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Ronald Nolette

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The real evidence is not available to the public...that is just the point. The public are not informed, but rather misinformed about the truth...it is hidden under the propaganda and the real agenda that will take this world inexorably to its final conclusion.

Well then how did you get it??????

The j@b is not ‘the mark of the beast’ but I believe it is one component (an experiment) in a scheme to take us there. The goal is totalitarian control and its coming.....no one can stop it. The eighth king of Revelation will reign for a short period of time before Jesus brings down the curtain on satan’s world. (Revelation 17:11-14)

As I believe as well! but as it is not the mark- it is not sin.

If you do not see who is controlling everything behind the scenes, (1 John 5:19) then you will not understand what has been taking place in the medical world since the early part of last century. It has been a slow and gradual hijacking that has replaced real medicine with artificial substances derived from plants in order to make people feel better......not to cure them.
Since the drug companies cannot patent a plant, they will synthesise a component of a plant and patent that, then they own that synthetic counterfeit and can charge what they like for it.......it’s symptom control without cure, ensuring the best business model imaginable. Like undertakers...they would never be out of business.

Well I know satan is the god of this world, and I know that doctors and hospitals and nurses still do a world of good! All medications are nothing more than synthesized versions of natural compounds. I remember people telling me to take real vitamin c from citrus fruit. The vitamin C was better than a pill. then I learned that the body doesn't recognize the difference between natural and synthesized ascorbic acid.

but if you feel I am so blind- why don't you show me what has been happening. No one can research everything. I fyou have evidence that this jab is part of some centuries long conspiracy to control the world, I am all ears.


Who trains doctors in their medical practice? The system that teaches doctors is funded and controlled by the ones that manufactures the drugs, and teaches them how to write prescriptions.....that is what medicine became. But much of it isn’t real medicine....the system is a fraud.

Well If I name 20 medical schools and hospitals that are teaching hospitals, you can show me whgich drug company is controllong wha tteh doctors are learning?

And what are we looking at now in hospitals across the world? Super bugs that no anti-biotic can fix....immune to all attempts to kill them.....didn’t science know the nature of bacteria and viruses? Didn’t they know that this would happen? But the quick fix and money to be made...who cared?

Many did and tried to warn. But viruses and biotics, mutate. they adapt the fastest of all life on earth! So if an antibiotic doesn't kill them, they survive, adapt and grow! I learned that in biology in 1970 in high school!

Why does it cost drug companies so much money to produce their drugs? Nature provides so much natural medicine, but these cannot be patented so the money is spent trying to invent something similar so that they can make their huge profits.

Well holisitc medicines or "natural medicines" do get patented all the time! But as they are not FDA approved, they cannot be called medicines. But as we cannot grow 2,000,000 acres of elderberries to meet the need of hundreds of millions,( as well as hundreds of other natural medicines), medicine researched, learned to synthesize these things and ended up saving tens of millions of lives over the decades! the world cannot even feed itself! How much of that farm land do you want to give up to grow natural substances, that still need experts to make them a medicine. Can you take mold and turn it into penicillin??

Why does it cost so much? Because when they do the research and start creating a synthesized medication, they go through enormous amounts of trials and protocols and reporting to govt. sources. First they do research, try various combinations, theorize on their lethality, go into animal testing. Reformulate if needed, retry, and if good, proceed to teh next set of trials and repeat teh process all over again!

Bet you didn't know that a drug company canaqnd do often enough, are get a med ready to present to the authorities for approval, when the last trial falls apart and they have to trash it all and start all over again. by that point because of all the red tape and legal requirements, a drug company may have spent over $1,000,000,000 and it all goes down the toilet and they may have to start from scratch.

I nthe 1800's and early 1900's pharamcists had to use mortar and pestle to grind the meds they sold. Too often they didn't get it quite right and people got very sick from the meds a pharmacist was trying to cure them with.


