Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

[Ronald Nolette]

I already did. The preachers pushing the one also push the other. It is spiritual. It is not the same thing to go to a medical place of business for something we have the faith to and being bullied into an experiment. Obviously. We also now know there were cover ups, lies, conspiracy to silence, horrible side effects and death, and etc. Comparing that with going to a clinic for a cut is dishonest.

Now you are simply being a liar! I know of legions of preachers who tell peopole to get the shot if they feel teh need and oppose abortion. So no your blanket condemnation is sin.

The rest of this statement is the politics of the shot and not the shot.

Still waiting for you to show the connection between abortion and the shot- biblically and not based on your emotion because you may have seena few liberal preachers who support abortion and the shot.

And so...? You can trust popeye to feed you as well if you like. My opinion is that so many primary physicians went along with the con, that they should have to prove they did not to be trusted. To each his own.

Oh, and yes it is also fair game to quiz them and enquire if they are in any way associated with baby murder or gender assault.

I am glad I choose not to live in your paranoia.

If you wish for unbelievers to live as believers without giving them christ first- you are just acting like a pharisee.

? Most churches are apostate. The rest should be meeting secretly due to the danger of being shut down again in the next plandemic. Or at least they should have plans to go underground. How dare anyone condemn other believers for meeting or obeying according to their faith in houses or whatever. What self righteous sanctimonious holier than thou lukewarm baloney.

So you have gone to most churches in America? My you have been busy. I moved form new england to S. Carolina in November and in looking for a new church, I was able to rule out many simply because of their denominational affiliationa dn I went to three. All were bible believing and solid doctrinally (not perfect but solid) and I am now joing a church that I am convinced God led me to. They are out there. You just have to look so you can obey God.

Heb. 10:
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

As long as you remain unchurched you are in rebellion against God. I wish better for you.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Now why would I want to sit under a church teacher? I forgot more about the Bible than he would ever know. You have to remember I'm an expert in biblical concepts. Here look for yourself... www.carb-fat.com/spirit.html

So yo0u are a self proclaimed expert and decided that you have no need for Gods Word and to obey it. Okay then. You will find out how wrong you are!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I doubt you have been walking with the Lord for 49 years. It seems to me you don't even know who the Christ is.

Well as you are in rebellion and disobeying God and His Word, I gasve your opinion the 1/10th of a nanosecond time and moved on. You are simply living in arrogance, pride and deifying yourself. You don't know me or my life and you sin the sin of presumption in doubting my walk. then you make yourself an idol when you presume my relationship with my Savior.

If you do not recant and humble yourself before god- you will be crushed by Him to learn not to be so arrogant. I wll not respond anymore until I see you recant your lies and arrogance. As long as you hold these attitudes and live outside the body of Christ you are in grave sin.

Hebrews 10:23-25

King James Version

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23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Ephesians 4:11-16

King James Version

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11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

In you r arrogance you have placed yourself outside of Gods way of maturing saints. But then again you think you know better than all. There is the Father, son, Holy spirit and now Peter lag!

You have even condemned yourself by your own reinterpreting Gods Word to sit on your throne!

Romans 13

King James Version

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13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

You have declared that this means Gods men in authority!- Pastor teachers and prophets. but as you have removed yourself from fellowshipping with saints in a local assembly- you even sin against your won reinterpretations of Scripture.

I shake the dust off my feet.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Not even if it had died naturally . But this came from an aborted fetus .

Well that is your privilege and right as per romans 14. But do not sin and judge others if their conscience before God is different than yours. that is the heart of this matter.

 

[Naomanos]

Let me clarify what I mean by boundary. I am not placing boundaries on God. My boundary is for my ex-wife. As I stated, she has already taken so much from me and I have to set boundaries. I used to let her control how I myself lived even though she was no longer my wife. I cannot allow her to do that. I don't do it to her. What goes on in her house, goes on in her house and I rightfully have no say as long as the kids are not being physically harmed. It should be the same for her towards me, but that is not how it is.

