Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Dcopymope]

Did you know that Mormons believe that God the Father came down in person and impregnated Mary, resulting in the birth of Jesus?

Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sound like a virgin birth.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sound like a virgin birth.

They don't believe that Jesus was born of a virgin. They also believe that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers from the same father. Spooky!

 

[Dcopymope]

They don't believe that Jesus was born of a virgin. They also believe that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers from the same father. Spooky!

Woah, talk about blasphemy. I don't even know what to say to that foolishness.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Woah, talk about blasphemy. I don't even know what to say to that foolishness.

The doctrine is that Lucifer became jealous of Jesus being the favoured son of the Father, so he decided to become the devil and oppose God. The concerning thing about this is that there is an animated story about all this that are shown and taught to their Sunday School children!

 

[Illuminator]

Does not compute. Mary gave birth to a baby, not a man, BTW. Jesus didn't claim Mary as his heavenly mother. He said he did the will of his Father in heaven. He even asked who his mother and brother were. Do you know the answer?

Yes. All those who do the will of God. That INCLUDES Mary, unless you want to deny she did the will of God in Luke 1. Revelation 12:17 also describes those who "do the will of God":
Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her children, those who keep the commandments of God and hold the testimony of Jesus. Who is the woman?

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL...

A human CREATED woman is the Mother of The UnCreated Everlasting God who has neither a Mother or Father...

Nothing more than religious catholic doctrine brainwashing.

You were "supposed" to learn "to submit" to Jesus' Spiritual Doctrine, Truth, Spiritual Church and Christ Jesus Himself...
NOT men, NOT Doctrines of men, NOT mens Truths and NOT Churches built with men's hands.

Ah but they got you from the Cradle...and have been THINKING for you and DICATING your Beliefs TO YOU for how many years now?

Obviously a long time...since you MIMIC what you were taught...pretending you are Qualified to "Think and Speak" for others... and then pretending you are Qualified...to Dictate "your thoughts and speaking for others"...are Wrong....LOL...
What a Twisted Lot you are Yoked with!

And the most amusing part...
Is the ONLY source of Verification you can present ... for your teaching of:


"Mary, Mother of God"
"Mary, perpetual Virgin"
"Mary, sinless"
"Mary, passing her Human DNA, to Jesus"
"Mary, having NEVER, married Joseph."

Is but from Doctrines of men.

Which comically, has A Betrothed Jewish woman, Traveling and Living for Years with a man.

LOL...ya sure, Jewish Custom for Betrothed women... to travel with and live with the man she is Betrothed to!
LOL...NOT!

Your manmade False Doctrine...is what Men IN Christ Jesus were warned About...

UGH!

ALL that insane ranting - yet you never got passed the Biblical fact that . . .

Mary gave birth to Jesus - and Jesus is GOD, according to the Bible:
Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6, Matt. 4:7, John 1:1, John 1:3, John 8:58, John 10:30, John 15:9, John 20:28, Acts 5:3-4, 2 Cor. 4:4, Phil. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Titus 2:13

 

[101G]

Jesus IS God incarnate.
Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

is one saying here that all mighty God is incarnate, if so then please explain this, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men".

now if God G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v. HIMSELF, meaning,
1. to make empty.
2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
[from G2756]
KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
Root(s): G2756

so if God "MADE" HIMSELF, empty, who was running, or upholding the universe?.

if he neutralize HIMSELF, of all his powers, as said who is running or upholding the universe?

PICJAG.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Does not compute. Mary gave birth to a baby, not a man, BTW. Jesus didn't claim Mary as his heavenly mother. He said he did the will of his Father in heaven. He even asked who his mother and brother were. Do you know the answer?

I see that in your desperation, your responses are getting more asinine . . .

Ummmm, I said that Jesus s FULLY God and FULLY Man and that Mary gave birth to Him
I DIDN'T say that she gave birth to "A" man, Einstein.

The answer to your question is that Jesus wasn't speaking literally.
He had a literal mother and was speaking metaphorically when He stated that ANYONE who does the Father's will is His mother and brother and sister.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Anyone can cobble a collection of verses together to make the Bible say what they want it to say. It is called handling the Word of God deceitfully (2 Corinthians 4:2).

No - it's called Biblical CONTEXT.
The context of Scripture illustrates that Mary is the fulfullment of the Ark of the Covenant.

ALL of the verses I showed you are either:
a) Types and fulfillments
b) Mere "coincidences"

If you knew anything about the Word of God - you would know that He doesn't deal in "coincidences" . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

is one saying here that all mighty God is incarnate, if so then please explain this, Philippians 2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men".

now if God G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v. HIMSELF, meaning,
1. to make empty.
2. (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify.
[from G2756]
KJV: make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain
Root(s): G2756

so if God "MADE" HIMSELF, empty, who was running, or upholding the universe?.

if he neutralize HIMSELF, of all his powers, as said who is running or upholding the universe?