What about the hand sanitizers that people are using now to supposedly combat C19? Don’t they know what these will do to the bacteria that lives on skin? Our whole system works on bacteria and relies on it’s balance to function normally. Killing the good bacteria along with the bad is just asking for trouble. Same with Chemotherapy.....it kills everything, but the ‘good guys’ are necessary for recovery.

Yes we need good bacteris, but bad bacteria if not treated will kill teh host along with the good bacteria!

As for chemo and radiation therapy? There are millions who are grateful for the research they did. Yes it is a race and the doctors are learning more and more how to make sure they don't kill the patient with the cure. and if they ever find cures for the most virulent cancers, radio and chemo therapy will be things of the past like many other medicines and therapies that died as better methods were discovered by those evil researchers.
Cannabis is a prime example of this. A plant that people can grow in their own gardens at home to make effective medicine for a multitude of ailments for free....and yet look what these evil companies did to demonise this wonderful medicine.....it has been shown to cure cancer without having to have your bald head in a toilet, throwing up, and you looking like a refugee from Auschwitz in the process.
Robbed of all your money, tortured beyond comprehension, and then you die anyway...if not straight away, then some years down the track, it is sure to come back and they will just repeat the process.
The only effective way to combat cancer is by enhancing your immune system.....chemo kills it. Imagine all the suffering and death that could have been alleviated if people had been given access to this plant...?

Wrong! Cannabis has very very very very limited curative benefits. It has many palliative benefits. For cancer patients, it won't cure cancer or reduce or slow it down, but it will reduce the side effectsa of the radiation and chemo therapy. YOu are just wrong. I had a dear friend who had thyroid cancer and he went through all the research on cannibis.
 

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Wrong! Cannabis has very very very very limited curative benefits. It has many palliative benefits. For cancer patients, it won't cure cancer or reduce or slow it down, but it will reduce the side effectsa of the radiation and chemo therapy. YOu are just wrong. I had a dear friend who had thyroid cancer and he went through all the research on cannibis.

Actually, you are wrong with what you’ve said here.

Study Reviews How Marijuana Compounds Inhibit Tumor Growth And Kill Cancer Cells
 

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Saving lives is in their best interests....but the ones they save will have to be on medications for the rest of whatever, with many trying to live with awful side effects. I know so many....

Well I tell you what, when you go into debt to feed the homeless for saving their lives is in your best interest, then I will believe you. I don't know how old you are, but in case you never learned, doctors and medicines cannot save everybody, and a hospital cannot afford to spend millions of dollars on people who can't pay and are unisnsured and stay afloat to save countless other lives. Drug companies cannot afford to spend billions of dollars they cannot recoup for all sorts of meds and stay in business to help the millions of others!

but I find it very ironic that here you are, a big mouthpiece against drug companies, and now you are complaining because they haven't done enough with their man made medicines. How many natural medicines are you growing?

And that is what perpetuates the insurance/medical fraud that blights your medical system. If all pay a small amount so that the majority are never without health care...how is that unconstitutional? I don’t understand....

It is called the American constitution. States and towns can have universal coverage. the federal govt. cannot! but just one historic fact. Insurance is a fairly new idea, less than a century old! the labor movement in America popularized it. but given teh mess the govt. has made of medicare and medicaid? N o thanks! I prefer my own private insurer who I have through my former employer!

No, I look at them quite differently, I can assure you. Most doctors are trained like seals....they only know one kind of “medicine” and others are trained to assist them in that modus operandi. That is what they believe the practice of “medicine” is. They have been taught that natural or alternative medicine is a fraud.....when I believe that they are the frauds. I have had way more success with much less stress on my body using what nature provides than any artificial chemical concoctions, which always made me sicker.

Well my primary care physician believes in a holistic approach! I can list many others. And I await you to cite me one medical textbook that teaches doctors to think of natural cures is a fraud!

so I take it you no longer go to these trained seals? Or is that just an insult you set aside when you need medical treatment.

