Was Noah “saved by grace through faith”?

[Waiting on him]

What was Noah’s message, work or get in the boat?

 

[CNKW3]

Why couldn’t they have just got on the ark with Noah and his family?
Do you believe Noah was trying to recruit workers, or was he saying get on the boat.
You’ll be safe?

Maybe both. But that boat would not have held everybody. It was over 100 years and all we know is that only 8 souls heeded to the warning and did what God said.

 

[CNKW3]

What was Noah’s message, work or get in the boat?

I personally believe that the instructions given to Noah were given in the way they were because God knew that the present world would not listen and obey. The point is....Noah was saved by grace but not by grace alone. He was saved by grace through faith in that he was obedient to the directions given for salvation. Heb 11:7

 

[Waiting on him]

I personally believe that the instructions given to Noah were given in the way they were because God knew that the present world would not listen and obey. The point is....Noah was saved by grace but not by grace alone. He was saved by grace through faith in that he was obedient to the directions given for salvation. Heb 11:7

So how do you believe we save our (house) today?

 

[Waiting on him]

I have to believe that when Noah exited the ark there was a new heaven and a new earth (all things had been made new)
This is very interesting to me.

 

[Grailhunter]

I personally believe that the instructions given to Noah were given in the way they were because God knew that the present world would not listen and obey. The point is....Noah was saved by grace but not by grace alone. He was saved by grace through faith in that he was obedient to the directions given for salvation. Heb 11:7

It is good to have your family saved, but no spiritual salvation in Old Testament. Maybe Noah needed to send Christ a message, "No need to come as our savior! Don't need ya, we got it covered!" Noah only had one place to go, Shoal. Of course there is that prophet that said there were many mansion built for them in Heaven......Oh wait there was no prophet that told the Israelites that. Maybe if Noah sacrificed enough goats and lambs, then maybe God would take him to heaven. No wait that does not work either.

Maybe Abraham went to heaven?
Genesis 25:8 "Abraham breathed his last and died in a ripe old age, an old man and satisfied with life; and he was gathered to his people."
I guess Abraham was not good enough...he went to Shoal. How about Ishmael, did he go to heaven

Genesis 25:17 "These are the years of the life of Ishmael, one hundred and thirty-seven years; and he breathed his last and died, and was gathered to his people."

Oh, I guess not.....Maybe Noah was the Messiah....no need for Christ?

 

[Grailhunter]

Psalms 14:3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans 3:10-12
as it is written,
“There is none righteous, not even one;
There is none who understands,
There is none who seeks for God;
All have turned aside, together they have become useless;
There is none who does good,
There is not even one.”

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Where does it EVER say the HS worked within Noah?

God chose to work through Noah

What about Paul? Did he find grace in the eyes of the lord? Even while killing Christians? How is that?

Ephesians 3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

 

[farouk]

Ephesians 3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

Such a great Epistle, Ephesians! :)

 

[VictoryinJesus]

It is interesting to me that because Noah believed and built the boat, he condemned the world. (Heb. 11:7) I believe that is a powerful statement.

Yes...that is a powerful statement.

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Luke 9:55-56 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. [56] For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. ...

 

[Stranger]

Are they different? Everybody Noah preached to decided not to obey. It was only his family that obeyed and was saved physically from the flood. Those that did not obey both perished physically and spiritually in the flood because they did not do as God instructed. You cannot be saved eternally in disobedience to God.

Yes they are different. Noah was saved eternally already. He built the Ark as a result of his faith. Building the Ark did not determine if Noah was eternally saved.

God never instructed the world to build the Ark.

(Gen. 6:8) "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD,"
(Gen. 7:1) "...for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation."

You know why Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD? Because he needed it. He was a man of faith. And so God saw him as righteous. Imputation.

Stranger

 

[CNKW3]

So how do you believe we save our (house) today?

The same way. Salvation for Noah was “in the ark”. Salvation today is “in Christ”. 2 Tim 2:10
Noah had to have faith in God enough to do what he said. Today, God says that one must repent and be baptized for the remission of sins and that baptism places one “into Christ”. Rom 6:3,4; Gal 3:26,27
We are to have faith in God enough to do what he says. Most people don’t. Most people are just like in the days of Noah, they mock, ridicule and rail against anyone that would suggest that water has anything to do with your salvation. Which one are you?

