Vaccine Adverse Effects

[Ronald Nolette]

Thanks for verifying what “was” Suspect “is” Confirmed by your TOXIC rant.

Well these are shoes that fit you well!

You are writing conclusions based on conspiracy hypotheses that are not true. Believe it or not I am not a must getvaxxed person. I believe each person should decide based on their deciding with their doctor.

But you sound very whiny in your rants.
you subtly are very judgmental. I call you in it as a brother who cares.

 

[Taken]

Well these are shoes that fit you well!

You are writing conclusions based on conspiracy hypotheses that are not true.

And exactly what “conclusion” are you again repeating, without expressly Identifying WHAT Conspiracy hypotheses Specifically “YOU” are talking about?

Believe it or not I am not a must getvaxxed person. I believe each person should decide based on their deciding with their doctor.

Eh...

But you sound very whiny in your rants.
you subtly are very judgmental. I call you in it as a brother who cares.

LOL...amazing, the sound of my voice revealed in ink!
Seems your eyes have missed seeing your own judgmental accusations....How handy!

So what is this “not true conspiracy hypotheses” you are whining about?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

And exactly what “conclusion” are you again repeating, without expressly Identifying WHAT Conspiracy hypotheses Specifically “YOU” are talking about?



Eh...



LOL...amazing, the sound of my voice revealed in ink!
Seems your eyes have missed seeing your own judgmental accusations....How handy!

So what is this “not true conspiracy hypotheses” you are whining about?

Well if I have time I wil go back and list more but the big one is that:

The shot doesn't work. People call it a vaccine because it is administered just like a vaccine- via a shot. big Deal. Yes it technically is not a vaccine, but a simple medication administered by injection and it works as it was advertised to work! And yes a small % of people are experiencing side effects as they said could and probably happen. That is the big conspiracy.

As for your judgmentalism? By saying you follow Christ by not taking a shot, you are looking down your nose at people who do! I do not think you ignorant and if I wrote that especially with teh dollw up of "following men" as you did- that is being very judgmental and making your self seem superior to others based on taking or not taking a medicine.

 

[Taken]

Well if I have time I wil go back and list more but the big one is that:

The shot doesn't work.

I didn’t say that.

People call it a vaccine because

I didn’t say that.

it is administered just like a vaccine- via a shot.

I did say it is administered as a shot.

That is the big conspiracy.

big Deal. Yes it technically is not a vaccine, but a simple medication administered by injection and it works as it was advertised to work! And yes a small % of people are experiencing side effects as they said could and probably happen.

That is the big conspiracy. ^ That is you speaking, not me.

So the BIG CONSPIRACY IS...I said the it is administered as a shot?
LOL....WOW...

You should learn to use the QUOTE feature, so you do not have to rewrite in your words what people do NOT say.

As for your judgmentalism?
By saying you follow Christ by not taking a shot,

I did not say that.

you are looking down your nose at people who do!

....making your self seem superior to others based on taking or not taking a medicine.

I am not responsible for you NOT QUOTING me and not responding to what I actually say, and INSTEAD say what I did not say, and your responding to me about what I did not say.
I am not responsible for HOW YOU FEEL.

It was pretty much settled, you elected to take the SHOT, so IF you became ill, is wouldn’t be AS SEVERE.
It is of no concern to me, “IF” I should become ill.

 

[Cristo Rei]

The stupid jabs are killing and disabling way more people than covid...
This is all planned by the evil one and many morons are still abetting him...

 

[Cristo Rei]

Indignation of the vaccination

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The stupid jabs are killing and disabling way more people than covid...
This is all planned by the evil one and many morons are still abetting him...

Well it will be informative if you rpovide your empirical and substantiated evidence to support such an allegation.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

As for your judgmentalism?
By saying you follow Christ by not taking a shot,

I did not say that.

Yes you did say this. Maybe not in the exact words, but it only takes an IQ of about 2 to know what you were saying!
Yor post 114 says it all.

