US supreme court strikes blow against LGBTQ+ rights with Colorado ruling

[TinMan]

Blue Lives Matter is not a racial slur. Especially when you’re just sitting there trying to study
And I bet you just made that up anyway.

Blue Lives & the Permanence of Racism

 

[RLT63]

Blue Lives & the Permanence of Racism

The link doesn’t work but if this is some left wing screed explaining why Blue Lives Matter is racist spare me

 

[Josho]

Teh courts have consistently ruled that the right to assemble is the right to associate


the web designer makes web pages for weddings. EXCEPT for on class of people.



Is it discrimination when a web designer who makes wedding websites, refuses to provide the same service to a black couple citing deeply held religious conviction?

Race and sexuality are completely different things and I am someone that is multiracial myself. In this case the Christian website designer does not want to design something he or she does not endorse, another example could be someone wants to use an inappropiate word on their site such as a swear word or something crude, the designer has every right to say no, I don't use inappropriate language in my work.

If it was a website for African style weddings, and the website designer declined, then yeah maybe the customer could claim that is racism and discrimination as it does not go against Biblical values and beliefs, that is a completely different sitatuation.

You won't like this post, but perhaps learn what different religions do and do not endorse, find out the roots of their values of why they do and do not endorse certain things.

As a Christian we should not be forced to endorse everything the world endorses.... As not everything the world endorses is of God, not everything the world endorses is of Christ, and if we endorse some of those ideologies that are not of God it can clash with our spirituality, not everything of this world is compatible with the Holy Spirit, for example Shamanism and Christianity cannot mix, if someone tries to mix them up in their life, then they end up in a pretty big mess... You gotta be aware of the spiritual realm.

As a charismatic Bible believing Christian I believe God designed marriage, it is not something to be taken lightly or messed around with, I believe marriage is a thing of spiritual significance and I will leave it at that.

 

[TinMan]

The link doesn’t work but if this is some left wing screed explaining why Blue Lives Matter is racist spare me

Blue lives

Actually it is from an esteemed professor of law.

 

[TinMan]

Race and sexuality are completely different things and I am someone that is multiracial myself.

Here both are minorities with a long history of oppression and discrimination with justifications for that discrimination based on religious interpretation.

Not liking the association in no way invalidates the association.

In this case the Christian website designer does not want to design something he or she does not endorse, another example could be someone wants to use an inappropiate word on their site such as a swear word or something crude, the designer has every right to say no, I don't use inappropriate language in my work.

now here you have two different things. We have a wedding web designer who offers her services to the public but wants to have the special right to discriminate and not serve members of a minority.

the comparison to swearing on a website doesn't hold up because the designer is not refusing because of who the person is but rather in objection to request to make something akin to an obscene website. She doen'st make such websites for anybody but she does make websites for couples getting married.

If it was a website for African style weddings, and the website designer declined, then yeah maybe the customer could claim that is racism and discrimination as it does not go against Biblical values and beliefs, that is a completely different sitatuation.

No it isn't.

On the one hand the designer chooses to refuse to sell an advertised services to a minority.
On the other hand the designer chooses to refuse to sell an advertised services to a minority.

You won't like this post, but perhaps learn what different religions do and do not endorse, find out the roots of their values of why they do and do not endorse certain things.

As a Christian we should not be forced to endorse everything the world endorses.... As not everything the world endorses is of God, not everything the world endorses is of Christ, and if we endorse some of those ideologies that are not of God it can clash with our spirituality, not everything of this world is compatible with the Holy Spirit, for example Shamanism and Christianity cannot mix, if someone tries to mix them up in their life, then they end up in a pretty big mess... You gotta be aware of the spiritual realm.

As a charismatic Bible believing Christian I believe God designed marriage, it is not something to be taken lightly or messed around with, I believe marriage is a thing of spiritual significance and I will leave it at that.

Just as a racist believes marriage is something only for two people of the same race. but that belief does not give a racist the right to discriminate against interracial couples.

 

[amigo de christo]

Blue Lives & the Permanence of Racism

You know what i find odd . IS how come racism is preached today as only having been the evils of the white man .
From the indians to the chinese , to africa to all over
for thousands of years the dominating RACE AND PEOPLE have ENSLAVED MEN .
Racism aint a white problem only , YET TODAY the white man seems to get the blame for all the ills of the world .
WELL , let me retract my last statement .
ANY COLOR whether white , black or etc GETS the blame IF THEY CHRSTIAIN and wont conform to the lie .

 

[TinMan]

You know what i find odd . IS how come racism is preached today as only having been the evils of the white man .

No one is saying it is exclusive

From the indians to the chinese , to africa to all over
for thousands of years the dominating RACE AND PEOPLE have ENSLAVED MEN .
Racism aint a white problem only , YET TODAY the white man seems to get the blame for all the ills of the world .

Bull

WELL , let me retract my last statement .
ANY COLOR whether white , black or etc GETS the blame IF THEY CHRSTIAIN and wont conform to the lie .

Poor victim

 

[amigo de christo]

Blue lives

Actually it is from an esteemed professor of law.