 

[CNKW3]

God never instructed the world to build the Ark.

Stranger

No he didn’t but he did instruct the world to “believe and be baptized for salvation”. So are you going to mock and rail against this instruction are you going to believe and obey like the rest of the faithful?

 

[Waiting on him]

The same way. Salvation for Noah was “in the ark”. Salvation today is “in Christ”. 2 Tim 2:10
Noah had to have faith in God enough to do what he said. Today, God says that one must repent and be baptized for the remission of sins and that baptism places one “into Christ”. Rom 6:3,4; Gal 3:26,27
We are to have faith in God enough to do what he says. Most people don’t. Most people are just like in the days of Noah, they mock, ridicule and rail against anyone that would suggest that water has anything to do with your salvation. Which one are you?

I believe John baptized with water and Jesus baptizes with fire.

 

[CNKW3]

I believe John baptized with water and Jesus baptizes with fire.

The floods a comin

 

[Enoch111]

The floods a comin

No more floods a comin'. Only global and cosmic supernatural fire.

 

[Enoch111]

It is good to have your family saved, but no spiritual salvation in Old Testament. Maybe Noah needed to send Christ a message, "No need to come as our savior! Don't need ya, we got it covered!" Noah only had one place to go, Shoal. Of course there is that prophet that said there were many mansion built for them in Heaven......Oh wait there was no prophet that told the Israelites that. Maybe if Noah sacrificed enough goats and lambs, then maybe God would take him to heaven. No wait that does not work either.

Sounds like the ramblings of one who is thoroughly confused. Are you still hunting grails, Grailhunter? You should have a chat with king Arthur.

"In the time of King Arthur the quest for the Holy Grail was the highest spiritual pursuit for a knight."

 

[Grailhunter]

Sounds like the ramblings of one who is thoroughly confused. Are you still hunting grails, Grailhunter? You should have a chat with king Arthur.

"In the time of King Arthur the quest for the Holy Grail was the highest spiritual pursuit for a knight."

If you are going to talking junk about the OT Why not talk about Noah leasing the Queen Mary II, it would have given him a lot more room. Maybe the Apostles could have helped him. Have Christ fly in on a Boeing 747. Don't consider any kind of logic or reality...let your imagination loose!

 

[Stranger]

No he didn’t but he did instruct the world to “believe and be baptized for salvation”. So are you going to mock and rail against this instruction are you going to believe and obey like the rest of the faithful?

I mock and rail at your attempt to make Noah's building of the Ark the reason he was eternally saved. I gave you the Scripture for my reason to mock and rail. Which you ignore...of course.

And, you make remarks now, but give no Scripture. Why? Are you lazy? Or is it because there is none?

Stranger

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

This idea of....”saved by grace through faith” is probably the most misunderstood teaching in the NT.
The fact is.....all people from Adam to now are saved the exact same way, “by grace through faith.” This is not some Pauline doctrine that didn’t exist before Christ. When we look at Noah we will see that what I’m saying is true.
Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
.....Noah received grace from God. What did grace do? Did it save him right then and there? No. Grace did what grace always does, it instructs.
Titus 2:11,12 tells us that grace has appeared to ALL men TEACHING us.
What did grace do for Noah? It gave him the way of salvation through building a boat. What does grace do for us today? It gives us the way of salvation through the preaching of the gospel (believe, repent, confess, be baptized for remission of sins)

Genesis 6:22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.
......Noah was obedient to the instruction given. As ludicrous and crazy as it must have sounded, Noah did it. And, what does the Bible call this? FAITH!

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.
......So, God through grace provided the way and Noah by faith was obedient and therefore ultimately was “saved by grace through faith”! A person is NEVER “saved by grace through faith” through mental acceptance alone. NEVER! You can’t just lay on your bed, shed some tears, say a prayer, and walk out a child of God, accepted by him unto salvation. Why? Because grace NEVER instructed anybody to do that for salvation.

Show me where in the scriptures Adam was exercising faith and therefore saved by grace. I see nothing in the scriptures that show Adam or Eve exercising faith. They both were unfaithful, if Adam had been a man of faith he wouldn't have eaten the forbidden fruit, don't you think. Instead it seems to me that Adam cared more for something else than exercising faith in The True God Jehovah.