Have you seen what is happening in Japan....they said no to the j@bs and are using the preventative medications.....and are now are the least affected by C19.

So I await you to cite where you got this info so we may all learn. For every website I saw shows did not agree with you . They did not substitute ivermectin for the vaccinations.

/www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/covid-19-vaccination-tracker/

As of 12/28/21 over 99,000,000 Japanese or 78% of the population has been vaccinated with one of the four approved vaccines!

Don’t get me started again about chemo and radiation......especially the children....

Dana-Farber, St. Jude and the shriners hospitals for children as well as hundreds of thousands of grateful parents testify against your animosity.

Vitamins and supplements would not even be necessary if we ate good food....our bodies would absorb all the necessary nutrients from what we eat.....but the system we live in does not operate that way......wasn’t it Socrates who said....”let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food”. And doesn’t the Hypocratic Oath state: “first of all do no harm”? How does modern medicine fit those very important truths?

So until we reach that perfect world of yours, what are you suggesting? Diet mandates with diet police? Let the less than healthy eaters all die!?
What is your solution in the real world over 7,800,000,000 live in where over 3,500,000,000 barely get a subsistence diet?


“first of all do no harm”? How does modern medicine fit those very important truths?

well with your extremsit implications, you would end all surgery! for in order to do good, they first must do harm. they must take a super sharp knife and cut your skin, muscle and sometime bone to do good. So away with all surgery for they do harm first!
 

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Well I learned something here.

In vitro cancer cells appeared (repeat APPEARED ) to slow their gfrowth and it inhibited certain cancer cells in mice, but not people yet. this looks proimising and I hope it works in humans as it does with cancer cells in petri dishes and in mice! These early clinical trials look promising!
 
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Well I learned something here.

In vitro cancer cells appeared (repeat APPEARED ) to slow their gfrowth and it inhibited certain cancer cells in mice, but not people yet. this looks proimising and I hope it works in humans as it does with cancer cells in petri dishes and in mice! These early clinical trials look promising!

Hah! You agreed with me that time! :p:D
 
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@Ronald Nolette

The head of the WHO said
"Some countries are using boosters to kill children which is wrong"


So i ask again... Do you justify such
atrocities or do you do what you have been doing... Ignoring it?
 
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Bobby Jo

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Well I cannot and will not argue the politics and controversy surrounding this pandemic, for I agree with you and most others here that the government and Fauci and Collins, the WHO<FDC<NIH are a bunch of meglomaniacal boobs.

but as I have been saying repeatedly now ad-nauseum, HCQ, combined with AZT, ivermectin have shown to have some very positive palliative properties in covid patients when caught prior to symptoms manifesting! However the limited studies available and clinical trials have shown that hcq, and ivermectin are near useless to aid a covid patient once symptoms develop.

I have seen lots of anecdotal evidence, but we cannot base societal decisions on anecdotal unverified evidence. Like the post above.

Hydroxychloroquine is effective, and consistently so when provided early, for COVID-19: a systematic review (nih.gov)

This study reported on in November 2020 showed great hope and promise, but further trials showed it to not hold consistently.

As for the full safety of hcq:

From the manufacturers web site

Hydroxychloroquine
Common brand names: Plaquenil
  • OVERVIEW
  • SIDE EFFECTS
  • INTERACTIONS
  • DOSAGE





Tell your doctor right away if you have any serious side effects, including

  • Arm/leg/back pain
  • Slow/fast/irregular heartbeat
  • Symptoms of heart failure
  • Hair loss/color change
  • Mental/mood changes
  • Ringing in the ears/hearing loss
  • Worsening of skin conditions
  • Severe stomach/abdominal pain
  • Severe nausea/vomiting
  • Easy bleeding/bruising
  • Signs of infection
  • Dark urine
  • Yellowing eyes/skin


This medication may rarely cause serious eye problems or muscle/nerve damage, especially if you take it for a long time. Get medical help right away if you have any very serious side effects, including