Time for a true history lesson YA WONT HEAR IN SCHOOLS .
EVERY race at one time has enslaved people . China has done it
africa has done it , to all over the world .
Indians even had white slaves . Africans even sold their own into slavery .
The problem is not in the color of ones skin . ITS IN ALL OF MANKIND .
TIME to preach JESUS CHRIST to all that has breath . THE WORLD WILL BE JUDGED for all its evils .
THERE is but one way to not perish with it . BELIEVE YE IN JESUS CHRIST . MANKIND of all races IS EVIL .
ALL have sinned , all have fallen short of the glory of GOD .

 

[amigo de christo]

No one is saying it is exclusive

Bull

Poor victim

Me aint no victim . I expect hatred and persecutions in this world .
Speaking the truth aint being a victim . SUPRESSING THE TRUTH for an agenda , NOW THAT IS EVIL as can be .
And its high time you see this whole thing for what it is .
DO you really believe they give one rip about the people . THEY DONT . THEY USE us all
They enslave peoples through a mindset they are there to do good for them .
And they use them to usher in a wicked system and agenda and all under the guise its for the good of humanity .
And they pit side against side and all the while sit back and keep making FALSE PROMISES to their slaves
of mentality that all will be well for them when once we got the new system .
AND GUESS what else they about to do . CONVINCE them its time to get rid of all who did not conform .
You are on the wrong side . TRUTH IS i dont follow either side .
ITS TIME TO PICK UP AGAIN that bible and let us learn THAT CHRIST , THAT GOD and all doctrine well .

 

[RLT63]

Blue lives

Actually it is from an esteemed professor of law.

Prejudiced nonsense. Even if you believe this stuff you still can’t call having a Blue Lives Matter sticker on your computer a racist slur and you can find material supporting your point of view no matter what it is

BLM are pushing division not unity | Wanjiru Njoya | The Critic

In London, black people constitute only 13 per cent of the population but almost half of murder victims and suspects are black, according to figures obtained by Sky News. In Africa…

thecritic.co.uk

 

[Josho]

Here both are minorities with a long history of oppression and discrimination with justifications for that discrimination based on religious interpretation.

Not liking the association in no way invalidates the association.

now here you have two different things. We have a wedding web designer who offers her services to the public but wants to have the special right to discriminate and not serve members of a minority.

the comparison to swearing on a website doesn't hold up because the designer is not refusing because of who the person is but rather in objection to request to make something akin to an obscene website. She doen'st make such websites for anybody but she does make websites for couples getting married.

No it isn't.

On the one hand the designer chooses to refuse to sell an advertised services to a minority.
On the other hand the designer chooses to refuse to sell an advertised services to a minority.

Just as a racist believes marriage is something only for two people of the same race. but that belief does not give a racist the right to discriminate against interracial couples.

So do you ever think that there are also conservative Christians from a racial minority that agree with the decision of the the webdesigner in question? What's your view on that?

 

[TinMan]

Time for a true history lesson YA WONT HEAR IN SCHOOLS .
EVERY race at one time has enslaved people . China has done it
africa has done it , to all over the world .
Indians even had white slaves . Africans even sold their own into slavery .
The problem is not in the color of ones skin . ITS IN ALL OF MANKIND .
TIME to preach JESUS CHRIST to all that has breath . THE WORLD WILL BE JUDGED for all its evils .
THERE is but one way to not perish with it . BELIEVE YE IN JESUS CHRIST . MANKIND of all races IS EVIL .
ALL have sinned , all have fallen short of the glory of GOD .

and what has that got to do with anything in this thread?

 

[TinMan]

Me aint no victim . I expect hatred and persecutions in this world .

 

[TinMan]

BLM are pushing division not unity | Wanjiru Njoya | The Critic

In London, black people constitute only 13 per cent of the population but almost half of murder victims and suspects are black, according to figures obtained by Sky News. In Africa…

thecritic.co.uk

Racist garbage

 

[TinMan]

So do you ever think that there are also conservative Christians from a racial minority that agree with the decision of the the webdesigner in question? What's your view on that?

There are women opposed to domestic violence laws.

how about addressing the points made?

 

[RLT63]

Racist garbage

Anything you disagree with is racist. It’s a lazy tactic designed to poison the well of the other person’s argument. It has been used so much it doesn’t even have meaning anymore and it dilutes real cases of racism. When everything is racist nothing is racist.

 

[amigo de christo]

Anything you disagree with is racist. It’s a lazy tactic designed to poison the well of the other person’s argument. It has been used so much it doesn’t even have meaning anymore and it dilutes real cases of racism. When everything is racist nothing is racist.

THAT IS THEIR CARD . if one dont agree label em racist . EXACTLY .

 

[amigo de christo]

IN THIS WORLD YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION . Blessed are you WHEN you are persecuted .
MANY are the afflictions of the righteous .
So i would not laugh to much my liberal friend .

 

[RLT63]

IN THIS WORLD YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION . Blessed are you WHEN you are persecuted .
MANY are the afflictions of the righteous .
So i would not laugh to much my liberal friend .

I think it was @Wrangler who said a liberal is a person who thinks it’s possible to pick up the clean end of a turd.

 

[TinMan]

Anything you disagree with is racist.

not true. Your linked article however is racist.

It’s a lazy tactic designed to poison the well of the other person’s argument.

You mean like putting up the fake claim "Anything you disagree with is racist"?

It has been used so much it doesn’t even have meaning anymore and it dilutes real cases of racism. When everything is racist nothing is racist.

Everything isn't racist, but you already know that