PICJAG.

This is ONLY a problem for those who ascribe to the heresy that God is NOT a Trinity.
This verse is speaking about God the SON - NOT God the Father or Holy Spirit.

You see - THIS is the kind of confusion that happens when you go into heresy . . .

 

[101G]

This is ONLY a problem for those who ascribe to the heresy that God is NOT a Trinity.
This verse is speaking about God the SON - NOT God the Father or Holy Spirit.

You see - THIS is the kind of confusion that happens when you go into heresy . . .

so we can take this as you cannot answer the question.

ERROR, for he was in the Nature/form of GOD, G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n. who is Spirit. (see John 4:24a). and that same Spirit, according to Philippians 2:7 that same Spirit did this, "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men”.

now if the TRINITY doctrine say, or claim three “person”, but one Spirit, well it was the Spirit that G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v. HIMSELF, if you say only the Spirit that is the Son, then you have two Spirit. and that's anti bible. the bible is clear that is only one Spirit, Ephesians 4:4 "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling”. so the Nature of God is Spirit and that Spirit, “made himself of no reputation” and took on the likeness of men.

so the question still stand "HOW DID GOD", G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v. HIMSELF and still run the universe, will be looking for your answer.

PICJAG.

 

[BreadOfLife]

so we can take this as you cannot answer the question.

ERROR, for he was in the Nature/form of GOD, G3444 μορφή morphe (mor-fee') n. who is Spirit. (see John 4:24a). and that same Spirit, according to Philippians 2:7 that same Spirit did this, "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men”.

now if the TRINITY doctrine say, or claim three “person”, but one Spirit, well it was the Spirit that G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v. HIMSELF, if you say only the Spirit that is the Son, then you have two Spirit. and that's anti bible. the bible is clear that is only one Spirit, Ephesians 4:4 "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling”. so the Nature of God is Spirit and that Spirit, “made himself of no reputation” and took on the likeness of men.

so the question still stand "HOW DID GOD", G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') v. HIMSELF and still run the universe, will be looking for your answer.

PICJAG.

Then you simply don't understand the Trinity - hence, your heretical confusion.

Jesus is FULLY HUMAN as well as Fully Divine.
Humans have a body - AND a spirit. Jesus is no different in that respect. However, He is ALSO God.

 

[101G]

Then you simply don't understand the Trinity - hence, your heretical confusion.

Jesus is FULLY HUMAN as well as Fully Divine.
Humans have a body - AND a spirit. Jesus is no different in that respect. However, He is ALSO God.

Nope you missed the point if Jesus is fully human, and is God as you said, "HOW DID GOD MAKE HIMSELF EMPTY AND STILL WAS RUNNING OR UPHOLDING THE UNIVERSE, WHILE NEUTRALIZE OF HIS POWERS?". remember your trinity states three "PERSON" one Spirit. and God is a Spirit, and that Spirit, whoever you want it to be made HIMSELF empty. now as you claim, if it was the person the Son then you have a bigger problem, because now you're saying that the Son is a seperate Spirit. but what did the scripture states, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, (meaning being in the Form of the Spirit, the same self Spirit). thought it not robbery to be equal with God". so now you have two seperate Spirit, meaning you have two GODS, if not then my Question still stand, "How did God make himself empty and yet uphold the universe?

do you have an answer to that question?.

looking to hear your answer.

PICJAG.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nope you missed the point if Jesus is fully human, and is God as you said, "HOW DID GOD MAKE HIMSELF EMPTY AND STILL WAS RUNNING OR UPHOLDING THE UNIVERSE, WHILE NEUTRALIZE OF HIS POWERS?". remember your trinity states three "PERSON" one Spirit. and God is a Spirit, and that Spirit, whoever you want it to be made HIMSELF empty. now as you claim, if it was the person the Son then you have a bigger problem, because now you're saying that the Son is a seperate Spirit. but what did the scripture states, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, (meaning being in the Form of the Spirit, the same self Spirit). thought it not robbery to be equal with God". so now you have two seperate Spirit, meaning you have two GODS, if not then my Question still stand, "How did God make himself empty and yet uphold the universe?

do you have an answer to that question?.

looking to hear your answer.

PICJAG.

So, the bottom line here is that YOU don't have faith in God's omnipotence.
God can ONLY do what YOU can comprehend - but nothing else - is that it??

According to Phil. 2:7, God emptied Himself anc became Human AS THE SON - NOT as the Trinity.
MY omnipotent God is capable of that. Not sure if YOUR little god is . . .