  • Sensitivity to light
  • Vision changes
  • Muscle weakness
  • Numbness/tingling/pain of the arms/legs


Get medical help right away if you have any very serious side effects, including

  • Chest pain
  • Fainting
  • Seizures


A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is rare. However, get medical help right away if you notice any symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, including

  • Rash
  • Itching/swelling
  • Dizziness
  • Trouble breathing


Other things to note

  • Nausea, stomach cramps, loss of appetite, diarrhea, dizziness, or headache may occur. If any of these effects persist or worsen, notify your doctor or pharmacist promptly.
  • This medication may rarely cause low blood sugar . Tell your doctor right away if you develop symptoms of low blood sugar, such as sudden sweating, shaking, fast heartbeat, hunger, blurred vision, dizziness, or tingling hands/feet. If you have diabetes, be sure to check your blood sugars regularly. Your doctor may need to adjust your diabetes medication.

I have severe widespread arthritis and my PCP will not prescribe me this because I also have a-fib and the risk is elevated I could die!
 

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I have severe widespread arthritis and my PCP will not prescribe me this because I also have a-fib and the risk is elevated I could die!
It seems you're trying to "speed-it-up" with the Vax and Boosters, -- but we all get to choose.

Good Luck.
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It seems you're trying to "speed-it-up" with the Vax and Boosters, -- but we all get to choose.

Good Luck.
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Well what you think it seems like is wrong! I am just quoting the facts as done by research, data collection, trials etc.

My original statements still stand. and I will repeat it here as you seem to not have read them the already many times I have wrote them.

1. I am not against the vaccine, nor am I slobberingly in favor it. It is a medication that is doing the job the manufacturers said it would do in the percentages they said it would. they have close to 200,000,000 "jabbed" as a data base.

2. I am against mandates. I think every single person should decide after talking with their doctor and/or pharmacist. I wish it was a one shot vaccine like shingles or polio but it is not.

3. States and towns and employers, but NOT the federal government have the constitutional authority (as of now) to mandate shots like this.

4. I suspect the covid virus will be like the flu- getting a covid shot annually like the flu shot!

5. And to add as none of you ever bothered to ask me- I think teh government and the CDC>NIH<FDA<WHO< Fauci and Collins have botched this terribly, some due to their own ignorance and incompetence and some because of power grab. Especially Fauci when he came out and said that to disagree with him is to disagree with science.

If these five things make me in league with th edevil as several of you accused me of---so be it!
 

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Well what you think it seems like is wrong! I am just quoting the facts as done by research, data collection, trials etc.

My original statements still stand. and I will repeat it here as you seem to not have read them the already many times I have wrote them.

1. I am not against the vaccine, nor am I slobberingly in favor it. It is a medication that is doing the job the manufacturers said it would do in the percentages they said it would. they have close to 200,000,000 "jabbed" as a data base.

2. I am against mandates. I think every single person should decide after talking with their doctor and/or pharmacist. I wish it was a one shot vaccine like shingles or polio but it is not.

3. States and towns and employers, but NOT the federal government have the constitutional authority (as of now) to mandate shots like this.

4. I suspect the covid virus will be like the flu- getting a covid shot annually like the flu shot!

5. And to add as none of you ever bothered to ask me- I think teh government and the CDC>NIH<FDA<WHO< Fauci and Collins have botched this terribly, some due to their own ignorance and incompetence and some because of power grab. Especially Fauci when he came out and said that to disagree with him is to disagree with science.

If these five things make me in league with th edevil as several of you accused me of---so be it!

No, the reason people say your abetting the evil one is because you ignore or justify the following
1 - Censorship of free speech, drugs, experts and the like
2 - The forcing of needles through criminal acts such as coercion, blackmail, bribery, ransom and such
3 - Vax death and disability
4 - Discrimination against the unvaxed
The promotion of needles equals the direct promotion of those evil things and thats what you appear to be doing


We agree that its been botched... You think that its more due to incompetence... We think its more due to malevolence.