Unless of course you went way off topic and didn't inform anybody you decided to speak of something we are not addressing here.

Even if that is the case- it shows your spiritual snobbery and judgmentalism.

 

[Taken]

As for your judgmentalism?
By saying you follow Christ by not taking a shot,

I did not say that.

Yes you did say this. Maybe not in the exact words, but it only takes an IQ of about 2 to know what you were saying!
Yor post 114 says it all.

Unless of course you went way off topic and didn't inform anybody you decided to speak of something we are not addressing here.

Even if that is the case- it shows your spiritual snobbery and judgmentalism.

Ron~
I’ll speak for myself.
I don’t recall giving you authority to interpret what I say into YOUR words.
Perhaps an IQ of 2 is not enough to comprehend that a person you disagree with, overall makes you the worst candidate to interpret what the other says.

BTW Ron, if you FEEL spiritually inferior, already told you, I’m not accountable for YOUR feelings, however I do understand some people make “themselves” FEEL better by hurling personal accusations at others.
Just so you know...that tactic gets a pass for only so long before it becomes a laughable trait.

 

[Cristo Rei]

The toxic injection is not my saviour

Jesus Christ is my saviour

 

[Cristo Rei]

Well it will be informative if you rpovide your empirical and substantiated evidence to support such an allegation.

You've surely seen the numbers from VAERS and yet your still in denial of the deaths and disabilities...
Even just one death is enough to stop forcing these syringes and stop discriminating against the unjabbed...
Yet they're still doing that while erroneously claiming thats its "safe and effective"

Here is the VAERS report as of 19th of November...
With only 1% being claimed to be reported that can be up to 2 million deaths in America, 2 million more life threatening events and many more disabled
A fair extrapolation given no one is keeping accurate data on this. They're all turning a blind eye. Head in the sand



Myocarditis/pericarditis were rare conditions... Only 600 new cases were being reported a year in America...
Now, there are 14,000 cases reported from these experimental needles that don't even work... Actual figure anywhere up to 1.4 million

So what are you going to say now?
Keep denying?
Or change the goal posts of your argument to try and justify the deaths and injuries?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You've surely seen the numbers from VAERS and yet your still in denial of the deaths and disabilities...
Even just one death is enough to stop forcing these syringes and stop discriminating against the unjabbed...
Yet they're still doing that while erroneously claiming thats its "safe and effective"

Let me ask you this, do you feel this way about every single medication? Or just the covid shot.

And if you have bothered to read my post I was and still am not in favor of "FORCING" the jab on anyone. Medically speaking as in comparison to other meds- it is safe and effective like other meds.

There are alot of adverse reactions- there are lots of people with covid and lots of people who have been vaccinated globally and nationally.

Based on the VAERS site itself, I showed you the 5 of people with adverse effects versus total shots administered. It falls in the level of more safer medications requiring approval. It is not a ssafe as tylenol or aspirin or scores of other prescription meds, but it safer than lots and lots and lots of meds, especially meds used to treat virulent diseases as the novel covid19 virus is now proven to be.

800,000+ deaths in teh US and over 5,400,000 deaths world wide makes it a virulent disease.

And just remember that the deaths reported to taking the shot have not been proven by autopsy. The count of verified deaths is less than 25.

So according to your feelings of the covid shot and one death is too may, should we suspend all medications that have on edeath attributed to them?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Ron~
I’ll speak for myself.
I don’t recall giving you authority to interpret what I say into YOUR words.
Perhaps an IQ of 2 is not enough to comprehend that a person you disagree with, overall makes you the worst candidate to interpret what the other says.

BTW Ron, if you FEEL spiritually inferior, already told you, I’m not accountable for YOUR feelings, however I do understand some people make “themselves” FEEL better by hurling personal accusations at others.
Just so you know...that tactic gets a pass for only so long before it becomes a laughable trait.

Well I don't feel spiritually inferior by any stretch of the imagination so that is moot.

