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amigo de christo

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God chooses not to heal everyone and if there is a way, through a vaccine, to keep me healthy, I will do so. There is no prohibition in the Bible or from God that says not to be vaccinated. The vaccine is an unclean thing in your mind. There is no aborted fetus line used in the making of these vaccines. It is synthetic, meaning not organic.
a normal vaccine is fine . but one that has the blood of babes on it is not fine .
Touch not the uclean thing .
 

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Well I am 68. How old are you? Bye bye. YOu need some time in the desert with god. YOu keep reinterpreting teh bible to suit your agendas, you will find out which bad translations are.

But my favorites just for the Record.

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I have been walking with the Lord for 49 years, how about you? You seem just a little older than my youngest child.

There's a few of us on here that are just trying to help you and you fight us every step of the way. The government is lying to you. Stop taking the shots.
 

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a normal vaccine is fine . but one that has the blood of babes on it is not fine .
Touch not the uclean thing .

Again, I did it because it is what was right for me to do to protect myself. I spoke to my doctor and I prayed about it and had peace about it. The kind of peace that only comes from God.
 

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Stop taking the shots.

No. It has protected me and my family. It is not like I am going about it blind. I have spoken with my doctor and prayed about it. It is what is right for me to do to protect myself as someone with moderate to severe asthma as well as protect the immunocompromised family members that I love.
 

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Fearmongering has grown old. It is not man that will save us. If leaders push abortion as well as vaccine slavery, it is connected. A Satanic agenda based on fear and lies.
show please how a covid shot and abortions are connected. I hope you never need a hospital and go to it! That makes you a hypocrite- trusting man to save you.
Which doctors!?
Well maybe you do not have a PCP or primary care physician you trust, but I do. They are not perfect but I trust my care to them to a large degree, because they are trained. Just like I trust my auto mechanic to fix my car.
 

Ronald Nolette

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What comes out of the heart defiles . This shot has the blood of babes on it .
Touch not the unclean thing .
Show how a shot is an intentional evil thing coming out of the heart of an individual. Stop pontificating in generic terminology and get specific. No one intentionally killed babies to create a stem cell line that could be used to medically help millions over the decades. I guess you would have preferred to see all these people just die.

YOu sound like Jonah whining about the palm frond and God explaining about the vast number of heathens. If they created this stem cell line from a baby who died naturally would that make it clean to you?
 

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The fed doesn't care about the constitution because there is no more America. It won't be long, and the Federal Constitution and Bill of Rights are going in the dump. You say the fed has no authority in the constitution to mandate shots for anyone but their own employees but didn't they mandate the VAX to fly - Vaccine Passports. They are pushing hard to implement several draconian control measures and create a world that none of us want to be in.

Well now you are talking about a totally different subject- when a govt. violates its own laws.

We can argue about what the fed can and cannot do- but once again what the law is, is! If the fed violated the constitution, that is a different subject with different results. But if they do pass an illegal law- (vaccines to fly), until that law is overthrown by SCOUTS, no shot- no fly! We are not talking about teh rightness or wrong ness of laws, but just what is!
Welcome to Globalism and the NWO. The government has crossed the line over and over again - if you only knew about some of the things attached to certain Bills and what's in some of the outrageous Executive Orders Biden has signed. I don't need a scripture taken out of common sense to decline the shot because no government has the scriptural authority to violate my body.
Yes and we are moving to a 1 world govt., then the ten rulers, then the antichrist. If you think laws are bad now- just wait! But once again we are commanded to obey the laws of governing authorities that do not violate Scripture. Paul when he appealed to Cesar said if he had done something worthy of death, he was not afraid to die. He did not scream like a howling monkey about how unfair the laws were, how his rights were violated, but used the law as best he could- to advance the kingdom of God! We need to learn from that.
Central Bank Digital Currency
Enhanced biosecurity
Population control
Population surveillance
Digital IDs
Social credit systems
AI automated censorship
Universal Basic Income
Control of the food supply, of water, of energy, of housing, of education.

Ultimately, the total control and enslavement of humanity through Central Bank Digital Currency, or some variation of it.
Yes. I have done seminars about teh advance of the future trends towards the mark and the beast and cannot buy or sell without the mark. These are all things that do not violate Scripture. They are moving us to an unbelievable evil.

but if you live in America, you have taken a precursor to the mark- the social security number. You cannot buy or sell as an american without that number (except the black markets of course)
 

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There's a few of us on here that are just trying to help you and you fight us every step of the way. The government is lying to you. Stop taking the shots.
Well thanks for yo0ur attempted help. But I stand before God not Peterlag. I see no authority you have over me. and all you post is conjecture or opinions without hard research to back it up.

Yo have failed to show why the shots are unbiblical so why should I bother listen to you?
 

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So you do not attend a local assembly and sit under a pastor teacher? Just another rogue Christian living in disobedience.

To be fair, I do not attend church currently either. I get my kids on the weekends and their mother who divorced me doesn't like that I attend an Episcopal church. She only wants me to go to a Non-Denominational that leans heavily toward Southern Baptist or a Pentecostal church. I will attend neither as I am not fed at either kind of church. Since she has the ultimate decision making on where our kids attend per the divorce decree, I cannot go against her or I am breaking the divorce decree.

So I don't attend church currently. Not because I do not want to, but because of the above.
 

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To be fair, I do not attend church currently either. I get my kids on the weekends and their mother who divorced me doesn't like that I attend an Episcopal church. She only wants me to go to a Non-Denominational that leans heavily toward Southern Baptist or a Pentecostal church. I will attend neither as I am not fed at either kind of church. Since she has the ultimate decision making on where our kids attend per the divorce decree, I cannot go against her or I am breaking the divorce decree.