Ok fine, so whats your argument main anyway?
My main argument is against the 4 points above. I ant to be left in peace by the government. I think thats that main concern of most of us
If you agree with that, like you claim to, then what are you exactly opposing us about?
 

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No, the reason people say your abetting the evil one is because you ignore or justify the following
1 - Censorship of free speech, drugs, experts and the like
2 - The forcing of needles through criminal acts such as coercion, blackmail, bribery, ransom and such
3 - Vax death and disability
4 - Discrimination against the unvaxed
The promotion of needles equals the direct promotion of those evil things and thats what you appear to be doing


We agree that its been botched... You think that its more due to incompetence... We think its more due to malevolence.

Ok fine, so whats your argument main anyway?
My main argument is against the 4 points above. I ant to be left in peace by the government. I think thats that main concern of most of us
If you agree with that, like you claim to, then what are you exactly opposing us about?
Such a one would easy become a Nazi or a Communist in my books.

We are standing on very thin ice nowadays, these people are delusional not to mention a disgrace to abide in such devilish tactics. Such people have no excuse at all, I even feel for the Nazis that they had cause because they had been run through the mill badly to be enticed to such, but we have history all before us to understand the workings of such trash. That we truly have no excuse at all what soever.

We must call such as them out on it all ! for they are a total disgrace.
 

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Such a one would easy become a Nazi or a Communist in my books.

We are standing on very thin ice nowadays, these people are delusional not to mention a disgrace to abide in such devilish tactics. Such people have no excuse at all, I even feel for the Nazis that they had cause because they had been run through the mill badly to be enticed to such, but we have history all before us to understand the workings of such trash. That we truly have no excuse at all what soever.

We must call such as them out on it all ! for they are a total disgrace.

And some of them speak with forked tongues...
They will say they don't support censorship, forced needles and discrimination but everything else they say does support it
 

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We vote the latter: "the toxic concoctions themselves".

Bobby Jo & ELAM :rolleyes:

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Good thing then that the covid "vaccine" is not given intravenously! but if you looked past these narrow minded folks ( and I am not talking about the narrow minded we need to follow Jesus), then you would know that 95% of the hospitalizations over the past year occur among the unvaxxed.

I know! My daughter has to report on covid patients to the state! And they segragate between teh "vaxxed" and the unvaxxed" that is the law.

Close to 3,000,000,000 people have been given shots globally. IN America over 400,000,000 doses have been given. the number of serious reactions (more harmful than just adverse), hospitalizations from the shot, and deaths directly attributed to the medication is less than .00065%. If I had those odds, I would empty my bank account for that bet.

What most people do not realize about the VAERS reporting system is that the numbers published are simply the raw uninvestigated numbers. If someone dies in a car wreck and had been vaxxed two days earlier, he goes in teh system. Once the data is vetted, that person is removed. same with people hospitalized. If vaxxed they go into the numbers, if found that the shot is not directly responsible for the conditions that hospitalized them are removed.

(It is sads that believers take half truths and then run with them.
 

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What most people do not realize about the VAERS reporting system is that ....

... only a SMALL percentage of the injured are being reported, -- by INTENTIONAL OMISSION.


But some individuals either haven't figured out that our Government, Main Stream Media, and Social Media is COVERING UP THE TRUTH; or these same individuals have their own DISHONEST AGENDA. But either way, we are being lied to.

And the PROOF is that Nobel Prize winners, Renown Physicians, Acknowledged Subject Matter Experts, and even Coroners and Morticians are being SILENCED, CENSORED, SLANDERED, DEFAMED, FIRED, and BANNED, -- INCLUDING PRESIDENT TRUMP. But the LIARS speak without any consequence in spite of overwhelming EVIDENCE of the TRUTH.

Rev. 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


There's a fearful penalty, and those in the "church" will not be exempt.
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