So, I have to set boundaries and the church thing is one if them. If she feels so strongly about them going to church, she herself can come and get them and bring them to church or allow me to bring them to the church of my choice, as I allow her to do.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The only church for me would be the Episcopal church. It is that church or no church as far as I am concerned. There is no compromise from me on this. If she wants them to attend church, then she can concede. I have given up a lot and there have to be boundaries. This is a boundary that I have set.

So be it. I believe you wrong, but that is me. I wish you well.

 

[Naomanos]

So be it. I believe you wrong, but that is me. I wish you well.

I fleshed out what I meant. Maybe you will understand better after reading it.

There has been a conversation with my priest about this and he says that there is no wrong with what I am doing. He would prefer me to be in church but understands why I am not attending. He says God understands as well. He said as long as I continue to read my Bible and catch online sermons, that I am doing right by God within the circumstances that I have been dealt.

 

[Peterlag]

So yo0u are a self proclaimed expert and decided that you have no need for Gods Word and to obey it. Okay then. You will find out how wrong you are!

Boy do you spin and twist better than anyone. How do you come up with a statement like I have no need for God's Word and to obey it? It's not my fault I'm an expert in biblical data. I did not get here over night you know. I have spent years in the Scriptures to become an expert. The difference between us is you follow what your local Church says and what your local doctor says. And I don't.

 

[dad]

Now you are simply being a liar! I know of legions of preachers who tell peopole to get the shot if they feel teh need and oppose abortion. So no your blanket condemnation is sin.

You (I assume purposefully) pretend that the word preacher that I used was not referring to Biden and other leaders, and medical propagandists. Shame on you.

The rest of this statement is the politics of the shot and not the shot.

It was an issue because it was forced on populations by governments. No use pretending otherwise.

Still waiting for you to show the connection between abortion and the shot- biblically and not based on your emotion because you may have seena few liberal preachers who support abortion and the shot.

Again, the same people that pushed and promoted and forced and bullied and preached about the frankenshots in many or most cases also were involved in the baby massacre program or advocating of the same. If you see no connection there, don't blame me.

I am glad I choose not to live in your paranoia.

As many are not to share your justification of the wicked and seemingly willful delusion.

If you wish for unbelievers to live as believers without giving them christ first- you are just acting like a pharisee.

I wish to tell them the truth rather than join or justify them.

So you have gone to most churches in America? My you have been busy. I moved form new england to S. Carolina in November and in looking for a new church, I was able to rule out many simply because of their denominational affiliationa dn I went to three. All were bible believing and solid doctrinally (not perfect but solid) and I am now joing a church that I am convinced God led me to. They are out there. You just have to look so you can obey God.

Can you provide a statement of beliefs for them? That might be interesting. Since you maybe will avoid that, I will post an example of a church that is in apostasy as far as I can tell.

https://united-church.ca/sites/default/files/lgbtqia-two-spirit-timeline.pdf

What is the Church's position on homosexuality?

What is the position of The UMC on homosexuality? Ask The UMC is a service of United Methodist Communications.

www.umc.org

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Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)​

In 2006, the Presbyterian Church’s national governing body, the General Assembly, reaffirmed its belief that the termination of a pregnancy is a personal decision. While the church disapproves of abortion as a means of birth control or as a method of convenience, it seeks “to maintain within its fellowship those who, on the basis of a study of Scripture and prayerful decision, come to diverse conclusions and actions” on the issue."
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United Church of Christ​

The United Church of Christ is a firm advocate of reproductive rights, including the right to a safe abortion."

Religious Groups’ Official Positions on Abortion

A breakdown of 17 major religious groups' views on the issue of abortion.

www.pewresearch.org

"Churches can descend into apostasy on a wide variety of issues. They might succumb to mysticism, feminism, worldliness, works righteousness, or any of the myriad corrupting threats poised against the church. But there is a common thread uniting every church that turns from the truth after error. Setting aside the authority of God’s Word is the most well-worn path to apostasy."