So I don't attend church currently. Not because I do not want to, but because of the above.
So I do not misunderstand- your wife got inserted into the divorce decree that on your weekends, she has the right to veto which church you go to?

That is a clear violation of the first amendment. She cannot force you to go to a certain church . But that is beside the point.

You should go to a SBC church then. They are for the most part teachers of sound doctrine. Granted they are no where near as liturgical as the Episcopalian denomination, but you need to be the example for your kids and take them to a bible believing church. Both for your sakes and theirs.
 

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So I do not misunderstand- your wife got inserted into the divorce decree that on your weekends, she has the right to veto which church you go to?

In the Divorce decree, it states that she has the final say over the religious upbringing of the children. So, I cannot override her. If I do I can be held in contempt and that is not a violation of the first amendment. I have spoken with a lawyer and he said that there is nothing that I can do other than get custody of the kids so that it changes to where I have the final say. Someone has to have the final say and unless the father gets to be the custodial parent, it is not him. That is what I am dealing with.

You should go to a SBC church then. They are for the most part teachers of sound doctrine. Granted they are no where near as liturgical as the Episcopalian denomination, but you need to be the example for your kids and take them to a bible believing church. Both for your sakes and theirs.

No thanks! I will not attend a Southern Baptist Church. I find their services to be more of a rock concert and the message severely lacking. If I want to go to a concert, I will buy tickets for it and it won't be at a church.

I will stick to the Episcopal church, thanks!
 

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show please how a covid shot and abortions are connected. I hope you never need a hospital and go to it! That makes you a hypocrite- trusting man to save you.

I already did. The preachers pushing the one also push the other. It is spiritual. It is not the same thing to go to a medical place of business for something we have the faith to and being bullied into an experiment. Obviously. We also now know there were cover ups, lies, conspiracy to silence, horrible side effects and death, and etc. Comparing that with going to a clinic for a cut is dishonest.

Well maybe you do not have a PCP or primary care physician you trust, but I do. They are not perfect but I trust my care to them to a large degree, because they are trained. Just like I trust my auto mechanic to fix my car.
And so...? You can trust popeye to feed you as well if you like. My opinion is that so many primary physicians went along with the con, that they should have to prove they did not to be trusted. To each his own.

Oh, and yes it is also fair game to quiz them and enquire if they are in any way associated with baby murder or gender assault.
 

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So you do not attend a local assembly and sit under a pastor teacher? Just another rogue Christian living in disobedience.
? Most churches are apostate. The rest should be meeting secretly due to the danger of being shut down again in the next plandemic. Or at least they should have plans to go underground. How dare anyone condemn other believers for meeting or obeying according to their faith in houses or whatever. What self righteous sanctimonious holier than thou lukewarm baloney.
 

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So you do not attend a local assembly and sit under a pastor teacher? Just another rogue Christian living in disobedience.

Now why would I want to sit under a church teacher? I forgot more about the Bible than he would ever know. You have to remember I'm an expert in biblical concepts. Here look for yourself... www.carb-fat.com/spirit.html
 

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Show how a shot is an intentional evil thing coming out of the heart of an individual. Stop pontificating in generic terminology and get specific. No one intentionally killed babies to create a stem cell line that could be used to medically help millions over the decades. I guess you would have preferred to see all these people just die.

YOu sound like Jonah whining about the palm frond and God explaining about the vast number of heathens. If they created this stem cell line from a baby who died naturally would that make it clean to you?
Not even if it had died naturally . But this came from an aborted fetus .
 
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Well I am 68. How old are you? Bye bye. YOu need some time in the desert with god. YOu keep reinterpreting teh bible to suit your agendas, you will find out which bad translations are.

But my favorites just for the Record.

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I have been walking with the Lord for 49 years, how about you? You seem just a little older than my youngest child.

I doubt you have been walking with the Lord for 49 years. It seems to me you don't even know who the Christ is.
 

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In the Divorce decree, it states that she has the final say over the religious upbringing of the children. So, I cannot override her. If I do I can be held in contempt and that is not a violation of the first amendment. I have spoken with a lawyer and he said that there is nothing that I can do other than get custody of the kids so that it changes to where I have the final say. Someone has to have the final say and unless the father gets to be the custodial parent, it is not him. That is what I am dealing with.



No thanks! I will not attend a Southern Baptist Church. I find their services to be more of a rock concert and the message severely lacking. If I want to go to a concert, I will buy tickets for it and it won't be at a church.

I will stick to the Episcopal church, thanks!
Well my SBC church is grand . No rock concert and great preaching. I am sure you can find a strong church to be an example for your children when you have them.
Even a church that is less than very satisfactory but still preaches the word, is better than not taking your kids to worship the Lord with you.

Remember, even though divorced, you are still their father and still need to set the example for them in Godliness and devotion to the Lord, even if it is only a weekend at a time.
 

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Well my SBC church is grand . No rock concert and great preaching. I am sure you can find a strong church to be an example for your children when you have them.
Even a church that is less than very satisfactory but still preaches the word, is better than not taking your kids to worship the Lord with you.

Remember, even though divorced, you are still their father and still need to set the example for them in Godliness and devotion to the Lord, even if it is only a weekend at a time.

The only church for me would be the Episcopal church. It is that church or no church as far as I am concerned. There is no compromise from me on this. If she wants them to attend church, then she can concede. I have given up a lot and there have to be boundaries. This is a boundary that I have set.