Warning about vaccines from doctors and scientists

[dad]

If they were intentionally killing babies to make medicines I would agree with you.

but this is the world, if it was a Christian org, it would be different. Once again you better check lots of stuff you use or take, you may be doing the same thing they do.

Science found a use for the aborted babies. They could create stem cell lines that would help others to live. If this was part of a plot to kill babies I agree, otherwise you are crfeating a tempest in a teapot.

They found a use for the murder victims. Wow

 

[Peterlag]

The higher power are men of God and God's Word. Not the police and governments. It's not my fault you read bad translations.

The translation you are referring to was not written by Paul. It mostly started showing up in Bible copies in the early to mid 1970's. That was a long time after Paul first penned it in Romans 13.

 

[Naomanos]

Your communist Bible translations that say no government but what God put there.

What Bibles are those?

 

[Peterlag]

What Bibles are those?

The new modern Bibles change so much of the old text to fit their religion that I believe there not even Bibles anymore. Some of the newer ones that came out about 50 years ago say in Roman 13 stuff to indicate that no government is in power unless God put it there.

 

[Naomanos]

The new modern Bibles change so much of the old text to fit their religion that I believe there not even Bibles anymore. Some of the newer ones that came out about 50 years ago say in Roman 13 stuff to indicate that no government is in power unless God put it there.

So what Bible do you read?

 

[stormymonday]

So if I believe I have a right to kill you, I should not be led by the nose?

We are commanded by god to obey the governing authorities. We have no right to protest, rebel or cause an uprising. We may choose to disobey based on conscience, but you must be willing to pay the price if there is a penalty for your disobedience.

Crazy example: You believe god has granted you to do 75 in a 55 mile/hour zone. When the police pull you over- you will get a $250 ticket no matter what you believe.

Show me the biblical principle that says you should not get a shot if the state, town or employer you deal with mandate it.

If an employer calls for all to get a shot- and you refuse- you can and probably will be rightly fired.

I think you need a reality check as to what's really going on in the world. If the gov tells you to rat on your own kids or parents who refuse the vax - would you do it? I have too many friends who have already died "suddenly and unexpectedly!"

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[Peterlag]

So what Bible do you read?

I'm an old KJV guy. But in the last 5 years I started looking at older ones and then when I want to get a feeling for a verse I might check 30 other translations. The newer ones are really really bad because men wrote them to fit whatever religion they were in at the time.

 

[Naomanos]

I'm an old KJV guy. But in the last 5 years I started looking at older ones and then when I want to get a feeling for a verse I might check 30 other translations. The newer ones are really really bad because men wrote them to fit whatever religion they were in at the time.

You may not believe this, but I cannot really read the KJV. I have tried and tried. It is too distracting for me. Old English is distracting. It is why I didn't do well when it came to Shakespeare during High School English.

I use either the NKJV, NRSV with Apocrypha, or the NIV when I want a simple easy-to-read Bible. I am partial to the NIV that my ex-wife got me which was my first Bible. It's a Men's Devotional Bible.

 

[Peterlag]

You may not believe this, but I cannot really read the KJV. I have tried and tried. It is too distracting for me. Old English is distracting. It is why I didn't do well when it came to Shakespeare during High School English.

I use either the NKJV, NRSV with Apocrypha, or the NIV when I want a simple easy-to-read Bible. I am partial to the NIV that my ex-wife got me which was my first Bible. It's a Men's Devotional Bible.

I found a Bible I like a lot but he is a Trinity guy and even changes words to fit that Jesus is God. It's a good New Testament Bible if you can just read around his Trinity stuff. Here's the link to it... Romans 1 Peshitta Holy Bible Translated

 

[Naomanos]

I found a Bible I like a lot but he is a Trinity guy and even changes words to fit that Jesus is God. It's a good New Testament Bible if you can just read around his Trinity stuff. Here's the link to it... Romans 1 Peshitta Holy Bible Translated

I am a trinitarian, so I have no issues with the Trinity. Thank you for letting me know!

 

[Peterlag]

I am a trinitarian, so I have no issues with the Trinity. Thank you for letting me know!

Yeah but it's a sin for me to tell people about Trinity stuff. But I did it for you.

 

[Naomanos]

Yeah but it's a sin for me to tell people about Trinity stuff. But I did it for you.

What denomination are you?

 

[Peterlag]

I'm not with a group.

 

[Naomanos]

Then why is it a sin to tell people about the Holy Trinity? Does it just go against your beliefs and therefore whatever is not of faith is a sin?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I probably was reading your bad Bible thinking translations before you were born. And yet you seem to talk about me like if I just started this yesterday. Your communist Bible translations that say no government but what God put there. And yet you don't see that Karl Marx wrote that.

Well I am 68. How old are you? Bye bye. YOu need some time in the desert with god. YOu keep reinterpreting teh bible to suit your agendas, you will find out which bad translations are.

But my favorites just for the Record.

Koine Greek
Keil and Delitzcsh 10 volume Hebrew Bible
KJV
NKJV
Amplified
NIV
NASB

I have been walking with the Lord for 49 years, how about you? You seem just a little older than my youngest child.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

And if i find out it was done off this , I shall not touch the unclean things .

Which is your privilege. But it is God and not you who determines what is clean.

And Jesus said that NOTHING that goes into a man defiles him. So this shot cannot defile a man.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

new lines OFF THE ORIGINAL . i shall not touch the unclean thing .

Which is what your conscience calls upon. but don't dare judge other believers for taking the shot!

 

[Naomanos]

but don't dare judge other believers for taking the shot!

Especially when other believers may be in worse health than you may be. With my asthma and the people that I love with compromised immune systems, the shot was a no-brainer for me, doubly so after speaking with my doctor.

 

[stormymonday]

What denomination are you?

What does that matter. Non-trinitarians are everywhere. 43 % of evangelicals now believe Jesus was not God. That says something.

They just won't admit publicly.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

According to our faith be it done unto us. If believers want none of the abortion pushers pills or experimental frankenshots, that is fine. The hospitals and world is full of folks that had vaccines out the wazoo and who still got sick. Big joke.

And the streets are filled with people who took the vaccines out the wazoo and are alive because of them! When did we get on abortion here. that is way off topic.

I had 5 covid shots. got covid once and all I had was a cough for a few days. Given my risk factors, I may have died without the shots.

Let us see how well you do when the 12 omicron variants that are killing hundreds of thousands in China reach American shores.