INTERESTED!!

 

[Dave L]

Gee Dave.........DID I EVER say I WAS? No!

the Answer is NO....

Do you FINALLY after umpteen PAGES GET IT?

STOP telling me about your UPC facination...

I DON'T CARE!!!
I AM NOT INTERESTED!!

But you agree with them on modalism.

 

[Taken]

Then, enlighten me instead of dodging it.

Go ask your holy father.
He can tell you what to believe it means.

Obviously you are unaware WE do not agree on the same Doctrines.....so what it means to me, will likely not be what you are supposed to believe.

 

[BreadOfLife]

“Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” (1 John 3:9) (KJV 1900)

Spoken like a true pharisee.

YOU keep pitting verses against each other because that is PRECISELY what Satan does. Her did it to Christ in the desert - and now he's doing it through YOU on this forum.

ALL Christians continue to stumble and struggle with sin and are oin constant need of God's grace . . .

Rom. 7:18-25
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

1 Tim. 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.


I suggest you HUMBLE yourself before the Lord instead of puffing yourself up in arrogance . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Go ask your holy father.
He can tell you what to believe it means.

Obviously you are unaware WE do not agree on the same Doctrines.....so what it means to me, will likely not be what you are supposed to believe.

In other words - you can't refute that passage.
Why didn't you just say so?

 

[Dave L]

Spoken like a true pharisee.

YOU keep pitting verses against each other because that is PRECISELY what Satan does. Her did it to Christ in the desert - and now he's doing it through YOU on this forum.

ALL Christians continue to stumble and struggle with sin and are oin constant need of God's grace . . .

Rom. 7:18-25
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

1 Tim. 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.


I suggest you HUMBLE yourself before the Lord instead of puffing yourself up in arrogance . . .

“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” (Hebrews 12:14) (KJV 1900) How do you live in sin and expect to see the Lord?

 

[BreadOfLife]

“Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:” (Hebrews 12:14) (KJV 1900) How do you live in sin and expect to see the Lord?

This is at the crux of ALL of your confusion.
You actually believe that a Christian who stumbles is a person who is"living in sin".

A person who openly LIVES in sin is a person who rejects God.
A person who strives to please God may stumble and STILL be His follower.

Paul admits this (Rom. 7:18-25, 1 Tim. 1:15).
John admits this (1 John 1:8).

YOU can't because of your arrogance . . .

 

[Dave L]

This is at the crux of ALL of your confusion.
You actually believe that a Christian who stumbles is a person who is"living in sin".

A person who openly LIVES in sin is a person who rejects God.
A person who strives to please God may stumble and STILL be His follower.

Paul admits this (Rom. 7:18-25, 1 Tim. 1:15).
John admits this (1 John 1:8).

YOU can't because of your arrogance . . .

I'm just trying to be good and you say I cannot be because you cannot be.

 

[Taken]

This is not good enough. You need to prove you are not lying by presenting direct quotes with evidence they were lies.

So? Don't care if that is not good enough for you.

You want to read and read and read the lies in your posts.... you go read them...umpteen times was more than enough for me.

 

[Dave L]

So? Don't care if that is not good enough for you.

You want to read and read and read the lies in your posts.... you go read them...umpteen times was more than enough for me.

Slandering me does not refute anything I've said so far.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I'm just trying to be good and you say I cannot be because you cannot be.

No - Jesus said that NOBODY is good but GOD (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19).
What makes YOU think that YOU are "good"?

 

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of your confusion.

Your confusion...you do not know how to know which scriptures apply to you and which ones do not.....

And through your own arrogance and ignorance desperately try to DICTATE which scriptures apply to another...

which makes your "supposed" educating of others via dictating to others what you have decided applies TO THEM...IS:
.... utterly laughable.

You actually believe that a Christian who stumbles is a person who is"living in sin".

And YOU actually believe a man WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD "IN" the man CAN SIN AGAINST GOD....

Again, utterly Laughable, to teach the POWER of God within a man is POWERLESS to keep a man Freed from SIN.

