Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Joseph77]

francis c. another false teacher now exposed.

 

[BreadOfLife]

francis c. another false teacher now exposed.

Uh huh.
Can you give me a list of "genuine" teachers?

 

[BreadOfLife]

francis c. another false teacher now exposed.

By the way - what makes the once-revered and respected Francis Chan a "false" teacher?

He was everybody's "Golden Boy" in Protestant circles - until recently . . .

 

[Joseph77]

By the way - what makes the once-revered and respected Francis Chan a "false" teacher?

His false teachings.

 

[Grailhunter]

Disagree with you.
I believe God sent Jesus with the Truth and EVENLY sent out His Disciples with the Truth.

John 20:
[21] Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.



Disagree with you.
Pss 51:
[5] Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
1 John 8:
[8] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.



You Lie. I reject your Lie.



I have no interest in "your ministry".



I have not expressed hate toward anyone, condemned anyone, or slandered God.
You Lie.



Hyprocrite! Okay for you to disagree but should Another disagree,"Your ministry", is Johnny on the spot, to attempt assassinate an others character with Lies.

ass ass-inate away...it reveals much about you.

So you say you do not hate, judge, and condemn? And I will call you on it as we go. Satan cannot hide his character, you will not be able to help yourself.

 

[Joseph77]

Uh huh.
Can you give me a list of "genuine" teachers?

(1) God
(2) Jesus
(3) Apostle John
(4) Apostle Peter
(5) Apostle Paul...
...
...
and all the others with these who are divinely appointed "genuine" teachers who reject anti-christ and demonic doctrines always.

(nnn) Martin Luther
(nnn+1) Charles Chiniquoy
(nnn+2) Keith Green ...

 

[Joseph77]

So you say you do not hate, judge, and condemn? And I will call you on it as we go.

Without Knowing Scripture nor the Power of God, how could you ever judge rightly, unless you also repent first ?

 

[Taken]

I know - I was simply pointing out the two biggest blunders in your last post . . .

Well that is your opinion, which for me, does not NOT hold water.

I believe the siblings identified as Jesus' siblings, with Jesus' mother, are Jesus' siblings with their mother.

You call that a blunder, while your own church teaches, they were Joseph's children from a previous marriage...which if that "were" the case, by law, would make Joseph's wife, the mother of his children.

IDK, perhaps your church teaches Mary and Joseph were never married.

As far as Moses,
Moses went to the mountain top, in Moab.
God showed Moses Abraham's promised land.
Moses would not enter the Land.
Moses died.
God buried Moses in the Valley, in Moab,
(Perhaps the Israelites were psychic...because the Knew Moeses had died, where he was buried, who buried Moses, and Moses' age at death)...
Then the Israelites Mourned Moses for thirty days in the plains of Moab.

You try to find the stupidest things to argue about...Taught out of your doctrine, that has Nothing whatsoever to do with Glorifying God.

Go make yourself another blue ribbon, as if you think you have won another game.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

More than that, the Heavenly Father, ACCORDING to the BIBLE, REVEALS Salvation, and Everything concerning Salvation, TO LITTLE CHILDREN.

i.e. (never opposed to Scripture, never contradictory) God the Creator reveals -- "Ananias and Saphira lied to God"... and so forth, to whomever He is well pleased to reveal it to.... as written - REVELATION EXPERIENTIAL KNOWLEDGE - all through or in harmony with all Scripture also - He has REVEALED things to His Prophets, as written, and to His People, through Jesus Christ, as He Pleases.

Our Wisdom is Jesus.
Our Knowledge is Jesus.
Our Redemption is Jesus.
Our Light is Jesus.

Jesus is our all in all, completely and totally as written in the Bible. (i.e. not dependent on man, nor on the things of the flesh)

Of course it is more Detailed than that.
Scriptural knowledge is full of the Details.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Grailhunter]

Without Knowing Scripture nor the Power of God, how could you ever judge rightly, unless you also repent first ?

The footprints of Satan are unmistakable. The stench of hate and condemnation. Contempt for that which is good. You have the spotlight, now lets see you dance.

 

[Joseph77]

The Revelation of the Father when we are walking with Him as Adam and Chavah (Eve) walked with Him in the Garden,
and as the Apostles and disciples walked with Jesus
and as the martyr in Foxes Book of Martyrs, for all the centuries walked with Him,
is direct revelation in our spirits (not our minds), as written, and
not from reading , study, or so forth -
same as when the two on the road to Emmaus suddenly had their eyes opened...
and same as when Stephen and Philip learned what to do without a man telling them,
etc etc etc ...

Of course it is more Detailed than that.
Scriptural knowledge is full of the Details.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Joseph77]

I won't walk in those, your footprints, which you and your cohorts love and are deceived by ,
no more than Jesus would ,
nor any of His sheep --- we Hear Jesus' Voice, and follow Him.
If you want to, now is the time to turn to Him.

The footprints of Satan are unmistakable.

 

[Taken]

So you say you do not hate, judge, and condemn? And I will call you on it as we go. Satan cannot hide his character, you will not be able to help yourself.

