I don't know Dave Hunt and I don't care what he thinks. He's not the leader (or former leader) of any organization I claim. Of course you can't say the same about Benedict or Francis..... This thread is about the Pope, so who is deflecting, redirecting and trying to change the subject? My comments are again, about a lack of discernment when it comes to 'clinging' on to certain teachers or leaders because they have what -Likeability? Charisma? Positional Authority? None of that matters a lick.
Don't change the subject.
Details of "the subject" is in post #15, which you deflected from twice, and made no reply to it. You don't want to talk about the pope, you want to bash the pope.
If someone doesn’t like my (or anyone else’s) defenses of the pope (and to me the defenses are perfectly plausible and sensible), they can go and knock themselves out showing that they are invalid, point-by-point.
But no one ever wants to do that, because that takes work and actual thinking, rather than the easy way out of the quick accusation, moaning and groaning, simply parroting the gossip of others, and furthering the false narrative about the Holy Father. Anything but actual rational analysis and interacting with different points of view.
My comments are again, about a lack of discernment when it comes to 'clinging' on to certain teachers or leaders because they have what -Likeability? Charisma? Positional Authority?
Pope Francis is a humble and holy man, and admits he is a sinner. But that is not good enough for people with an axe to grind.
Lack of discernment? Either you are grossly misinformed, or just another brain damaged anti-Catholic bigot. I'll give you the benefit of doubt and go with the former.
Pope Francis cannot deny the existence of hell without directly contradicting the teaching of the Church. But he can create confusion, and he has done so I document the crystal-clear views of Pope Francis with regard to the existence of an eternal hell of punishment, and of Satan (the devil /...
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237 articles by Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong in defense of Pope Francis, & also with regard to how we ought to respectfully approach popes, generally speaking.
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I offer no particular argument here; mostly it is a rant or "jeremiad" against the anti-Francis mentality, which I am in a position to comment on, having defended Pope Francis all along.
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Pope Francis condemned political cults of personality and said mature democracies must ensure the rule of law prevails over political interests, in what was widely interpreted as a condemnation of populism. “The development of a democratic consciousness demands that emphasis on individual...
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What is
stupid is (for whoever does this) to not read a paragraph, to make
any attempt to
understand the basic point that the pope is making before lashing out at him in public, with many people making fools of themselves. That is STUPID: S, T, U, P, I, D. It is on the level of basic interpretation of words, and (far more tragically) in terms of spreading a scandal that is no scandal at all: making Catholics look totally ridiculous, as if we can’t read.
What I call “dumb and stupid” is this particular practice of not even reading properly, and then going out and saying asinine things about the Holy Father. It has to stop, and soon. If people don’t protest against it it will continue to get worse.
It’s way out of hand already. The “rabbits” fiasco is perhaps the most ridiculous I’ve seen yet: in a long string of these ludicrous tempests in a teapot. The devil is laughing so hard over the stupidity of Catholics doing this again and again, that he must be crying and wetting his pants (if he wears them). It’s one of the most ingenious plots he has devised yet, to divide Catholics and make us look ridiculous to the world.