 

[101G]

this has nothing to do with my Faith nor your, but the TRUTH. the srciptures are TRUTH. then you said this,

According to Phil. 2:7, God emptied Himself anc became Human AS THE SON - NOT as the Trinity.
MY omnipotent God is capable of that. Not sure if YOUR little god is . . .

yes, God can do anything he want, but that's not changing the TRUTH, nor his written word which is the TRUTH. because he tell us how he did it, RIGHT IN HIS OWN WORD, THE BIBLE. and you don't KNOW IT, that's the problem here, "U" Don't know it, or understand how he did it. we have told you over and over, you refuse to listen, but the scriptures are true, men love darkness more than light.

now bread of life. putting all of this aside, we said that the bible tells us how he did it, can you tell us? or give us your best answer you have, as to how he run the universe and at the same time manifest in flesh as a man?

we'll be waiting for your answer if you can answer it.

PICJAG.

 

[BreadOfLife]

this has nothing to do with my Faith nor your, but the TRUTH. the srciptures are TRUTH. then you said this,

yes, God can do anything he want, but that's not changing the TRUTH, nor his written word which is the TRUTH. because he tell us how he did it, RIGHT IN HIS OWN WORD, THE BIBLE. and you don't KNOW IT, that's the problem here, "U" Don't know it, or understand how he did it. we have told you over and over, you refuse to listen, but the scriptures are true, men love darkness more than light.

now bread of life. putting all of this aside, we said that the bible tells us how he did it, can you tell us? or give us your best answer you have, as to how he run the universe and at the same time manifest in flesh as a man?

we'll be waiting for your answer if you can answer it.

PICJAG.

That's your lack of faith talking again.
YOU don't have tun know HOW God does anything.

HOW did God create the universe by simply speaking it into existence??
You don't know and don't need to know.

HOW did God create man, who has a cardiovascular system and, a brain and a complex nervous system from clay?
You don't know and don't need to know.

HOW did God become Man yet REMAIN God?
Have faith, for a change . . .

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Did you know that Mormons believe that God the Father came down in person and impregnated Mary, resulting in the birth of Jesus?

Not remotely true.

 

[Grailhunter]

The Virginity of Miriam....one of the oldest and most frequent debates among scholars.
But there is some humor to it.
Most of us would like to think that Yeshua is the Son of God.
But for the sake of everyone's beliefs, let's go with Yahweh did not cast His seed in Miriam's womb.
Her egg was not fertilized with God's seed.
So just for the fun of it, is there anyone that would like to explain the sequence in such a manner that Christ comes out
still being the true Son of God? Not created? Not Zapped? I have been debating this for years so I know the answers will be interesting. AND to spice things up a bit....keep in mind that according to the Mosaic Law, impregnating a woman betrothed to another is adultery. And then also will you a find the prophecy that foretold that?

 

[101G]

That's your lack of faith talking again.
YOU don't have tun know HOW God does anything.

HOW did God create the universe by simply speaking it into existence??
You don't know and don't need to know.

HOW did God create man, who has a cardiovascular system and, a brain and a complex nervous system from clay?
You don't know and don't need to know.

HOW did God become Man yet REMAIN God?
Have faith, for a change . . .

so we can take this as you have no answer to our question. we already knew, you had no answer. this is not about a lack of faith, that's an excuse to not knowing the truth. then you said,

HOW did God become Man yet REMAIN God?
Have faith, for a change . . .

when you ask a question like that, then we know you have no answer.
but unlike you we will give you the answer in full...... "Diversity". it's all there in that one word. so the CHANGE as you speak of is this you need to do, "RENEW YOUR MIND, or CHANGE IT".

untill you can answer how God became a man and still ran the universe while in a G2758 κενόω kenoo state in flesh, then your words are mute nothing but vain babbling.

PICJAG.

PS, if you want to know the truth, just ask......

 

[BreadOfLife]

so WE can take this as you have no answer to OUR question. WE already knew, you had no answer. this is not about a lack of faith, that's an excuse to not knowing the truth. then you said,

"We"?? "Our"??
Do you have a mouse in your pocket or is somebody else tying for you?

I answered your question.
YOU just don't like the answer . . .

when you ask a question like that, then we know you have no answer.
but unlike you we will give you the answer in full...... "Diversity". it's all there in that one word. so the CHANGE as you speak of is this you need to do, "RENEW YOUR MIND, or CHANGE IT".

untill you can answer how God became a man and still ran the universe while in a G2758 κενόω kenoo state in flesh, then your words are mute nothing but vain babbling.

PICJAG.

PS, if you want to know the truth, just ask......

And, as I said - I already answered it.
The verse is referring to the SON - not the Father or Holy Spirit.

NOT that difficult - for people of faith, that is . . .