Do as you choose.
Doesn't effect me..."we" are not going anywhere.
You might consider your time and effort would be better spent in the Word of God, rather than following men around, hoping to find satan.

BY the way...I said nothing about Judging!
(You made that up)

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Grailhunter]

Do as you choose.
Doesn't effect me..."we" are not going anywhere.
You might consider your time and effort would be better spent in the Word of God, rather than following men around, hoping to find satan.

Glory to God,
Taken

Not hard to find. His stench precedes him. Do you preach brotherly love? Do you preach compassion? Do you greet your fellow Christians? What do you got to say? Let us all see your character.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Well that is your opinion, which for me, does not NOT hold water.

I believe the siblings identified as Jesus' siblings, with Jesus' mother, are Jesus' siblings with their mother.

You call that a blunder, while your own church teaches, they were Joseph's children from a previous marriage...which if that "were" the case, by law, would make Joseph's wife, the mother of his children.

IDK, perhaps your church teaches Mary and Joseph were never married.

As far as Moses,
Moses went to the mountain top, in Moab.
God showed Moses Abraham's promised land.
Moses would not enter the Land.
Moses died.
God buried Moses in the Valley, in Moab,
(Perhaps the Israelites were psychic...because the Knew Moeses had died, where he was buried, who buried Moses, and Moses' age at death)...
Then the Israelites Mourned Moses for thirty days in the plains of Moab.

You try to find the stupidest things to argue about...Taught out of your doctrine, that has Nothing whatsoever to do with Glorifying God.

Go make yourself another blue ribbon, as if you think you have won another game.

Glory to God,
Taken

Caught you in yet another LIE. MY Church doesn't teach what you're claiming in RED.
And, by the way - YOU claimed that the Bible indicated that Mary was their mother. The Bible does NOT state this.

Your second LIE in RED , - about Moses is something you will have to prove.
The Israelites NEVER knew where Moses was buried.

I want Chapter and Verse for your moronic claim . . .

 

[Joseph77]

MARY WORSHIP? A Study of Catholic Practice and Doctrine

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]BIBLICAL MARY

CATHOLIC MARY

THE GODDESS[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Humble and obedient. Calls herself “the handmaid of the Lord.”

The Pope officially gave Mary the title “Queen of Heaven” and established a feast day honoring Mary, Queen of Heaven.

Wiccans call their goddess the “Queen of Heaven."
Knew she needed a savior: “And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my saviour.” (Luke 1:47)

“Immaculate Conception” (Mary was conceived sinless, without original sin) and “All-Holy” (Mary lived a sinless life).

Goddesses don't need salvation. They make the rules.
Normal wife and mother who had other children.

“Perpetual Virginity” (Jesus' brothers and sisters are considered to be cousins).

Goddesses don't have human children.
No biblical evidence that Mary didn't die like a normal person.

“Glorious Assumption” (Mary was bodily taken up into Heaven).

Goddesses don't die.[/FONT]​

 

[BreadOfLife]

(1) God
(2) Jesus
(3) Apostle John
(4) Apostle Peter
(5) Apostle Paul...
...
...
and all the others with these who are divinely appointed "genuine" teachers who reject anti-christ and demonic doctrines always.

(nnn) Martin Luther
(nnn+1) Charles Chiniquoy
(nnn+2) Keith Green ...

Sooooo you actually believe that Martin Luther, Charles Chiniquoy and Keith Green were "divinely appointed" genuine teachers??
Good grief . . .

I take it that you're a Vineyard Fellowship adherent??

 

[BreadOfLife]

MARY WORSHIP? A Study of Catholic Practice and Doctrine

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]BIBLICAL MARY

CATHOLIC MARY

THE GODDESS
Humble and obedient. Calls herself “the handmaid of the Lord.”

The Pope officially gave Mary the title “Queen of Heaven” and established a feast day honoring Mary, Queen of Heaven.

Wiccans call their goddess the “Queen of Heaven."
Knew she needed a savior: “And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my saviour.” (Luke 1:47)

“Immaculate Conception” (Mary was conceived sinless, without original sin) and “All-Holy” (Mary lived a sinless life).

Goddesses don't need salvation. They make the rules.
Normal wife and mother who had other children.

“Perpetual Virginity” (Jesus' brothers and sisters are considered to be cousins).

Goddesses don't have human children.
No biblical evidence that Mary didn't die like a normal person.

“Glorious Assumption” (Mary was bodily taken up into Heaven).

Goddesses don't die.[/FONT]​

CAUTION:
Jack Chick comic books rot your brain.

The nonsense you've posted has been debunked DOZENS of times over. "Pagan goddesses", Semiramis" "Osirus", yada, yada yada . . .
It ALL started with Alexander Hislop, was carried over by Lorainne Boettner - and perpetuated by Jack Chick.

Play a new recpord . . .

 

[Joseph77]

MARY WORSHIP? A Study of Catholic Practice and Doctrine

 

[Joseph77]

Sooooo

You all have rejected or ignored (1) (2) (3) (4) and (5) also, since , well, all of your lives.... and your 'church' cannot stand to have the truth presented, can it~!