A person who openly LIVES in sin is a person who rejects God.

A person WITHOUT the POWER of God IN THEM, is not FREED From SIN, regardless of HOW THEY ARE "LIVING".

A person who strives to please God may stumble and STILL be His follower.

So? How does a person WITH Gods Power IN them, who "stumbles" all of a sudden HAVE THE POWER to SIN AGAINST GOD?

You teach and preach YOUR DOCTRINE...which makes the POWER OF GOD IN A MAN....subject to the power of the man.

You teach and preach YOUR DOCTRINE...that Gentiles, WITH the POWER OF GOD IN THEM...."ARE" subject to the LAWS OF SIN, given the Jews, in their Jewish Laws.

And then you attempt to DICTATE your "understanding" APPLIES to everyone "YOU" decide it applies to....

And then admittedly reveal, you havn't a clue how to divide the word of truth.

Different day...same 'old BOL nonsense teaching.

 

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No - Jesus said that NOBODY is good but GOD (Mark 10:18, Luke 18:19).
What makes YOU think that YOU are "good"?

Obviously you have not learned the many many scriptures that teach HOW a man BECOMES good. And why what was NOT GOOD, can BECOME GOOD.

Luke 23
[50] And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counseller; and he was a good man, and a just:

 

[Taken]

But you agree with them on modalism.

Really? You are going to DICTATE TO ME whom "I" agree with?

Put a sock in it...

 

[Taken]

In other words - you can't refute that passage.
Why didn't you just say so?

Well there was no need for me to say what isn't so.

Obviously another thing you do not comprehend is the difference between "refute" and "not bothering with explaining my Doctrine, from my Holy Father....when your Doctrine is from your holy father."

If the Doctrine of MY Holy Father is your interest....it is in Scripture....no need for me to read it to you......

You have show you are capable of reading....
It is comprehension you lack.

You want help with that....go find you a teacher willing to put up with your snarky arrogance...

I'm not interested.

 

[Taken]

Slandering me does not refute anything I've said so far.

Well Slander requires evidence.
What is your evidence I slandered you?
And what is your PROOF YOU spoke the truth, when YOU made claims FOR ME?

I'll wait...In the meantime what I said to you, remains the same.

You want to reveal the evidence and proof...
Go ahead. I have asked you to a number of times....and thus I expect once again you to fail to do so....so your comment meaning nothing to me.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Your confusion...you do not know how to know which scriptures apply to you and which ones do not.....
And through your own arrogance and ignorance desperately try to DICTATE which scriptures apply to another...

which makes your "supposed" educating of others via dictating to others what you have decided applies TO THEM...IS:
.... utterly laughable.

And YOU actually believe a man WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD "IN" the man CAN SIN AGAINST GOD....
Again, utterly Laughable, to teach the POWER of God within a man is POWERLESS to keep a man Freed from SIN.
A person WITHOUT the POWER of God IN THEM, is not FREED From SIN, regardless of HOW THEY ARE "LIVING".
So? How does a person WITH Gods Power IN them, who "stumbles" all of a sudden HAVE THE POWER to SIN AGAINST GOD?
You teach and preach YOUR DOCTRINE...which makes the POWER OF GOD IN A MAN....subject to the power of the man.

You teach and preach YOUR DOCTRINE...that Gentiles, WITH the POWER OF GOD IN THEM...."ARE" subject to the LAWS OF SIN, given the Jews, in their Jewish Laws.
And then you attempt to DICTATE your "understanding" APPLIES to everyone "YOU" decide it applies to....
And then admittedly reveal, you havn't a clue how to divide the word of truth.
Different day...same 'old BOL nonsense teaching.

Your confusion is caused by your immense arrogance and spiritual pride.
The apostles didn't possess this. they humbled themselves before God AND their readers and admitted their weakness.

Romans 7 is ALL about Paul's weakness in sin - but somehow, YOU have been able to achieve what even Paul wasn't able to.
Is that it??