The Pathology of an Apostate Church

This post was originally published in October 2018. –ed. Churches can descend into apostasy on a wide variety of issues. They might succumb to mysticism, feminism, worldliness, works righteou

www.gty.org

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Following is a list of examples of churches that claim to be Christian who are adopting unbiblical ideas. Note: individual churches do not represent denominations.

1. Changing the Bible to suit gender-neutral wording.
   1. This has crept into the church periodically in the last 30 years. Due to pressure from the secular society, some Christian based Bible publishers are offering gender-neutral Bibles. This is sad. Is God’s word any less true because it is not gender-neutral? Should Christians change God’s word to suit the unbeliever? No and no.
2. Metropolitan Community Church which openly approves of homosexuality.
3. The Evangelical Lutheran Church (on homosexuality)
   1. “The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America decided Monday to undertake its first major study on whether to endorse the morality of homosexual relationships…The Rev. Ann Tiemeyer of Woodside, N.Y., said she supports greater acceptance of gay church members and clergy. “It is time to send a message that we are a welcoming church, in our clergy as well as our pews,” she said,” (Associated Press Online, 08/13/2001, Lutherans to Study Homosexuality).
   2. “The church currently allows homosexual clergy if they practice celibacy.” (New Bishop for Evangelical Lutherans, ELCA, Associated Press Online, 10/06/2001.)
      1. Note: if a person acknowledges that homosexuality is a sin and is in a state of repentance but still has those tendencies, then this would not disqualify him from being a minister. However, if he were a homosexual who is not practicing but also believes that it is okay and not a sin, then that would disqualify him from being a minister.
4. The Evangelical Lutheran Church (on evolution)
   1. The ELCA doesn’t have an official position on creation vs. evolution, but we subscribe to the historical-critical method of biblical interpretation, so we believe God created the universe and all that is therein, only not necessarily in six 24-hour days, and that he may actually have used evolution in the process of creation. (http://www.elca.org/co/faq/evolution.html)
5. The Episcopal Church (woman bishop to oust conservative priest)
   1. “An Episcopal Church committee has backed efforts by Washington’s acting Bishop Jane Holmes Dixon to oust a conservative priest. A nine-member panel of clergy and laity said Dixon followed church law when she rejected the decision of the Christ Church vestry to hire the Rev. Samuel Edwards and ordered him to leave by May 25. Edwards refused, and continues to conduct services and occupy the rectory,” (Religion News in Brief, Associated Press Online, 09/27/2001),
6. The Mennonite Church (on homosexuality)
   1. “After nearly two decades of negotiation, the nation’s two largest Mennonite denominations overwhelmingly approved a merger Thursday that creates the 125,000-member Mennonite Church USA…Many delegates expressed mixed feelings about the new membership guidelines, under which the church will not recognize same-sex marriages. Individual congregations and regional conferences will decide whether homosexuals will be allowed as members. (Two Mennonite Groups Approve Merger, NASHVILLE, Tenn., Jul 05, 2001, AP Online via COMTEX).
7. The Presbyterian Church United States of America (on homosexuality)
   1. “In a closely watched case, the highest court of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) refused to rule Tuesday on whether a homosexual man is eligible to serve as a church elder. The court said the dispute surrounding Wayne Osborne had become moot because the First Presbyterian Church of Stamford, Conn., had installed another group of elders,” (Presbyterian Court Sidesteps Ruling; Ky., Dec 04, 2001, AP Online via COMTEX).
8. The United Church of Christ (on homosexuality)
   1. “The United Church of Christ set up a $500,000 scholarship fund for gay and lesbian seminarians Friday and urged wider acceptance of homosexuals by other denominations.” (United Church Makes Gay Scholarship, CLEVELAND, Jun 16, 2000, AP Online via COMTEX).
9. The United Methodist Church (on homosexuality)
   1. “The supreme court of the United Methodist Church was asked Thursday to reconsider the denomination’s ban on gay clergy. (Church court of United Methodists asked to decide on gay clergy ban, NASHVILLE, Tennessee, Oct 25, 2001, AP WorldStream via COMTEX).