I already starting laughing at you trait! LOL

But here are our words form #114:

"Going BACK to a Biblical Principle...
It is YOUR OPTION to “follow men”.
It is MY OPTION to “follow Christ”.
I have NO REQUIREMENT to “follow you, do as you do, of do as men of the WORLD DICTATE, simply because they sit in position, power and wealth.”
IF you are Content, you will suffer less...BECAUSE you received multiple JABS, it makes no matter to me.
IF “I” may at some point “suffer more than you”....(or any other person)...
And “I AM NOT CONCERNED” ... Don’t BE Concerned “FOR ME”....
I have zero trust, in the positioned, power, wealthy OF the world, and their pretense of “Concern” for the well being of the People at large.
* YOU can choose all day long, TO put your Trust, as you see fit."

this is not me but you displaying your spiritual snobbery! Your implications are as subtly as a 100 megaton hydrogen bomb exploding!

Then you earlier vomited this:

"* Makes ZERO difference to me...WHO or WHY anyone (including YOU) elect to participate in the Human Experiment...
* However I do NOTICE, BY YOUR own words, post responses, YOU are pleased with YOUR participation in this current Human Experiment.
* YOU have neither, Protection from getting the current preached life threatening virus, YOU have neither, Prevention from Transmitting the current preached life threatening virus.
* YOU have solace and peace of mind, that “IF” you DO contract this current preached life threatening virus, YOU will “NOT SUFFER” the “Discomfort”...”AS MUCH”, as a person, WHO elected to NOT participate in the “Human Experiment”.
* YOU also reveal:
YOU have not done your homework...virtually IGNORED, are ignorant of WHAT, the (positioned, power, wealthy) “OF” the world meet, discussed, planned, proposed, colluded, unveiled, UPON the people at large of the whole world.
* YOU also reveal:
YOU place YOUR NEGATIVE accusations, directly TOWARD, people WHOSE ELECTIONS, DIFFER from “your elections”."

You intentionally lied and bore false witness for I have explicitly said I have not the tiniest problem with anyone who wishes not to get the shot!

Then your not subtle mockery that I won't suffer much. Well you are right, I did my study and research and listened to the crazed supossed believers who preached against he virus and their twisting of SCripture. I also listened to over a dozen doctors speak againsat teh shot and I found not one of them is involved in the fields of virology, immunology, microbiology, cellular studies, and the fields that would actually be able to give coherent answers as tot eh right or wrong of your statements.

Don't misrepresent me again, the doctors on you tube and TV are very very smart people! but I would not take th eadvice of the best podiatristin the world as to what I should do about the inner workings of my heart!

Sorry, but I do not accept your feigned innocence! I have called you out and see no reason to recant.

teh shot has worked as advertised. I know the risks and potential problems and have seen the risks of what could happen if I didn't take th eshot, taking the shot worked for me and hundreds of millions of others.

If others do not wish to take th eshot, I am willing to defend their decision. but to make it a "sp[iritual thing" as you did in you rown words, or use half or tenth truth conspiracy theories and make you self seem superior fornot taking a shot- sorry I will call nayone on it every day who calls HImself a brother- because you are wrong .

 

[Cristo Rei]

Let me ask you this, do you feel this way about every single medication? Or just the covid shot.

And if you have bothered to read my post I was and still am not in favor of "FORCING" the jab on anyone. Medically speaking as in comparison to other meds- it is safe and effective like other meds.

There are alot of adverse reactions- there are lots of people with covid and lots of people who have been vaccinated globally and nationally.

Based on the VAERS site itself, I showed you the 5 of people with adverse effects versus total shots administered. It falls in the level of more safer medications requiring approval. It is not a ssafe as tylenol or aspirin or scores of other prescription meds, but it safer than lots and lots and lots of meds, especially meds used to treat virulent diseases as the novel covid19 virus is now proven to be.

800,000+ deaths in teh US and over 5,400,000 deaths world wide makes it a virulent disease.