In contemporary culture, homosexuality is gaining ground and acceptance. This should never bleed over into the Christian church. The fact that homosexuality is even in question in some denominations is a definite sign of apostasy since homosexuality clearly contradicts the plain teaching of scripture that homosexuality is a sin: “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God,” (1 Cor. 6:9-10)."

Examples of Apostasy in the Christian church

A list of churches that claim to be Christian who are adopting unbiblical ideas. Individual churches do not represent denominations.

carm.org

So yes many churches are in apostasy.

Heb. 10:
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

As long as you remain unchurched you are in rebellion against God. I wish better for you.

The verse does not say that meetings happen in a building. As pointed out, what are called churches today are in apostasy to a large degree.

 

[Peterlag]

Today AB-2098, the “physician misinformation bill” goes into effect as law in California. Physicians can no longer communicate nuanced risk about mRNA COVID vaccines to their patients without potentially having their licenses revoked.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You (I assume purposefully) pretend that the word preacher that I used was not referring to Biden and other leaders, and medical propagandists. Shame on you.

When did Biden get ordained to be a preacher? If you are going to use a play on biblical words, you should make people aware. Biden and Fauci and the other talking heads are NOT preachers.

It was an issue because it was forced on populations by governments. No use pretending otherwise.

Nor do I pretend. but the politics of the shot is not the danger supposedly of the shot that is claimed by many here to be of such a magnitude larger than all other meds as that teh shot itself is evil. I am waiting for that information. If you want to argue the poolitics, it would be a short argument, because for the most part I am in agreement that the politics has been bad, very bad.

So yes many churches are in apostasy.

Yes many churches are. what i am against is your seeping generalities on local churches without even knowing them.

"I already did. The preachers pushing the one also push the other. It is spiritual. It is not the same thing to go to a medical place of business for something we have the faith to and being bullied into an experiment. Obviously. We also now know there were cover ups, lies, conspiracy to silence, horrible side effects and death, and etc. Comparing that with going to a clinic for a cut is dishonest."

These are your words. If you knew, many of those denominations you listed are also going through splits because of things like homosexuality, abortion, women preachers, etc.

External christendom is growing more apostate as was prophesied.

But now you are using churches, when a statement above you said you were saying people like Biden are the preachers- can't be both.

The verse does not say that meetings happen in a building. As pointed out, what are called churches today are in apostasy to a large degree.

Well if you meet with a properly "ordained" Pastor/ teacher who is leadin g the flock is whatever building it meets, fine. I have taught the church is not a building but people for decades.

As many are not to share your justification of the wicked and seemingly willful delusion.

Well as I don't I just chalk up this statement to your false assumptions of me.

Can you provide a statement of beliefs for them? That might be interesting. Since you maybe will avoid that, I will post an example of a church that is in apostasy as far as I can tell.

Well I readily can, but seeing as you wish to presume to know my thoughts and mind and bear false witness by the implications of your statement, I will not until you recant of your slur of declaring maybe I will avoid that. Put you rbig boy pants on, apologizing for this and I will gladly post teh entire statement of beliefs for you.

 

[dad]

When did Biden get ordained to be a preacher? If you are going to use a play on biblical words, you should make people aware. Biden and Fauci and the other talking heads are NOT preachers.

If you did not know the common meaning of the word now you do. example:
"A bully pulpit is a public office or position of authority that provides the holder with an opportunity to speak out and be listened to on any matter. " bully pulpit

The 'top doctors' and others that preach about and push things could be called preachers etc. We could add to that the media these days, who hardly even seem to offer a veneer of fairness on key issues.

Nor do I pretend. but the politics of the shot is not the danger supposedly of the shot that is claimed by many here to be of such a magnitude larger than all other meds as that teh shot itself is evil.

The after effects are in question by medical authorities. The freedom theft is in question by ration thinkers. The origin and nature of the experimental shots is also questioned by medical experts. The ongoing program is also being savaged by medical professionals. example:
""It is unassailable that a very large fraction of highly inoculated [people] are among those being hospitalized or dying. So, at a minimum, the effectiveness in preventing hospitalization or death does not appear to be aligned with the official policy position." Investigation suggests COVID boosters INCREASE risk of illness, death
Vaccine euphoria is not longer a supportable stance.

I am waiting for that information. If you want to argue the poolitics, it would be a short argument, because for the most part I am in agreement that the politics has been bad, very bad.

No argument possible. The world plunged into fear propaganda and demanding submission from all in such a big and obvious way there can be no denying it.

Yes many churches are. what i am against is your seeping generalities on local churches without even knowing them.

I think we passed the point where generalities cannot and should not be made about church denominations departing the bible. I would assume a church strayed at least somewhat unless proven otherwise first.

"I already did. The preachers pushing the one also push the other. It is spiritual. It is not the same thing to go to a medical place of business for something we have the faith to and being bullied into an experiment. Obviously. We also now know there were cover ups, lies, conspiracy to silence, horrible side effects and death, and etc. Comparing that with going to a clinic for a cut is dishonest."

These are your words. If you knew, many of those denominations you listed are also going through splits because of things like homosexuality, abortion, women preachers, etc.

You have pegged the word preacher to churches. No. Teachers preach, as do many others in society. The issue with churches is departing from the word of God. The issue with some preachers of the world and medical system is that they have departed from truth and trustworthiness.

External christendom is growing more apostate as was prophesied.

Bingo

Well if you meet with a properly "ordained" Pastor/ teacher who is leadin g the flock is whatever building it meets, fine. I have taught the church is not a building but people for decades.

God properly ordains. Seminaries seem to sow doubts and confusion and deadness.

Well I readily can, but seeing as you wish to presume to know my thoughts and mind and bear false witness by the implications of your statement, I will not until you recant of your slur of declaring maybe I will avoid that. Put you rbig boy pants on, apologizing for this and I will gladly post teh entire statement of beliefs for you.

The proof is in the pudding. If you claim some denomination is good, having a look at their policies and record and statement of faith would help. If you feel guilty or something, don't blame others for 'implications'.

 

[Mr E]

If you did not know the common meaning of the word now you do. example:
"A bully pulpit is a public office or position of authority that provides the holder with an opportunity to speak out and be listened to on any matter. " bully pulpit

The 'top doctors' and others that preach about and push things could be called preachers etc. We could add to that the media these days, who hardly even seem to offer a veneer of fairness on key issues.


The after effects are in question by medical authorities. The freedom theft is in question by ration thinkers. The origin and nature of the experimental shots is also questioned by medical experts. The ongoing program is also being savaged by medical professionals. example:
""It is unassailable that a very large fraction of highly inoculated [people] are among those being hospitalized or dying. So, at a minimum, the effectiveness in preventing hospitalization or death does not appear to be aligned with the official policy position." Investigation suggests COVID boosters INCREASE risk of illness, death
Vaccine euphoria is not longer a supportable stance.

No argument possible. The world plunged into fear propaganda and demanding submission from all in such a big and obvious way there can be no denying it.

I think we passed the point where generalities cannot and should not be made about church denominations departing the bible. I would assume a church strayed at least somewhat unless proven otherwise first.

You have pegged the word preacher to churches. No. Teachers preach, as do many others in society. The issue with churches is departing from the word of God. The issue with some preachers of the world and medical system is that they have departed from truth and trustworthiness.