And just remember that the deaths reported to taking the shot have not been proven by autopsy. The count of verified deaths is less than 25.

So according to your feelings of the covid shot and one death is too may, should we suspend all medications that have on edeath attributed to them?

You shifted your argument from denial of vaccine injury to the justification of vaccine injury...

All medications have possible adverse reactions... They are to be conveyed to the patient for them to make a decision. It's called informed consent...

What we have instead is the forced coercion of these vaccines, the false claim of it being "safe" and the discrimination of people who don't want to take them. This is unethical, immoral, unlawful and criminal.

 

[Cristo Rei]

You know society has lost its morals when it denies, justifies and normalises human sacrifice in the name of covid.
When it chooses censorship over free speech
When it turns a blind eye to forced needles and discrimination

 

[Taken]

Well I don't feel spiritually inferior by any stretch of the imagination so that is moot.

All your whining and accusations for naught...

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You shifted your argument from denial of vaccine injury to the justification of vaccine injury...

All medications have possible adverse reactions... They are to be conveyed to the patient for them to make a decision. It's called informed consent...

What we have instead is the forced coercion of these vaccines, the false claim of it being "safe" and the discrimination of people who don't want to take them. This is unethical, immoral, unlawful and criminal.

I am not denying, shifting or justifying- I am asking you a question.

Based on one death from teh covid shot being too many, do you think we should ban every medication that h as caused one death or more?

I knew the risks of taking the covid shot before I took it. It was widely advertised on TV. "Safe" from a medical perspective is that the medication will do far more good than harm on a societal basis. Based on your criteria of one death being too many- no medication is safe.

Well forced coercion is a totally different topic than the efficay and or harm of th ecovid shot. Trying to make the two one topic is unethical. there is the medication and then there is how the medication is distributed . I agree forced coercion is wrong for nearly every med. but as a society we force kids to take MMR, Polio, TDAP shots, what is the difference?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

All your whining and accusations for naught...

Wow disagreeing with taken is judged whining. OK I get it

 

[Wrangler]

Yes it technically is not a vaccine, but a simple medication administered by injection and it (DOESN'T)works as it was advertised to work

I suppose this glosses over the entire debate.

1. It's not a vaccine (You got that part right)
2. It does NOT work.

Recently, Fauci admitted hospital bed levels are rising with vaccinated patients. The rationalizing from people like you that such facts constitute 'working' is stunning.

Not sure where you get the idea that it is a simple medication or why you suppose adding 'administered by injection' adds any credibility to it. If it were on the up and up:

1. The contents would be public knowledge.
2. The data upon which approval was granted would be immediately released - not wait 75 years until we are all dead.
3. The public would be able to sue over adverse affects.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It does NOT work.

I await your rebuttal to all announced effectiveness. Especially now that they can show the levels of illness occuring betwen teh "vaxxed" and "unvaxxed"

• The contents would be public knowledge.

• The data upon which approval was granted would be immediately released - not wait 75 years until we are all dead.

• The public would be able to sue over adverse affects.

1.Many meds do not have all the contents available to the public yet.
2. this I cannot answer to. I do not know if the 17 years of patent protection allows companies to keep certain ingredients proprietary until the patent runs out.

3. Teh drug companies were protected from law suits, for the simple fact teh government cut through the tape that usually makes a med unavailable until 8-10 years and multiple levels of testing to see how adverse reactions may be and then go back and rework the formulas. These shots went from paper to arms in less than a year and human trials were limited to just tens of thousands and no mid- to longer term testing done. Society could have waited the 8-10 years for the shots to get to market and let the legal system have full chance at the companies or the government could protect them for they gave them approval to break the normal process to get the medication to market ASAP. We have 800,000 deaths 22 months after teh first death reported, would you prefer to wait88 more months and potentially a total of 4,00,000 deaths before we try something?

And before you go on about the other meds available, to go off label normally takes 3-4 years of trials and testing.