Bingo


God properly ordains. Seminaries seem to sow doubts and confusion and deadness.

The proof is in the pudding. If you claim some denomination is good, having a look at their policies and record and statement of faith would help. If you feel guilty or something, don't blame others for 'implications'.

California just passed a law prohibiting physicians from disseminating “disinformation” about mRNA vaccines. (Meaning saying anything they don’t want you to talk about).

Violators can have their license to practice medicine revoked.

That sounds like science.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

If you did not know the common meaning of the word now you do. example:
"A bully pulpit is a public office or position of authority that provides the holder with an opportunity to speak out and be listened to on any matter. " bully pulpit

The 'top doctors' and others that preach about and push things could be called preachers etc. We could add to that the media these days, who hardly even seem to offer a veneer of fairness on key issues.

Well we were not talking about politicians then but "preachers". I know th ediffeence and how they use words interchangably.

The after effects are in question by medical authorities. The freedom theft is in question by ration thinkers. The origin and nature of the experimental shots is also questioned by medical experts. The ongoing program is also being savaged by medical professionals. example:
""It is unassailable that a very large fraction of highly inoculated [people] are among those being hospitalized or dying. So, at a minimum, the effectiveness in preventing hospitalization or death does not appear to be aligned with the official policy position." Investigation suggests COVID boosters INCREASE risk of illness, death
Vaccine euphoria is not longer a supportable stance.

Yes we have no hard data on long term effects yet.

Your article is just another in a long line of conjecture. they use %ages and ephemeral terms, but do not supply real data. this is the problem with the conspiracy nuts. they use articles that paint grim pictures, and so far the ones I bothered to take the time and get the numbers for, show that those numbers are tiny in comparison to overall numbers or are hospitalizations based on non-related issues that they also have covid for. At best these articles are vague- at worst- intentionally deceptive.

I am not a pro shot person, nor an anti shot person.

No argument possible. The world plunged into fear propaganda and demanding submission from all in such a big and obvious way there can be no denying it.

And I agree! The politics is miserable.

I think we passed the point where generalities cannot and should not be made about church denominations departing the bible. I would assume a church strayed at least somewhat unless proven otherwise first.

So you hold to teh communist philosophy of guilty until proven innocent. So sad.

You have pegged the word preacher to churches. No. Teachers preach, as do many others in society. The issue with churches is departing from the word of God. The issue with some preachers of the world and medical system is that they have departed from truth and trustworthiness.

Well go take a survey of 10,000 people and ask themn to give yo uthe first word that comes to mind when you say preacher! I am confident over 99.5% will have some religious connotation.

God properly ordains. Seminaries seem to sow doubts and confusion and deadness.

And what does seminaries have to do with ordination? Yes god is the one who elevates Pastors, but God through Paul told those ordained- to lay hands on others to ordain them. that is Gods Word.

The proof is in the pudding. If you claim some denomination is good, having a look at their policies and record and statement of faith would help. If you feel guilty or something, don't blame others for 'implications'

I have no guilt what so ever! I am not talking whole denominations. I am talking about churches. There are som e apostate churches that on paper look rock solid, they just don't believe or teach according to their statement of faith.

Still waiting for your recantation of you rinmplications. You are the ones making subtle and explicit charges, many woith and many without proof.

But if you are not part of a local assembly that has a properly ordained pastor- you are a rogue Christian who is in sin and rebellion against what God has commanded for individual believers.

 

[dad]

California just passed a law prohibiting physicians from disseminating “disinformation” about mRNA vaccines. (Meaning saying anything they don’t want you to talk about).

Violators can have their license to practice medicine revoked.

That sounds like science.

Tyranny.

 

[dad]

Well we were not talking about politicians then but "preachers". I know th ediffeence and how they use words interchangably.

Guess you expanded your horizons.

Yes we have no hard data on long term effects yet.

Right

Your article is just another in a long line of conjecture. they use %ages and ephemeral terms, but do not supply real data. this is the problem with the conspiracy nuts. they use articles that paint grim pictures, and so far the ones I bothered to take the time and get the numbers for, show that those numbers are tiny in comparison to overall numbers or are hospitalizations based on non-related issues that they also have covid for. At best these articles are vague- at worst- intentionally deceptive.

Numbers are tools used by people that want to preach on something. I know of no numbers I trust that support the vaccine slavery program.

I am not a pro shot person, nor an anti shot person.

And I agree! The politics is miserable.

So you hold to teh communist philosophy of guilty until proven innocent. So sad.

No. I hold to, when a plethora of doctors and experts sound the alarm, and circumstantial evidence abounds (such as weird sudden deaths) I tread cautiously. They say fools go where angels fear to tread.

Well go take a survey of 10,000 people and ask themn to give yo uthe first word that comes to mind when you say preacher! I am confident over 99.5% will have some religious connotation.

If someone preaches (like Greta the Green queen) then we can call them a preacher. If you want to restrict all use of the word to the church system, that is your problem.

And what does seminaries have to do with ordination? Yes god is the one who elevates Pastors, but God through Paul told those ordained- to lay hands on others to ordain them. that is Gods Word.

Name a place where people get ordained that does not involve them?

I have no guilt what so ever! I am not talking whole denominations. I am talking about churches. There are som e apostate churches that on paper look rock solid, they just don't believe or teach according to their statement of faith.

You may be right. However since you did not provide the denomination etc I guess we have to take your word for it. You seem to like blind trust.

Still waiting for your recantation of you rinmplications. You are the ones making subtle and explicit charges, many woith and many without proof.

The whole system stinks. So I have no reason to assume that every time someone uses the word church that it means all that much.

But if you are not part of a local assembly that has a properly ordained pastor- you are a rogue Christian who is in sin and rebellion against what God has commanded for individual believers.

Says you. I think the apostles were properly ordained. I also think the pope preaches some things that are not biblical. Is he ordained?

 

[Peterlag]

Rasmussen Poll Shows that 1-in-4 Americans Believe They Know Someone Who Died from COVID Vaccine​

BREAKING: Rasmussen Poll Shows that 1-in-4 Americans Believe They Know Someone Who Died from COVID Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

Rasmussen released shocking poll results regarding the COVID vaccines. According to Rasmussen reports: Nearly half of Americans think COVID-19 vaccines may be to blame for many unexplained deaths, and more than a quarter say someone they know could be among the victims.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Naomanos]

Rasmussen Poll Shows that 1-in-4 Americans Believe They Know Someone Who Died from COVID Vaccine

BREAKING: Rasmussen Poll Shows that 1-in-4 Americans Believe They Know Someone Who Died from COVID Vaccine | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

Rasmussen released shocking poll results regarding the COVID vaccines. According to Rasmussen reports: Nearly half of Americans think COVID-19 vaccines may be to blame for many unexplained deaths, and more than a quarter say someone they know could be among the victims.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Let's see. My whole family is vaccinated, including my little ones, my fiance's family are all vaccinated. We're talking 50+ people.

No one has gotten sick from the vaccine, let alone died from the vaccine or has died from Covid.

 

[Peterlag]

Let's see. My whole family is vaccinated, including my little ones, my fiance's family are all vaccinated. We're talking 50+ people.

No one has gotten sick from the vaccine, let alone died from the vaccine or has died from Covid.

I'm not so lucky. I believe I lost 2 younger than me strong healthy still working friends after they were both vaccinated with 2 boosters. Both died suddenly in their sleep.

 

[Peterlag]

Japan Launches Official Investigation Into Millions of COVID Vaccine Deaths​

Japan Launches Official Investigation Into Millions of COVID Vaccine Deaths - News Punch

Japan has launched an official investigation into the unprecedented numbers of people dying after receiving the Covid-19 vaccination.

newspunch.com